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kumkss
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As all of you stated before: can't go any worse. The last three of them, are unwatchable after 2 times.
And besides, Disney has a good reputation in making good adventure movies (besides Pirates of the Caribbean 2,3,4?). And they certainly, know how to profit from any of them.
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vegitayo
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2012 22:33 Post subject: |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2012 22:35 Post subject: |
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| kumkss wrote: | | . And they certainly, know how to profit from any of them. |
as long as they don't advertise it as another avatar like they did with john carter which bombed. it was a great movie though. but poor marketing and the director got blamed. lol.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2012 22:44 Post subject: |
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I think it's a good news?  I mean Disney isn't that bad..things could be worse with companies like Michael Bay's Platinum Dunes productions 
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2012 22:53 Post subject: |
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| kumkss wrote: | As all of you stated before: can't go any worse. The last three of them, are unwatchable after 2 times.
And besides, Disney has a good reputation in making good adventure movies (besides Pirates of the Caribbean 2,3,4?). And they certainly, know how to profit from any of them. |
Except their latest one which was supposed to be somewhat Star War:ish, Jon Carter was one of the worst movies of all time.
BUT still, Lucas haven't really done anything good with the IP for a very long time. Only messed up the old movies with useless stuff.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2012 23:05 Post subject: |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Oct 2012 23:23 Post subject: |
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this is seriously good news. current franchise is dead. lucas may have ideas here and there but he can't execute them. and he left the company. so the only thing we'd see from star wars is video games and shoddy cartoons. anyone who thinks this is bad... is an idiot.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 01:21 Post subject: |
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I agree with you my Wloda ;D
The games are shoddy too these days 
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 08:10 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | this is seriously good news. current franchise is dead. lucas may have ideas here and there but he can't execute them. and he left the company. so the only thing we'd see from star wars is video games and shoddy cartoons. anyone who thinks this is bad... is an idiot. |
Hoping the new producre wont turn into Brannon/Braga and coplemtely mess everything up. Still as mentioned above and from other places, it cant egt any worse than the prequals.
Anyway im really hoping to see the yuhzaan vong. I love the idea of a species that shun any kind of droids and also refuse the existance of the force. There is so much material in the EU, one thing im hoping they wont film is the resurface of the emperor and lukes brief fall to the dark side.
Also what do you guys think, would they bring back some of the original cast, even if just for brief cameo rolls? They still need Luke as hes the new master of the jedi order, but Mark Hamill might be too old for the part. Also would be very cool to see Harrison Ford as Han Solo again but doubt thats gonna happen...
Dont mess with God, he can impregnate your girlfriend/wife without taking his pants off!
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Saner
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 08:48 Post subject: |
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa! |
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 09:15 Post subject: |
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The Jedi Knight games could hint at stories, the hundreds of books post-RotJ could provide hints to what may lay ahead. There are bound to be other Sith lords outside imperial space that now see the opportunity to seize power, "I sense a great darkness" says Luke as he meditates in the headmaster room of the Jedi School of Padawans.
All in glorious animation, disneyfication and PG13. Ligthsabers that switch colour depending on mood, space ships looking like their lego counter parts (to sell more merchandise).
They should have left it all alone after 4-5-6.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 09:18 Post subject: |
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No, really. After what Lucas did nothing could be worse.
And Disney didn't really change Pixar or Marvel into soulless divisions (like EA does) after buying them you know.
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typical jew comment
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 09:52 Post subject: |
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am i the only one who liked John Carter lol ? I found it way better then failatar for example.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 09:54 Post subject: |
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Pixar was initally a part of Lucasfilm anyways. I recently read up on it, and George Lucas back then created some really popular sub-companies that still do great to this day. Pixar was initally The Graphics Lab, part of Lucasfilm, then sold off to Steve Jobs, THX was also started by Lucas and spun off on its own. And I think Industrial Light & Magic was also started by Lucasfilm. Amazing what this guy did back then, and how he lost his vision lately.
I also discovered that Lucasfilm actually wanted to make a Monkey Island movie (which I always wanted to happen) in 2000, but canceled it. Here comes the kicker: the script was written by Ted Elliot, who (surprise) went on to write Pirates of the Caribbean. And I always thought it was all way too similiar with ghost pirates, a slightly clumsy main character and his strong independent love interest. Also voodoo lady in a remote marsh shack. So here is hoping to a Disney/Lucasfilm/Pixar Monkey Island movie!
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 10:09 Post subject: |
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| me7 wrote: | | Casus wrote: | Whedon is not fit for the potential of the setting. All he can do is jokes and clever pop dialogue. We need someone who can take things seriously.
Probably some fresh blood. |
In my book, Firefly/Serenity is the StarWars George Lucas failed to make with his prequels. Joss Whedon can be serious if he wants to (look at the last Firefly episode). |
Whedon has moments of "seriousness" - but ultimately, he's about the jokes and the twists. He's good at that - and that's fine.
