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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Nov 2012 19:08    Post subject:
What's that other link for Becky?
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Nov 2012 19:55    Post subject:
Those are application profiles. Smile

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Beta 8:
Improves CrossFire scaling for Planetside 2
Improves performance up to 5% in Max Payne 3
Includes single GPU performance updates for Far Cry 3
Resolves the Skyrim lighting issue (missing a lighting pass) for the AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series [secondary problem from b7 fix]
Resolves the hang encountered playing Dishonored on the AMD Radeon HD 6000 and AMD Radeon HD 5000 Series

AMD Catalyst 12.11 CAP1
Max Payne 3 (DX9): Resolves light reflection corruption in single GPU mode
Far Cry 3: Improves CrossFire performance
Hitman Absolution: Improves Anti-Aliasing performance for single GPU configurations
Sniper Elite 2 – Resolves the flickering encountered when pressing Alt + Enter in CrossFire configurations
Crysis 3: Improves CrossFire performance and fixes corruption
Devil May Cry 5: Improves CrossFire performance
WarFrame: Improves CrossFire performance


First one is the driver itself, second one is a extension of sorts (A .blob file actually containing these profiles.) which brings some new game profiles, ideally you want to use the latest CAP and drivers possible.
(CAP's usually only focus on Crossfire support - to what extent is possible with just a profile and not actual driver code changes - but there are exceptions such as here with the Hitman: Absolution AA performance improvement.)

They've been around for quite some time now, started off fairly slowly but it's a good way to bring support to upcoming games without releasing a full beta driver.

Nvidia does something similar but has now integrated it with their update utility so you can check and download updated profiles as required. Smile


EDIT:
http://www.kn00tcn.net/site/ati-catalyst-profiles/
(A overview, updated fairly often.)
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Nov 2012 11:26    Post subject:
It seems there is a bug with the new (and previous CAPs) where it fails to properly install sometimes. You'll need to manually move some files around (as seen here).
Apparently the fixed CAPs will be released soon, but they will release the next Beta driver that will have CAPs included to fix the issue until then.

Meanwhile I have managed to get my HDMI working properly by leaving MSI Afterburner running in the background. Nothing is actually applied through the AB, but having it running seems to keep things going somehow.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2012 08:00    Post subject:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=371849

12.11 beta 11

AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta11 is now available, and includes the following updates:
(Please note that AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta11 includes all of the fixes found in previous versions of AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta)

Improves performance in Far Cry 3 (up to 25% with 8xMSAA, SSAO enabled @ 1600p, and up to 15% with 8xMSAA, HDAO enabled @1600p) (AMD Catalyst 12.11 CAP2 must also be installed)
Resolves a sporadic system hang encountered with a single AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series GPU seen on X58 and X79 chipsets.
Resolves an intermittent hang encountered with AMD Radeon HD 7000 Series GPUs in a CrossFire Eyefinity setup.
Resolves image corruption found in certain DirectX 9.0c titles
Resolve missing fonts issue in XBMC
Resolves no video issue found in Media Player Classic Home Cinema when using full or half floating point processing
Resolves stability issues found in the previous AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta8 driver for Linux
For users experiencing issues with HDMI Audio under Ubuntu 12.04, users should try installing the “dkms-hda - 0.201211291615~precise1” package from ... and reboot; this will resolve the HDMI Audio issue found in Ubuntu 12.04

12.11 cap2

New profiles added to this release:
- Improves Far Cry 3 performance for single GPU configurations with AA
(Same as cap1?)
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2012 11:24    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Improves performance in Far Cry 3 (up to 25% with 8xMSAA, SSAO enabled @ 1600p, and up to 15% with 8xMSAA, HDAO enabled @1600p) (AMD Catalyst 12.11 CAP2 must also be installed)


But for what cards is this?

JBeckman wrote:
New profiles added to this release:
- Improves Far Cry 3 performance for single GPU configurations with AA
(Same as cap1?)


Cap1 had:

-Max Payne 3 (DX9): Resolves light reflection corruption in single GPU mode
-Far Cry 3: Improves CrossFire performance (but still has microstuttering Cool Face)
-Hitman Absolution: Improves Anti-Aliasing performance for single GPU configurations
-Sniper Elite 2 – Resolves the flickering encountered when pressing Alt + Enter in -CrossFire configurations
-Crysis 3: Improves CrossFire performance and fixes corruption
-Devil May Cry 5: Improves CrossFire performance
-WarFrame: Improves CrossFire performance
-Carrier Command: Gaea Mission: Resolves single GPU corruption when enabling Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center

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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2012 12:58    Post subject:
Aha I confused it with the Hitman profile. Smile
( Hitman Absolution: Improves Anti-Aliasing performance for single GPU configurations )

I am unsure about support, so far the 12.11 beta works for the 5000 series and up but 12.11 so far also has been mostly geared for the GCN architecture which is the 7000 series so those have seen the most benefits with this beta (And probably they're beginning with support for the 8000 series shortly since those will be released early next year or how it was.) but there should still be some improvement for "older" hardware by having a proper game profile available. Smile
(And the CAP profiles work with any driver that supports them and thus any hardware although having the actual code in the driver files for the game might provide even better results.)


