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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 13:34 Post subject: |
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Is it 3 from the 2-6 system? Why they still use that retarded system anyway? 
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Umn that chick that dissapeared.. we weren't even friends. I only saw her once.. and the fact that the chain ligature marks on her body match the chains I use at home is pure coincidence.. and she is totally not my type.. 
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Neon
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 14:12 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Is it 3 from the 2-6 system? Why they still use that retarded system anyway? |
It's 2-5 on universities, but if you get a 2 you don't pass. |
Still a retarded system. |
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Neon
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 14:18 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | | LeoNatan wrote: | | Neon wrote: |
It's 2-5 on universities, but if you get a 2 you don't pass. |
Still a retarded system. |
Eh, it's ok. Why is it retarded in your opinion? |
How exactly 2 signifies a failure in your opinion exactly while 5 a complete success? What is 1, cheating? |
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Neon
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 14:29 Post subject: |
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Technically scale is from 1-5, but 1 is faliure and 2 is 'enough', so it's not retarded at all 
And Congratz Neona 
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Neon
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Not really, when you fail an exam you still get a 2 written in your index.
A "1" grade does not exist in Polish universities.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 14:43 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | 2- 0-59 %
3- 60-74%
4- 75-89%
5- 90-100% |
Sounds completely logical.  |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 14:44 Post subject: |
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BTW congrats but you know I am happy for you <3
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 15:16 Post subject: |
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0-100%
When I see the grade, I know exactly how much I answered correctly.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 15:21 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | 0-100%
When I see the grade, I know exactly how much I answered correctly. |
This. 0-100% or, at the absolute bare minimum, the standard A-F grading.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 15:22 Post subject: |
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How is A-F any better than 2-6?
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 15:24 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | How is A-F any better than 2-6? |
Because it's logical and has an actual history that is applicable. Everybody knows "A" grades and "F" etcetera.
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Just because Uhhmericans put it in enough movies, and we know what a D means, does not mean it is logical. I can see where such a system would be applicable in junior school. But they are so dumb, the have no idea what 67% means even when they are grown ups.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 16:21 Post subject: |
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It's 1-5 at german universities, with 1 being the best and 5 meaning you failed. At school it was 1-6, and if you had 2 5s or one 6 by the end of the year you did not pass.
I know what Leo is getting at though, in all the technical fields there are hard numbers behind it anyways, which could easily be translated into percentages. However, I don't think it's easily applicable to essays... or art for that matter.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 16:29 Post subject: |
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| Neon wrote: | Not really, when you fail an exam you still get a 2 written in your index.
A "1" grade does not exist in Polish universities. |
Ok, that's stupid xD If you fail, why is that written in your index 
Here in Cro 1-5 system stems from middle and high school. If you have 1 you need to correct it, otherwise you'll fail.
In uni, if you don't get 2 (minimum), you failed, and you need to either take that exam again, or retake the course (then it will be in your index that you need to retake that course, with a signature from professor).
The grading is usually sth like this:
0-50% =1 (fail)
51-60% =2
61-75% =3
76-90%=4
91-100%=5
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 16:59 Post subject: |
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so.... you barely passed 
I remember the 1 - 6 system when I still lived in communist Poland 
lol. If you get a 1... you get beat.
if you get a 4 you get beat.
you get a 6 you get a yay.
I remember those days greatly 
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 17:35 Post subject: |
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back in the old days at my uni we had the dumbest system ever.
They grade exams on 20.
>10 is a pass, but conditional. 12 or more is a full pass. I you have 1 exam <10, all the conditional passes became fails. This had the wonderful effect that you could have 5 11s in the first semester, kinda exciting. Then 4 11s in the second semester and 1 9 and you had to retake them all... But imagine your 9 was a 10, you had to retake nothing. Make sense, doesn't it?
To blend in some extra retardness and uncertainty, they did not give points after the first semester. They would report ABCD scores. A being 13 or more (loool, so different cut off than the conditional/full passing), B: 10,11, 12, C: 7,8,9; D: below 7. So this meant you could go to the big sheet with points after the first semester and you could see 5Bs, but you did not know you have full passes or conditional passes. Second semester could be really exciting, because you did not know whether you were fighting to convert your conditional passes to full passes or you already had full passes. And only after the second semester you would get the number marks on a sheet of paper.
Luckily, the university knew the system was retarded and after 2 or 3 years changed it to >10 you pass, get rid of the conditional shit system and report number points after each semester.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 17:41 Post subject: |
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| Xenthalon wrote: | It's 1-5 at german universities, with 1 being the best and 5 meaning you failed. At school it was 1-6, and if you had 2 5s or one 6 by the end of the year you did not pass.
I know what Leo is getting at though, in all the technical fields there are hard numbers behind it anyways, which could easily be translated into percentages. However, I don't think it's easily applicable to essays... or art for that matter. |
yeah, i agree. But you need some numbers to differentiate in *some* objective manner. When you have 1000 students and you want to give 5 scholarships or a prize or just pick the best student, you need more than an ABCD scale. I guess a lot of students will have 10As. How to pick the best one? How to calculate aggregate scores? How to calculate averages?
Let's be honest, the ABCD system is invented for profs to be lazy. Read half the paper or exam and it looks more than decent, just put the A stamp on it. It is ok, put a B on it. It looks totally crappy, give an F. But if you have to grade between 0 and 100% or between 1 and 20, it becomes more difficult. You actually have to read the whole exam or paper
I mean, I am sitting in commitees for master thesis defenses. And it is really difficult to come up with a number. Who gets a 11/20? Who gets a 16/20 or a 15 or a 14. You can evaluate so many parameters. You could get lazy and just revert back to the 'bad, good, super good' system. But that's not how it goes, students deserve better than some lazy arbitrary value. We evaluate 10 parameters or so (effort, individual contribution, the look of the thesis manuscript, scientific accuracy, typos, referencing, presentation etc etc) on a very bad, poor, mediocre, good, perfect scale. Then there is a weighting scheme, push the individual scores in excel and you get a mark between 1 and 20. Easy and objective.
I mean, students study hard for their exams (at least, most of them...). I think they deserve a fair and accurate grading of their efforts. There's a difference between having everything correct and having a lot correct, that should be reflected in the scoring rather than having both an A.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Jun 2013 17:56 Post subject: |
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Gratz Neon!
I like the system here. Exams are scored with 0-100% while final class grade at end of semester is from A-F, and D is considered passing but it's like 2 everywhere else.
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