this thread is obviously in the wrong section. Some of the speculations might be interesting but utimately pointless due to unreliable sources.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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the 3 Days 'Darkness' is NOT what most think it is. Primarily has to do with MEMORY/whats programmed in your subconscious
WW3 is also NOT what most think it is as it'll noly last 3 days. When this "war" comes during this 72hr cosmic darkness it isn't gonna b televised or fought with physical weapons. Its goin to b fought in your mind & in this cosmic event 12/16/13 sunset we all goin to have an "out of body experience" in the 4th dimension & most ppl gonna b fucked up & "lose their mind". & after that moment you either gonna "wake up" trapped in their new 3D world goin thru all this bullshit or break your ass free. OPEN YOUR EYES!! its happening all around us too, cuz the atmosphere been collapsing.. the clouds r wayyy lower than they used to be. Those ppl that b stocking up on stuff r the 1's planning to go thru the "new 3D world" cuz its self-fulfilling.. see how they either got ppl's minds in the future or in the past thinkin the so called event already passed?? & not in the moment!! What I mean by this 3D material reality bout to collapse is exactly that, the entire reality we currently "see".. do u notice the atmosphere caving in/collapsing.. just look @ them freakin clouds coming down!! This entire 3D reality/dream we "see" is No-thing but an illusion, so the more u think u "see", the easier it'll b to trick you. The reason the clouds look much more 'detailed' is cuz the sky is literally falling down over us B-cuz we are rising in frequency to when this december this material 3D reality collapses & b in the other world that's been all around us we couldn't see with our physical eyes
the 3 Days 'Darkness' is NOT what most think it is. Primarily has to do with MEMORY/whats programmed in your subconscious
WW3 is also NOT what most think it is as it'll noly last 3 days. When this "war" comes during this 72hr cosmic darkness it isn't gonna b televised or fought with physical weapons. Its goin to b fought in your mind & in this cosmic event 12/16/13 sunset we all goin to have an "out of body experience" in the 4th dimension & most ppl gonna b fucked up & "lose their mind". & after that moment you either gonna "wake up" trapped in their new 3D world goin thru all this bullshit or break your ass free. OPEN YOUR EYES!! its happening all around us too, cuz the atmosphere been collapsing.. the clouds r wayyy lower than they used to be. Those ppl that b stocking up on stuff r the 1's planning to go thru the "new 3D world" cuz its self-fulfilling.. see how they either got ppl's minds in the future or in the past thinkin the so called event already passed?? & not in the moment!! What I mean by this 3D material reality bout to collapse is exactly that, the entire reality we currently "see".. do u notice the atmosphere caving in/collapsing.. just look @ them freakin clouds coming down!! This entire 3D reality/dream we "see" is No-thing but an illusion, so the more u think u "see", the easier it'll b to trick you. The reason the clouds look much more 'detailed' is cuz the sky is literally falling down over us B-cuz we are rising in frequency to when this december this material 3D reality collapses & b in the other world that's been all around us we couldn't see with our physical eyes
the 3 Days 'Darkness' is NOT what most think it is. Primarily has to do with MEMORY/whats programmed in your subconscious
WW3 is also NOT what most think it is as it'll noly last 3 days. When this "war" comes during this 72hr cosmic darkness it isn't gonna b televised or fought with physical weapons. Its goin to b fought in your mind & in this cosmic event 12/16/13 sunset we all goin to have an "out of body experience" in the 4th dimension & most ppl gonna b fucked up & "lose their mind". & after that moment you either gonna "wake up" trapped in their new 3D world goin thru all this bullshit or break your ass free. OPEN YOUR EYES!! its happening all around us too, cuz the atmosphere been collapsing.. the clouds r wayyy lower than they used to be. Those ppl that b stocking up on stuff r the 1's planning to go thru the "new 3D world" cuz its self-fulfilling.. see how they either got ppl's minds in the future or in the past thinkin the so called event already passed?? & not in the moment!! What I mean by this 3D material reality bout to collapse is exactly that, the entire reality we currently "see".. do u notice the atmosphere caving in/collapsing.. just look @ them freakin clouds coming down!! This entire 3D reality/dream we "see" is No-thing but an illusion, so the more u think u "see", the easier it'll b to trick you. The reason the clouds look much more 'detailed' is cuz the sky is literally falling down over us B-cuz we are rising in frequency to when this december this material 3D reality collapses & b in the other world that's been all around us we couldn't see with our physical eyes
Who would had guessed Waldo would protect the mass media
Comeon Waldo, what mass media is "trust worthy" then, please do elaborate.
And props to you to reading only half my posts (as usual ), because i did already elaborate on taking infowars as example and how i do think that most of his stuff is just loud mouthed nonsense that makes him look bad. But such stuff you don't read, you only read between the lines to such extent that only suits you.
Typical from someone that would protect the mass media that does this all the time
How about you go away from here, because just as much as you can say that there ain't, you can't proof that either. And especially with the gov keeping so much secrets about things, do you really think it's THAT surprising that people are starting to doubt things are are looking for their own answers?!
But whatever, your next post will prolly be how secrecy is needed and blablabla
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So maybe it's speculation. So what. Nothing in there would actually surprise me.
Like a "mid air collision" of 2 jets couldn't possibly be a cover up.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But to me, it seems just as unlikely, that 2 f-16 collided lol. I mean .. come on. But maybe they did.
And yeah, there are a lot of , lets call them .. dubious ... , sources, which aren't really news but blogs. Yes, that's true.
But if you had actually read the topic, i didn't actually specify anything in specific.
