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LeoNatan
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 Posted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 04:28 Post subject: LG 47LM8600/47LM860V/47LM8600WHATEVERINYOURREGION |
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Anyone has experience with this TV? I was looking at Samsung TVs, but fuck damn, their "smart" shit looks so horrible and is full of useless crap like waving and voice. LG's is shit too, but at least their remote is like a Wii remote and the home shit looks more elegant.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 04:44 Post subject: |
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I've never gone wrong with either a Sammy or an LG. I own one of the 75" smart TVs (my parents are filthy rich and, when this TV broke after just over a month of ownership, they went out and bought something else and told me I could have this one if I could fix it. Some resoldering of the power plug and voila! a free TV!
And, yes, the smart features are crap, but are pretty cool at the same time. The 3D is pretty good, if not a little dim, and the gesture and voice features work as expected (sometimes better). Overall, I'd recommend either TV, but apparently, the Samsungs have some sort of add-on that allows you to add a different CPU if the need should ever arise (Evolution Kit or somesuch), I'm not sure how long that'll last... Also, the Samsung remote has a trackpad on it that I've found to be somewhat invaluable while trying to quickly navigate the Amazon On Demand and Hulu apps.
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Thanks for the idea Lutz!
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 05:04 Post subject: |
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I will not be navigating "apps" haha.
But also, the LG TVs have IPS panels whereas the Samsung ones have S-PVA. I think this is also important.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 05:12 Post subject: |
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One word: Phillips
Today I didn't even need to use my AK. I gotta say it was a good day. (c) - Ice Cube
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 11:23 Post subject: |
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| Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | | my advice is wait a little, new TV models always come out Q1 of every year, so models that are now on the market are almost 1 year old. |
That period has passed already. CES was almost a month ago, CeBIT is more about IT so it's rare to see new TVs around that period. |
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 11:50 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | Intel_NVIDIA wrote: | | my advice is wait a little, new TV models always come out Q1 of every year, so models that are now on the market are almost 1 year old. |
That period has passed already. CES was almost a month ago, CeBIT is more about IT so it's rare to see new TVs around that period. |
what i meant is Q1-Q2 of every year all major tv manufacturers (or most of them) update models to new ones.
for example samsung. 2011 Q1 D-series, 2012 Q1 E-series, 2013 Q1 F-series. same goes for LG and sony etc. you should see some nice discounts for old models around this time, if you are fine with having model that is getting phased out.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Feb 2013 12:42 Post subject: |
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Here's my experience with the TVs I've seen at friends and family.
Philips: top model (I have the 9706) has probably the best picture quality from last gen. I haven't read anything about 9707. I was sceptical about ambilight, but it's an excellent addition now that I have seen it. Philips also has the most extensive smart platform here in the Netherlands I believe. It's a slow TV though and the internal mediaplayer sucks.
Excellent service here in the Netherlands, no questions asked and no dicking around (as opposed to Samsung)
LG: Great design, excellent internal mediaplayer (eats pretty much everything I throw at it, I had to go out and buy an external mediaplayer for my 9706 since the internal mediaplayer is just crap), best smarttv application I have seen among LG/Samsung/Philips (the UI is very intuitive).
Samsung: I have had very bad experience with Samsung. Our first TV was a Samsung and it had really shitty build quality, it had to be repaired several times. On top of that, Samsung has bad service in my experience. Build quality is a matter of luck too obviously, my cousin had the screen of his 9706 replaced five!!! times for example.
My sister and a friend have the last gen 50" top models, you won't believe how much bleeding it has. A TV worth 2200 euros with so much backlight bleeding is plain ridiculous. Another family member has a topmodel new-gen with all the fancy stuff, while the "look at me being scifi controlling the TV with motion" thing seemed quite unresponsive to me, the new CPU gives the TV a very obvious edge. It's a very fast TV and speed is a major pro when using smarttv (my 9706 is slow i that area for example).
Samsung also shines in overall design imo, but IQ was more important for me.
To conclude, here's my opinion based on several models:
Philips: if you have the money to buy a top model, you'll have excellent IQ. Ambilight is excellent.
