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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 11:29    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
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I like the voice acting so far

How?>_> It is genuinely the worst part of the game.


WOW! You mean someone has a different opinion and taste to you!? Holy shit, stop the press! grinhurt It's the worst part of the game FOR YOU, just like "furriesomgomgomghatelolz" is the worst for others. It's not the worst for me, not by a long shot, the acting is good and the voices are both cute and fitting, so yes; I like the voice acting. I like the cute little flying daemon, I like the talking sword, it's all very Ghibli, even the artwork is rather reminiscent.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 11:34    Post subject:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/236090/discussions/0/828939978584659308/
Noogy wrote:
Alright everyone, I think I may have figured out a fix for the high CPU usage issue. Would anyone be willing to beta test a private build to see if it resolves the issue for them? If so, please contact me at noogy@noogy.com.

Note that this test is ONLY for the high CPU issue, and whether it negatively affects performance. Thanks.

Noogy wrote:
So far beta test feedback has been positive, if everything goes well I'll try to issue this update sometime today.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 11:35    Post subject:
It reminds me a bit of the late 80's to mid 90's dubbed cartoons I watched as a kid, I kinda like it (Animations and style is pretty similar too in many ways.) but I also find the voice acting from the "bat" companion slightly annoying and some of the portraits don't really scale well to the higher display resolutions available even with the uncompressed image option enabled. Smile

It's a minor complaint though and doesn't really bother me that much.
(Dubbed cartoons - including anime - for children is still popular here and the voice acting for that continues to be pretty poor.)

(As a side note the cartoons were more interesting and less restricted when I was younger.)
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 12:05    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Kein wrote:
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I like the voice acting so far

How?>_> It is genuinely the worst part of the game.


WOW! You mean someone has a different opinion and taste to you!? Holy shit, stop the press! grinhurt It's the worst part of the game FOR YOU, just like "furriesomgomgomghatelolz" is the worst for others. It's not the worst for me, not by a long shot, the acting is good and the voices are both cute and fitting, so yes; I like the voice acting. I like the cute little flying daemon, I like the talking sword, it's all very Ghibli, even the artwork is rather reminiscent.


Way to overreact, haha. If you did read most of the reviews, both critics and users, you did notice many of them agree that voiceacting "could be better". The choice of voices is good - Fidget has thin, squeaky, cute voice, Dust has a voice of young man ~17-18 y.o. who is ready for adventures and full of energy, the Sword has deep ethereal voice of someone who lived thousands years and possesses great experience and wisdom and patience, but the acting itself... it makes the impression that actors try WAY too hard to fit the role when they don't need to, they already fit the character, just do it naturally, damn! Especially Fidget and Dust. Sword is fairly bearable, although the voice of the same actor narrating opening was really dull and blunt.

That is pretty much the only issue I have with this game. It makes me cringe sometimes during cutscenes >_>

prudislav wrote:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/236090/discussions/0/828939978584659308/
Noogy wrote:
Alright everyone, I think I may have figured out a fix for the high CPU usage issue. Would anyone be willing to beta test a private build to see if it resolves the issue for them? If so, please contact me at noogy@noogy.com.

Note that this test is ONLY for the high CPU issue, and whether it negatively affects performance. Thanks.

Noogy wrote:
So far beta test feedback has been positive, if everything goes well I'll try to issue this update sometime today.


Yeah, I've been testing it for last hour and it seems like it just now uses one core, but still overloads it for 100%.
I guess that will do for now.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 12:08    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
If you did read most of the review, both critics and users, you did notice many of them agree that voiceacting could be better.


Ah, so because other people believe something one way that makes it fact? I guess God does exist then! I like the voice acting. Stop trying to convince me that I'm wrong just because "others" disagree.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 12:13    Post subject:
This is a very nice surprise. Art and animations are brilliant and the gameplay is fluid and functional. I also like the voice acting. Fits the game very well IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 12:19    Post subject:
Umm... did you even read my post? I even explained why did *I* dislike it. The part with other options was to give understanding it is not just me think this way and many people share the same opinion (and there is new threads on steam forums with the same opinions as feedbak as well even now).