We could add to this topic, how the US has no gold reserves left. How they are behind international payments, notably to china, and how several billions are "missing".
To dismiss the topic all together, would be simply ignorant of the actual situation.
The USA IS on the brink of chaos and there is no doubt about that.
Who would had guessed Waldo would protect the mass media
Comeon Waldo, what mass media is "trust worthy" then, please do elaborate.
And props to you to reading only half my posts (as usual ), because i did already elaborate on taking infowars as example and how i do think that most of his stuff is just loud mouthed nonsense that makes him look bad. But such stuff you don't read, you only read between the lines to such extent that only suits you.
Typical from someone that would protect the mass media that does this all the time
How about you go away from here, because just as much as you can say that there ain't, you can't proof that either. And especially with the gov keeping so much secrets about things, do you really think it's THAT surprising that people are starting to doubt things are are looking for their own answers?!
But whatever, your next post will prolly be how secrecy is needed and blablabla
Thanks for the not posting the entire speech.
He is clearly talking about communism as much as people like you want to believe he isn't.
So maybe it's speculation. So what. Nothing in there would actually surprise me.
Like a "mid air collision" of 2 jets couldn't possibly be a cover up.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But to me, it seems just as unlikely, that 2 f-16 collided lol. I mean .. come on. But maybe they did.
And yeah, there are a lot of , lets call them .. dubious ... , sources, which aren't really news but blogs. Yes, that's true.
But if you had actually read the topic, i didn't actually specify anything in specific.
We could add to this topic, how the US has no gold reserves left. How they are behind international payments, notably to china, and how several billions are "missing".
To dismiss the topic all together, would be simply ignorant of the actual situation.
The USA IS on the brink of chaos and there is no doubt about that.
But keep nitpicking on the little things.
Note what has been bolded. Why in fucks name did you post this under 'World News'.
Further, you're a fool. Accidents in training and with jets happen all the fucking time in the military.
But Sin, that's normal.
They all do nitpicking on the little things in the hoop to make us look less creditable for the bigger things, so that others don't look at those things anymore.
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Yeah but that's not the point.
How do we know that what's written down there is the truth?
Especially coming from a military department that is known for their secrecy around things.
It's their own fault for people to start doubting stories they put out, a backfire from all the secrecy going on.
Proud member of Frustrated Association of International Losers Failing Against the Gifted and Superior (F.A.I.L.F.A.G.S)
Yeah but that's not the point.
How do we know that what's written down there is the truth?
Especially coming from a military department that is known for their secrecy around things.
It's their own fault for people to start doubting stories they put out, a backfire from all the secrecy going on.
If the military is the one performing the coup against Obama why would they send two F-16's that then got 'shot down' (Even though both pilots survived, and one F-16 was able to safely land) and then release a news story on their own website about how it was a mishap and them not trying to gain control of the government?
its a healthy thing to doubt gouvernments especially the US one.
But if you gonna call them out on everything with nothing to back it up yourself then people will discredit you and not believe anything you say beyond the particular subject.
I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
But if you had actually read the topic, i didn't actually specify anything in specific.
We could add to this topic, how the US has no gold reserves left. How they are behind international payments, notably to china, and how several billions are "missing".
To dismiss the topic all together, would be simply ignorant of the actual situation.
The USA IS on the brink of chaos and there is no doubt about that.
But keep nitpicking on the little things.
So it's a topic open for general discussion?
I am willing to discuss (or simply read) anything, but I am quite allergic to certain "sources" and their interpretation of reality. Not because I would not agree with them ideologically, but because they shit on all the scientific tools of historical research and take short cuts through information and interpretation to fit their agenda. What they ultimately produce is ridiculing all well-founded criticism on the system and establishement, and are therefor counter-productive to the cause they seem to fight for.
Opening such a discussion about the demise of the US empire with such a set of "sources" will suffocate any serious debate in its very roots.
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Paintface wrote:
its a healthy thing to doubt gouvernments especially the US one.
But if you gonna call them out on everything with nothing to back it up yourself then people will discredit you and not believe anything you say beyond the particular subject.
exactly.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
With that i agree, but you have to agree that it's kinda hard to get hard facts without having access to everything when it involves secrecy.
But the 2 F16 part could be ofc totally off and i'm not saying that it happened. Nor does the whole story that was posted.
Tho there COULD be the possibility that a big part of the army is in disagreement with what's going on, with the bullshit they are doing these days. No doubt that many are questioning their orders and eventually might take actions against it.
Hence why whistleblowers are coming out more often these days.
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btw gary webb "killed himself" by writing a good bye letter on a type machine ( common thing with murder suicides ) and then shooting himself in the head.... twice....
Yeah but that's not the point.
How do we know that what's written down there is the truth?
Especially coming from a military department that is known for their secrecy around things.
It's their own fault for people to start doubting stories they put out, a backfire from all the secrecy going on.
If the military is the one performing the coup against Obama why would they send two F-16's that then got 'shot down' (Even though both pilots survived, and one F-16 was able to safely land) and then release a news story on their own website about how it was a mishap and them not trying to gain control of the government?
You don't think about what you are even saying.
Because this a lot less complicated:
Find 2 pilots that are willing..then Scramble 2 jets, get them in the air under radar, hope they aren't detected on the way there, blow the white house up, with witnesses that surely would see they are our own planes.
Than say:
Find someone thats willing in the whitehouse, secret service or such, and just shoot him with no public witnesses.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
btw gary webb "killed himself" by writing a good bye letter on a type machine ( common thing with murder suicides ) and then shooting himself in the head.... twice....
this is quite common nowadays
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