Yes, I liked the last episode of Firefly and the assassin character. But, unfortunately, it amounted to nothing. He posed amusing little questions and made interesting comments - but it was hollow and had nothing to say.
That's pretty much Whedon in a nutshell. He talks and talks - and he's funny, but he has nothing of value to say.
It all comes down to what you like and how you would want something to be treated.
Star Wars - to me - was not primarily about jokes (well, not the old trilogy) - it was about the mythology and the characters. I adored the mythology and I find there's so much potential in the Force and the Jedi/Sith angle. If treated seriously with great characters - it could be masterful.
I suppose Whedon would be able to contribute - but if he was put in charge - I'd be a very sad person. He's just not my cup of tea.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 10:11 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | Casus wrote: | Whedon is not fit for the potential of the setting. All he can do is jokes and clever pop dialogue. We need someone who can take things seriously.
Probably some fresh blood. |
star wars is it's own entire universe. all they need is someone creative with a flair for the spectacle. whedon can do it. star wars needs humour. they all had it. in some weird fashion. whedon can take the source material and give a faithful feature. by faithful i mean it'll be set in the universe and it wont have bullshit.
heck... give it to someone who can do a gritty noir-esque star wars movie. no need for luke, chewie, etc... they were just set in a story that happened in the universe. they can do what the fuck ever they want.
if they were to go with star-trek then they'd need to keep it grounded. but this... fuck no... go big or go home. ep 1 2 and 3 had poor story ideas and poor casting... but other than that they had what makes star wars star wars. big fucking spectacles that just make you go fuck me! |
If all you want is a spectacle - then I agree, go with Whedon. After Avengers, he's certainly proved he can provide that.
I want more, though - but I concede that I'm very greedy when settings have so much potential.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 10:14 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 10:18 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | @Casus:
Why people juddge his skill by Avengers only? It was a great spectacle, because it was supposed to be like that. Haven't you seen Firefly or (more fitting) Serenity? |
Why do you think I'm judging him by that alone?
Avengers was a fantastic spectacle - far beyond any he has done previously. That's why I say he's proved he can provide it.
But based on Firefly, Serenity, Alien 4, Cabin in the Woods and Angel/Buffy - I don't think he understands the appeal of taking things seriously.
Firefly was a great show - and it was fun. But it wasn't how I'd want Star Wars to be treated. I don't want superficial - I want depth.
Serenity was even more superficial - and I never liked the Sister plot angle. But that's me.
Alien 4 was a joke - but it wasn't all Whedon's fault. I place the primary blame on the director.
Cabin in the Woods was absolutely awful.
I HATE Buffy and Angel - simply because of the concepts and the ridiculously implausible mixture of modern day romance/soap with vampire mythology and so on. I won't deny there's quality there - but it's not for me.
CORRECTED - I mean Alien 4 of course.
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Angel and Firefly had pretty dark undertones. I don't know how much Whedon was involved in Angel after the first season though.
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Well, to each his own.
I don't want "dark undertones". I'm actually not interested in "dark" as such, though of course the Sith need to be dark.
I just want something I can take seriously and which isn't essentially a bit of a joke.
The original Star Wars was quite superficial for the most part - and I'm not looking to repeat the past. I want the setting and the concepts to go in a more serious direction and the mythology to be expanded and represented by real talent.
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 10:27 Post subject: |
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Positive news IMO.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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VonMisk
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Oct 2012 10:27 Post subject: |
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Why everybody talks about Whedon? There are other directors that made Marvel movies. Vaughn for example, he made X-Men: First Class which in my opinion was superior to The Avengers.
The Avengers were just what it was a fun, brainless movie to cash in on the brand and characters. Whedon done that but to be honest there was not much work to do. The characters were introduced in each owns movies, the story was simple - fight the differences between the characters and fight the bad guy. He just put it together so it would be easy for the eyes and brains. And IMHO it was his weakest project but as I said before that might have been due to the fact that all was set for him by others (suphero movies).
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How about Snyder? I consider Watchmen one of the best superhero movies out there. I wonder how Star Wars would be with him at the helm... Hmmm....
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http://uk.eonline.com/news/358685/star-wars-7-plot-will-be-quot-an-original-story-quot-says-lucasfilm-source?cmpid=rss-000000-rssfeed-365-topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories
It's not based on any EU story, supposedly.
| Quote: | "It's an original story," a LucasFilm source tells me.
In other words, forget the Star Wars novels. Forget the graphic novels. Forget everything you think you know about what happens to Luke Skywalker. According to my sources, Episode 7 will literally be nothing you've ever seen or read before from the Star Wars universe.
I also hear from several sources that, no matter what you may hear to the contrary, no director has been officially attached to the project. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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