I have no clue where did you get the idea that I'm trying to "convince you that you are wrong just because "others" disagree." (w-what), I just asked a simple question why do you like VA that even didn't require an answer and mostly was rhetorical.
If this topic is so sensitive to you I'm sorry, lets just pretend it never happened and move on >_>


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 12:20    Post subject:
I explained why I like the voices. You countered with "If you did read most of the reviews, both critics and users, you did notice many of them agree that voiceacting "could be better"." Which is an ill-disguised "I'm right, see? others agree with me" Why else would you pull that card if not to try and convince me that I'm "wrong" for liking something everyone else dislikes? You're not "right" when it comes to someone else tastes. End of discussion.

Christ, even now you're still trying too hard. "There are threads all over Steam with the same opinions" -- who cares? Why tell me? I don't care. I don't care if six million people don't like the VA; I *do* like it. That's it. No fight, no argument, just personal preference and taste and opinion.

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I'm starting to agree Sad
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 12:30    Post subject:
Man, you keep putting strawman and ad hominem arguments all over.
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Which is an ill-disguised "I'm right, see? others agree with me"

But I never said that, why are you making things up :< I told I'm sorry, I understand you like the game and take to the heart any critique or feedback/elaborated opinion, but there is no reason to overreact, it just a game and not even the greatest one.

Geez man, that was cheap and angry.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 12:32    Post subject:
Now who's dropping strawman arguments? All I said was that I like the voices and I don't care if you do or don't, suddenly this means I dislike all criticism and take it to heart? No, I'm simply talking about my taste after being questioned on it by you. I have nothing vested in this game and I don't care if someone critiques/dislikes any part of it (well, the "hate it because furries" thing gets my hackles up, admittedly) -- you're the one that wouldn't accept my opinion, not vice-versa.

I like the voice acting. You don't. That should be the end of it, you don't see me throwing up sources to other opinions supporting my like of the VA, do you? Because, to be completely honest, that's just rude. There are plenty of people that share your tastes and plenty of others that share mine, it's not right to use them as bargaining chips.

JBeckman wrote:
some of the portraits don't really scale well to the higher display resolutions available even with the uncompressed image option enabled. Smile


Now that you mention it, I've noticed that too. Even with "High" portraits enabled, they can be rather indistinct and jagged sometimes. I'm thinking they're either like that due to 720p on XBLA, or perhaps the option isn't working? I'll run some comparisons and see.

~edit~

Nope, there's a definitely drop in quality when switching from High to Normal. I guess it is working as intended - just not all that superawesome on higher resolutions.

~edit~

THAT'S why the soundtrack is so freakin' good in this --- it's Alexander Brandon! Shocked Man, the entire game was programmed and developed solely by Dean Dodrill, then it was scored by Alexander Brandon. So much So Much Win
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 20:36    Post subject:
Patch Notes (1.02)
Hello everyone, version 1.02 is live. While I'm looking at a number of issues to fix for 1.03, I wanted to get the CPU usage issue resolved asap, so this is a small update.

Dust: An Elysian Tail 1.02 Patch Notes
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-Resolved Unusually High CPU Usage During General Gameplay
-Locked Mouse Cursor to Window at Full Screen
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 21:55    Post subject:
i was wondering if there could be a way to export portraits and stuff from the game...there's these XNB files..

The thing is,i already tried XNB Exporter,placing it at the folder where the xnb files are at...but no matter if i write the filename WITHOUT THE XNB or leaving it blank (for converting all to PNG)..the program instantly CRASHES without a result

I've heard it was designed for "Terraria" (What's that?)..but then i tought "Maybe it works for Dust!"..guess i was wrong

is there any way to extract sprites and portraits?


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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 22:42    Post subject:
CPU sage with patch:



Spikes - load screens.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 22:49    Post subject:
Much better! I've just been using the launcher and setting to 3 cores rather than 4, still 100%s the 3 cores it's on, but at least it's not the whole chip.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 22:56    Post subject:
I really hope this patch fixes my issue too. Otherwise I'm not going to be able to play this. Sad And I feel like it is the kind of game like Bastion and Mark of the Ninja for me, meaning it could actually be my GOTY. Although, there's Transistor coming out too... or is that just next year?!
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 23:38    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
I really hope this patch fixes my issue too. Otherwise I'm not going to be able to play this. Sad And I feel like it is the kind of game like Bastion and Mark of the Ninja for me, meaning it could actually be my GOTY. Although, there's Transistor coming out too... or is that just next year?!