LG: has some of the best midclass models. I would've bought LG since I won't spend 2000+ on a top Philips, but my uncle works at Philips so I got almost 50% discount.
Samsung: I had bad experiences with Samsung (which is luck), I saw bleeding on other people's TVs, but Samsung TVs have the best design and look very sleek when mounted imo.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 08:02 Post subject: |
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if u get a plasma LG your good to go, thats what a friend told me today when i was searching for a good pc gaming tv to replace my old sony kdl40v3000 lcd. so i about to find that out differece is i have my eyes on the Panny because of the blacks, plasma technology has evolved since its 1rst generation making them last longer and energy consumption is better, only downfall would be a little shimmer aura around some parts of the picture but thats it.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 08:04 Post subject: |
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and philips has very good input lag and response time, i cant get that model cause no one sells it down here.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 22:38 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | Here's my experience with the TVs I've seen at friends and family.
Philips: top model (I have the 9706) has probably the best picture quality from last gen. I haven't read anything about 9707. I was sceptical about ambilight, but it's an excellent addition now that I have seen it. Philips also has the most extensive smart platform here in the Netherlands I believe. It's a slow TV though and the internal mediaplayer sucks.
Excellent service here in the Netherlands, no questions asked and no dicking around (as opposed to Samsung)
LG: Great design, excellent internal mediaplayer (eats pretty much everything I throw at it, I had to go out and buy an external mediaplayer for my 9706 since the internal mediaplayer is just crap), best smarttv application I have seen among LG/Samsung/Philips (the UI is very intuitive).
Samsung: I have had very bad experience with Samsung. Our first TV was a Samsung and it had really shitty build quality, it had to be repaired several times. On top of that, Samsung has bad service in my experience. Build quality is a matter of luck too obviously, my cousin had the screen of his 9706 replaced five!!! times for example.
My sister and a friend have the last gen 50" top models, you won't believe how much bleeding it has. A TV worth 2200 euros with so much backlight bleeding is plain ridiculous. Another family member has a topmodel new-gen with all the fancy stuff, while the "look at me being scifi controlling the TV with motion" thing seemed quite unresponsive to me, the new CPU gives the TV a very obvious edge. It's a very fast TV and speed is a major pro when using smarttv (my 9706 is slow i that area for example).
Samsung also shines in overall design imo, but IQ was more important for me.
To conclude, here's my opinion based on several models:
Philips: if you have the money to buy a top model, you'll have excellent IQ. Ambilight is excellent.
LG: has some of the best midclass models. I would've bought LG since I won't spend 2000+ on a top Philips, but my uncle works at Philips so I got almost 50% discount.
Samsung: I had bad experiences with Samsung (which is luck), I saw bleeding on other people's TVs, but Samsung TVs have the best design and look very sleek when mounted imo. |
What makes the Philips so much better?
Also, Samsung vs LG, I think the passive 3D is a very important factor.
Here is some interesting read:
http://www.displaymate.com/3D_TV_ShootOut_1.htm |
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Feb 2013 00:28 Post subject: Re: LG 47LM8600/47LM860V/47LM8600WHATEVERINYOURREGION |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Anyone has experience with this TV? I was looking at Samsung TVs, but fuck damn, their "smart" shit looks so horrible and is full of useless crap like waving and voice. LG's is shit too, but at least their remote is like a Wii remote and the home shit looks more elegant. |
Samsung 55" 3D LED Smart TV UE55ES8005 <- ive got one of those and i love it.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Feb 2013 12:01 Post subject: |
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The color correctness, contrast ratio and LED dimming on the Philips 9706 was the best of its generation (2012). It was also one of the very few TVs with full LED array.
I'd definitely go passive with 3D, I can't see much difference between passive and active (yeah yeah active is supposed to be better), but sadly most top models have active 3D since it's "awesome".
My advice, avoid edge-lit TVs (though the TV will be thicker as a consequence), if possible play with the TV to assess speed with smart applications, go with passive 3D if possible. I'd also recommend ambilight, but sadly you'll be stuck with Philips.
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