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They'd create a genuine survival horror game?  
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 15:25 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | It has too much combat and too little of anything else. It has a very bad script but the game designers treat it as brilliant. |
What you mean, she is a fragile woman that under extraordinary circumstances becomes rambo in 10 minutes. That's brilliant. And bad ass.
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GREAT summary of the new series
''A fragile woman that under extraordinary circumstances becomes Rambo in 10 minutes'' |
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 15:44 Post subject: |
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| Vikerness wrote: | | Breezer_ wrote: | | If there would be 1000 russian untrained "soldiers" trying to rape you, what you would do? Explore some caves and do puzzles? |
Omfg this reminds me of my discussions about chinese fighting movies with my friend.. dude how does 1 guy kill 100, walks on water and catches arrows with his hand ???? Thats bullshit !!
Welll geeenniiuusss its aaa mmooovviiieeee !!!!11 |
Because of idiotic "reasoning" like this that the entertainment industry, gaming included, is in the state it currently is.  |
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 15:59 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:05 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:10 Post subject: |
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I don't think anyone has wondered how the marine in Doom killed 10000000s of enemies singlehandedly. 
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:14 Post subject: |
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Must be because she's a woman!
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:16 Post subject: |
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Exactly. If Serious Sam was marketed as a fragile dude that had never fired a weapon before and was dropped into danger, people would question the realism. If they want Lara to kill hundreds of soldiers, don't market her as a fragile, innocent girl. Same goes with the chinese fighting movies: as long as they don't market realism as part of the movie, nobody cares about the impossible odds.
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:20 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Vikerness wrote: | | Breezer_ wrote: | | If there would be 1000 russian untrained "soldiers" trying to rape you, what you would do? Explore some caves and do puzzles? |
Omfg this reminds me of my discussions about chinese fighting movies with my friend.. dude how does 1 guy kill 100, walks on water and catches arrows with his hand ???? Thats bullshit !!
Welll geeenniiuusss its aaa mmooovviiieeee !!!!11 |
Because of idiotic "reasoning" like this that the entertainment industry, gaming included, is in the state it currently is. |
Well games like movies, are enjoyed on so many levels - Some might play the game for the graphics like a moviegoer might see the next derpish transformer film only for the CGI. Others prefer the narrative and how it unfolds in conjunction with the rules of both cinema and games. Fact is, you can't please anyone and especially not the nichรฉ crowd in big productions as Tomb Raider.
And why roll eyes on the current state of gaming? I'm thrilled to be in this day 'n age where we actually see original ideas which can be sustained by fans contributions (Kickstarter) and their selections (Steam Greenlight). Sure, we still have a new Call of Duty coming out, sure we see EA buttfucking SimCity players and yes Bethesda is still making "derpified" Fallout titles but if there is something this industry has shown, in the last 2 years is that there are room for both the mass segmented titles and the nichรฉ titles.
EDIT: Sure, Tomb Raider marketed itself as a "survival title" and hence the realism should be a part of the title, but c'mon did you really expect that from Square Enix?
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:31 Post subject: |
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I roll my eyes, because unlike some people who say "fuck graphics" and play some 2D games, I do enjoy all aspects of games. I do think good graphics are important and enhance good games. What you basically say is "you have kickstarter so go play that low budget shit for 'gameplay'". I lament the fact that 10 years ago the "big productions" were actually targeting a much smarter and more intelligent audience. And because of bullshit like "well it's a game, duh, of course there is no story" is why we got here. It is a similar story with films. There are college flicks that attempt more interesting topics, but they are executed with such low budgets and such horrible acting and direction, that the whole thing becomes a laughable parody.
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:42 Post subject: |
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Don't forget
Stealth: if you have glowing green dots on your head, enemies see you.
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:49 Post subject: |
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And
Dating simulator: friendzoned forever. 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 16:53 Post subject: |
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Also every game would take place in present day, because we know that you cant go back in time.
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| Ceauz wrote: | | Realism is only important when a game pretends to be realistic... which this game was marketed |
Ok i stopped reading.. i missed that marketing class and damn.. i really wanted to hear how "this time around we REAAALLLLYYY REAALLY tried to x and y".. i guess that stuff was vital for me to understand the game so thats why i dont get it | LeoNatan wrote: | | And because of bullshit like "well it's a game, duh, of course there is no story" is why we got here. |
No. Its because of bullshit like "we're making an AAA game so it has to look and feel realistic". Good gfx doesnt make up for poor gameplay (Crysis 3?) and an interesting story not backed up by gameplay only gets you so far
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I would agree that this game has very good graphics and alright gameplay. Alright, in the sense, that suddenly Lara is not a mechanical robot. But this only takes the game so far. They want this story to be taken seriously. This is supposedly not a run and gun game. Their words, and one hour in, Lara turns from poor "ooh aaah ooooh aah uuuh oooh oooh" girl into Rambo with the flick of a finger. Without a coherent story, everything falls apart, regardless of how good the graphics are.
About realism, what the fuck you talking about? Is Skyrim realistic? BioShock realistic? Prince of Persia realistic? Realism is only mentioned in relation to this game because the story is supposed to take a realistic Lara and put her in some supposedly extraordinary circumstances. But how that is executed is ridiculous. Durrzer_ tried to troll by saying "she dies in 5 minutes." No. She needs to hide to survive. She needs to hunt in order to survive. She needs to traverse landscape in order to escape violent encounters. That's how I'd attempt my survival on such an island.
But no. She must go through a linear path where hardened killers who have done just that for 20 years await in one place for a poor weak Lara to arrive and start shooting them and kill them like pro while she has never shot a gun up to that point. Give me fucking break.
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 17:41 Post subject: |
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My point was that.. with that kind of judgement you can demolish any game whatsoever and i dont think this one deserves it. Yes i get that mentality where being less of a turd doesnt make it good except you're over doing it in the wrong place. I also feel a very strong urge to spam crysis forums all over the internet with my OH so important opinions about it yet its really not worth it
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 17:59 Post subject: |
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The Crysis series is one of the biggest examples that graphics don't make the game. They mediocre at best (Crysis 1) to garbage (Crysis 2). Not sure what you trying to prove, when everyone knows Crysis games are not good games.
And you should never shy away from telling your opinion.
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yes, garbage is a perfect word to describe crysis2 graphics, mr hyperboletan
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Who the fuck cares about graphics if the game is retarded? Are you people actually read why I write? Graphics are only important and enhance when the rest of the game is actually good.
And speaking of graphics, tech and shaders don't make the graphics. Art direction does. And the Crysis series have some of the most boring art direction.
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 18:08 Post subject: |
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What you mean everyone knows Crysis games are not good when they were marketed as the best games ever ?! Its my voice against what i was shamefully led to believe huh !!
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 18:15 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Yeah Crysis 3 has so bad art direction... Best looking game up to date, it looks absolutely insane sometimes (city ruins where water has flooded, or the places with tall grass). |
Too bad about, you know, all the other elements of the game
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| Posted: Fri, 19th Apr 2013 18:19 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Yeah Crysis 3 has so bad art direction... Best looking game up to date, it looks absolutely insane sometimes (city ruins where water has flooded, or the places with tall grass). |
If you like the art direction, then sure. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I can only say what I like or dislike.  |
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I got better things to do in life than to sit and count the number of the enemy Lara kills and then judge if its real or not. Or to take gaming-related insults seriously from hypocrites on this forum.
