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 Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 18:33 Post subject: Stockholm syndrome + another random question by me |
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Well i'm sure there's a better example of my point but what I wanna know is.... Why do people sometimes have sympathy for people when it is their fault in the first place?
For example I was watching a documentary on Beslan a few weeks ago, and 1 of the women said she said 'thank you' as they let them free (she was 1 of the lucky few with a young child)
I personally don't see how anyone could get into this state of mind and show compassion to people like this. It is a direct result of their actions that got
them in that situation.
another 'query' I have is.... why do people live in hope when there's no hope at all?
An example of this I see is.... imagein being on one of the planes that hit the twin towers. Your trapped with gunmen around you KNOWING you're going to die. It would probably get me killed but i'd make some effort to 'sacrifice' myself in the hope that no1 else gets killed. I'm sure some1 tried to stand up to the terrorist and got killed but if every1 else on the plane rushed too there's a good chance that it wouldn't end up with every1 dying.
btw don't take the 911 reference to heart it's just the first example I could think of so stick on topic 
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 18:53 Post subject: |
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I head enough of it Sublime check ur pm 
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 18:58 Post subject: |
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 dude the sig stays! and what's wrtong with my avatar? 
and on topic please |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 20:50 Post subject: |
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another 'query' I have is.... why do people live in hope when there's no hope at all |
here's a 'query' for you: where would humanity be without hope?
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 21:37 Post subject: |
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when people have nothing, hope is the only thing that keeps them alive.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2005 22:11 Post subject: |
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I think ppl identify with hostage takers in some cases as they might agree with the hostage taker's motives...especially if the hostage takers show compassion and tolerance for them.
but i take it thatd be a given ya know
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spankie
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 01:31 Post subject: |
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have you ever been in a life threatening situation? no
have you ever survived purely on adrenaline instead of brains? no
Do you think people care to think when they know they will die? no
Do you think people care to say 'thank you' after they saw hundreds being killed and not them? no
Imagine you begin in a room with 100 and 90 get killed. and you are 1 of the lucky few. What would you say? 'fucker, haha im alive?' apparently they do not care to kill 1 more as they killed 90 already. They are probably so scared they want to thank them for not killing them.
For the stockholm syndrom.
Thats just a natural reaction. People under very high stress circumstances take everybody with more power as the boss and the correct person.
The stress you have at a hostage is the same stress you have when you would, for example open an aids-test-result after you fucked some aids-whore.
But then hours in a row. The only 'positive', the only 'certainty' you have in those situations-especially when they kill some, and not you-are the hostage takers.
The hope thing.
Have you ever been in a very fucked up situation with no positive outcome possible? You tend to be very hopeful and hope some exterior 'force' will save you.
I'll give a good example.
Me and my friend went kayaking once in a 2Person kayak in france. While getting into the boat if flipped the boat, so we lost food, emergency kit and cellular.
No problem we thought, we'll be at the rendez-vous point in no time.
What happened? we lost our way, we were terribly hungry, and we had absolutely no possibility to warn someone else.
In the end we ended up with our kayak in some big busy canal instead of rural small rivers.
And we both knew we were wrong, we both knew we probably were screwed.
But we kept saying to each other, ' the next turn, they will be waiting there'. So we kept rowing for another 5-6 hours. lol
Was there any hope to find where we should ve been? no? But we kept hoping.
Why? there is no other solution!
What could we do? cry? drown ourselves? get out of the boat and walk? no no no. So we kept rowing. And in the end we saw the rescue car driving by and accidentely we were 'saved'.
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Aug 2005 02:01 Post subject: |
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Yea but a survival mission can hardly be compared to a hostage situation with suicide killers!
Also as for 'thanking them for saving you'.. I just wouldn't say anything but I wouldn't show them any kind of respect for them, my hatred would still be there.
agreeing with their motives is completely different. If you 'agreed' for their cause you would no longer be a hostage!
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