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WaldoJ
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 Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 05:36 Post subject: what's up with the quality of those web-dl of tv shows? |
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I thought that they'd be better quality than the reg tv rips... but they're all blocky and shit... what gives?
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 07:57 Post subject: |
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Probably due to the crappy bitrate on the streams themselves?
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 10:46 Post subject: |
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all web-dls are better than hdtv for me, cant imagine it being any other way cause they came from the same master as in
the web-dl goes from masters ( uncompressed )-> web-dl ( x264 )
the hdtv goes from master --> hdtv broascast ( mpeg2 ) ---> hdtv rip ( x264 )
so thats a bad compression and another generation on the hdtv
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 11:42 Post subject: |
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I have noticed more banding on the 1080p WEB-DLs, which I think is down to the low bitrates iTunes uses.
eg...
iTunes top vs Bluray bottom
That's the only problem I've encountered, though, and I haven't noticed it on the 720p releases at all.
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garus
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 11:44 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 11:54 Post subject: Re: what's up with the quality of those web-dl of tv shows? |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | I thought that they'd be better quality than the reg tv rips... but they're all blocky and shit... what gives? |
they are better than hdtv rips, in some cases by a big margin (plenty of comparison online), but nowhere near as good as bluray like cirithungol mentioned.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 11:59 Post subject: |
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banding artifacts are the worst, just have to watch the Vikings intro to know what I mean
no amount of dithering can save that
its true, web-dl dont help with this the main reason I get them is to be rid of the tv logo, advert jumps/banners and to see the full creds
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 12:07 Post subject: |
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webzeels are still far better than hdtv, next best thing to bluray.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 12:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 12:43 Post subject: |
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Most of the time they look better than regular rips to me, but some shows are the exception to the rule I guess.
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 17:14 Post subject: |
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Bates motel look horrrid in web-dl 
downloaded some veronica mars... all web-dl and every episode is blocky 
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 18:48 Post subject: |
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compared to the HDTV rips?
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 19:08 Post subject: |
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| Paintface wrote: | | compared to the HDTV rips? |
What are you viewing the web-dl's on? Every time I downloaded one, it was worse than the 720p x264 release. Usually just go with the 720p ones though so might've been unlucky too.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Apr 2013 19:09 Post subject: |
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Good HDTV HBO rip is much much better than web-DLs. But compared to typical scene 720p HDTV encodes, the web-DLs are better.
Some iTunes web-DLs are encoded in 6-bits to conserve bitrats but retain details.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Apr 2013 02:30 Post subject: |
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i download breaking bad / the walking dead / the americans in 1080p web-dl, and out of being impatient i download the 720p hdtv rips now and then and i can def tell that those hdtv rips are not superior. I agree webdl is nothing like a great mastered and ripped bluray rip, but webdl will always be the choice for me if bluray isnt an option.
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