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2012 13:00    Post subject:
Ah like that, just an FYI, i got 6000 series, not 5000 Razz

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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2012 13:04    Post subject:
Yes now that you mention it I think I remember that you said that before somewhere, however I just listed the lowest supported hardware the drivers worked with. Smile

5000 and 6000 series are a bit alike though from what I remember although I don't know how AMD has their drivers configured, I assume there's different branches in it depending on the GPU architecture so it knows what features to use for what hardware, Crossfire and AA flags and such but I'm not sure. Smile
(Has to be something like that since they could strip out support for the 4000 series and below from the driver entirely, instead of just removing them from the INF file.)


EDIT: I guess this is how it has to be but it's unfortunate that the drivers are so important for GPU's to include specific profiles and optimizations for both performance and stability instead of just having a more basic set of functions and leaving the rest up to the Windows API (DirectX) and the actual game but I guess it's too complex for this.
(Thus specialized profile only updates to drivers and beta releases for the latest available and upcoming software.)
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Dec 2012 17:14    Post subject:
FC3 definitely improved overall with the new drivers. Even at the same 60fps it seems to be more responsive than it was before.
MSAA is also a viable option now, but I can only use it while maintaining more or less stable 60 fps when it's at 2x and Standard C2A.

I still do have the issue with degraded performance in some areas, where GPU usage drops to 70% and fps goes down to 45-55. It's quite jarring when it happens.
One such area is at the lumber mill/camp (where you had to blow up the weapon caches in one of the earliest missions). My system doesn't like this area at all. With the new drivers it's more manageable, but it still has a noticeable drop as soon as you lay your eyes on it Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Jan 2013 13:10    Post subject:
Did some CF benchmarking on BF3 aswell.

First 2 are with these settings http://stigez.com/bf3settings.png and the last two are with everything maxed out and 4x MSAA, 16x AF, only thing that is off is Motion Blur.

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I guess CF works ok'ish for BF3.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Jan 2013 16:19    Post subject:
MSAA is a real killer for AMD hardware in BF3, without you should get lots more Razz

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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Jan 2013 16:53    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
MSAA is a real killer for AMD hardware in BF3, without you should get lots more Razz


I suppose it is playable like that considering how rarely it dips under 60.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2013 07:58    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
MSAA is a real killer for AMD hardware in BF3, without you should get lots more Razz


Actually in BF3 its not, before Never Settle drivers 7970 ran BF3 without MSAA the same as now with the Never Settle drivers with 4xMSAA. Unbeliavable performance boost with just drivers.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2013 11:29    Post subject:
So my statement still stands, without you get ALOT more fps Wink

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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2013 11:32    Post subject:
2x don't hurt so much in most cases. 2xmsaa + smaa or fxaa is a good option.

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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2013 06:02    Post subject:
http://techreport.com/review/24218/a-driver-update-to-reduce-radeon-frame-times

13.1 should be nearing release and a beta of 13.2 should follow a while later, seems this 13.2 driver has some nice improvements as seen in the above short tests. Smile

EDIT: Oh next week.
Quote:

AMD's Catalyst guru, tells us a variant of the Catalyst 13.2 beta driver we tested will be released via AMD's website next week.


EDIT:
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However, Dodd says additional improvements are coming down the pike, including a rewrite of the software memory manager for GPUs based on the Graphics Core Next architecture that should bring a more general improvement:

(Took a while didn't it?)
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2013 09:19    Post subject:
So Never Settle gave already insane performance boost to 7xxx series, and now we are getting even more. I think AMD driver writers are getting pointed with gun to the head, when they are writing new drivers (write good or die) Very Happy.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2013 09:41    Post subject:
w00t GCN-only improvements yyyyyaaaaayyy Okay

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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2013 10:25    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
w00t GCN-only improvements yyyyyaaaaayyy Okay

That's because those "improvements" are actually AMD fixing the issues caused by bad driver code for GCN cards. Previous generation GPUs shouldn't have that problem.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2013 16:23    Post subject:
New driver should be out by now (13.1, not including the fixes, that will come in the 13.2 betas next week or something).

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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2013 17:05    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
New driver should be out by now (13.1, not including the fixes, that will come in the 13.2 betas next week or something).

I don't think it is though. It got delayed yesterday, so it should be out some time later today.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Jan 2013 17:40    Post subject:
Can AMD finally write drivers?
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2013 00:18    Post subject:
Doesn't seem like that's even the case anymore. This thread was made 3 years ago lol. It's just become the place to talk about AMD drivers now
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2013 00:20    Post subject:
yeah 13.1 are out and they are good.

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2013 00:28    Post subject:
As expected, there aren't really any notable (if any at all) changes - pretty much 12.11 Betas only certified this time.

CCC has a new look in the 3D profile settings though. It's a shame I don't use it anymore Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2013 00:31    Post subject:
I would totally stick to ccc if it only had framerate limiter and fxaa, smaa.

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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2013 01:30    Post subject:
http://techreport.com/review/24218/a-driver-update-to-reduce-radeon-frame-times

looks good , this one will be out next week, and a few weeks later the memory management rewrite will be out also.
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2013 02:33    Post subject:
Yeah, this was posted somewhere higher up on this page too Smile

And on that subject - a variant of 13.2 Betas has been leaked by some guy (you can find the download link at G3D or OCN), so if someone wants to check out the frame latency improvements in selected games (I assume it's the same games tested in that article) they can go ahead and try.
Those are not the official beta drivers though, so keep that in mind - you might have some issues.
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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jan 2013 03:05    Post subject:
hmmm...
Should I check or uncheck "perform scaling on gpu" ?

I am mostly playing on 1080 and my u2312hm have aspect 1:1 correction if needed but 720p comes out not full screen on that display for some reason.

When scling is done by gpu it is good. wonder if there is difference in quality/performance

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