It is like bastion, nice 2d graphics and a refreshing feel/visual style and story telling.
Gameplay is very basic though, an action rpg without lots of depth, also like bastion.
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PostPosted: Mon, 27th May 2013 23:47    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
I really hope this patch fixes my issue too. Otherwise I'm not going to be able to play this. Sad And I feel like it is the kind of game like Bastion and Mark of the Ninja for me, meaning it could actually be my GOTY. Although, there's Transistor coming out too... or is that just next year?!


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PostPosted: Tue, 28th May 2013 00:27    Post subject:
For some reason in some areas it still goes up to 100%. I figured it is probably related to some GFX affects or special animations.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2013 11:02    Post subject:
Dust: An Elysian Tail 1.03 Patch Notes

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-Resolved issue where player is unable to unlock chests and cages
-Resolved issue of quest icon not appearing over quest givers
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2013 11:30    Post subject:
I agree that voice acting in this game is pretty bad (especially the one of that flying squirrel). Had to skip dialogues because of that. The characters in general were pretty lame and targeted for 5 year olds (yup, especially the mentioned above squirrel) but other than the game was quite alright.
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2013 13:09    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
Dust: An Elysian Tail 1.03 Patch Notes

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-Resolved issue where player is unable to unlock chests and cages
-Resolved issue of quest icon not appearing over quest givers


I haven't had any of those issues yet, but nonetheless; let's hope the patch gets released Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 29th May 2013 14:50    Post subject:
donka wrote:
I agree that voice acting in this game is pretty bad (especially the one of that flying squirrel). Had to skip dialogues because of that. The characters in general were pretty lame and targeted for 5 year olds (yup, especially the mentioned above squirrel) but other than the game was quite alright.

Yeah, writing and voiceacting is the only issues of this game so far. All technical issues pretty much fixed.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2013 02:42    Post subject:
I finally managed to play it for an hour, and surprisingly I quite like it despite my aversion to anime-like games. Razz

It's mainly because of the visuals and animations, which are superb (but the music is great as well). Gameplay-wise it's a mixed bag for me since I'm not a fan of the fast jap combat but the various quests and relatively vaste world are keeping my interest alive. I found the style quite different from Bastion though, more fairy-like..and furry Cool Face Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2013 06:25    Post subject:
3DMGAME-Dust.An.Elysian.Tail.v1.03.Update.Cracked-3DM
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2013 12:45    Post subject:
7thunders wrote:
3DMGAME-Dust.An.Elysian.Tail.v1.03.Update.Cracked-3DM

Well, I tried this and the stuttering is still there. Oh well, I guess I won't be playing this anytime soon. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2013 16:01    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
7thunders wrote:
3DMGAME-Dust.An.Elysian.Tail.v1.03.Update.Cracked-3DM

Well, I tried this and the stuttering is still there. Oh well, I guess I won't be playing this anytime soon. Sad


Are you sure it's something to do with the game? People have been setting it to run on a single core in order to deal with the strange CPU usage and they had no problems getting it to run. I've been running with 3 cores but I do also have some strange framerate bug that, sometimes, after opening the inventory, drops from 60 to 30 until you change scene. I think it's related to multitasking though.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2013 16:32    Post subject:
No idea, that's the thing. I have no clue as to why it does that and if it even is just the game's fault or something else. Setting the affinity to just 1 core does nothing for me. Changing the settings does nothing as well. Now I'm noticing stuttering even when walking around, but in battles it gets so bad that it's kind of a slideshow.

Edit: I fired up Fraps and the framerate seems to go from 53-55 to 46-48 ever 2-3 seconds, even in the menu. That's why it stutters I guess. Bigger fps drops seem to be present, but not very often.
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2013 16:40    Post subject:
I wish I knew what to suggest, but sadly I just don't Sad If you've tried turning down/off settings, adjusting core affinity, and nothing happens? I don't know. If you want a game that is VERY similar to this, and obviously the absolute inspiration for Dust, you can just grab PCSX2 and Odin Sphere or Dolphin and Muramasa. If your chip isn't broken or malfunctioning, then those will work just fine - they did on my old E7200 at 3.6Ghz. 100% speed at all times, even with 2x-3x IntRes.


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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2013 16:45    Post subject:
Cool, I'll check them out some day! I wanted this one now though. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 30th May 2013 16:48    Post subject:
Post on the official forum? (not Steam one, since, well, people can see you don't have the game Razz) and see if anyone else with an e6 series chip has issues? Have you also made sure to disable EVERY option? Lower everything, even resolution, just to rule out as much as possible.
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