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 Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005 18:16 Post subject: No smoking ban. |
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My buddies business is benign crushed by a new no smoking ban in his city. All smokers do is drive a few miles to the other city's. His business is down 40%.
Any feelings about ( no smoking bans )?
sorry, wrong forum, please move.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005 18:29 Post subject: |
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Yeah smoking is shit, I hope we can eventually phase it out completely.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005 18:40 Post subject: |
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I should have stated it is a pool hall, bar that he owns. Smokers drink, and that is were the money is. Tough to move when you have a lease.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005 21:19 Post subject: |
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| Weducks wrote: | | I should have stated it is a pool hall, bar that he owns. Smokers drink, and that is were the money is. Tough to move when you have a lease. |
I think all these smoking rules are retarded...I dunno where u live, but in toronto, and peel, u cant even have a fuckin smokin room! which is retarded, when I go to local coffee shop, I wanna be able to smoke and drink my coffee inside ya know? And as long as its a closed off room, why the fuck not right?
Still, bars here do get away with smoking inside, u pay $1 to join their "private club/lounge" or whatever they call it, then its no longer a public bar, rather a private establishment which smoking is permissable
he should try that |
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005 21:27 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | Weducks wrote: | | I should have stated it is a pool hall, bar that he owns. Smokers drink, and that is were the money is. Tough to move when you have a lease. |
I think all these smoking rules are retarded...I dunno where u live, but in toronto, and peel, u cant even have a fuckin smokin room! which is retarded, when I go to local coffee shop, I wanna be able to smoke and drink my coffee inside ya know? And as long as its a closed off room, why the fuck not right? |
Think about the other people in that place and the employes, even if they make a smoke room they have to pay for it and the employes still have to go in there.
Its just good with smoking being baned on public places.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005 21:33 Post subject: |
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| Macknu wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | Weducks wrote: | | I should have stated it is a pool hall, bar that he owns. Smokers drink, and that is were the money is. Tough to move when you have a lease. |
I think all these smoking rules are retarded...I dunno where u live, but in toronto, and peel, u cant even have a fuckin smokin room! which is retarded, when I go to local coffee shop, I wanna be able to smoke and drink my coffee inside ya know? And as long as its a closed off room, why the fuck not right? |
Think about the other people in that place and the employes, even if they make a smoke room they have to pay for it and the employes still have to go in there.
Its just good with smoking being baned on public places. |
U miss read what i said man...I agree in public places where there are smokers and non smokers, totally cool
But say I go to Tim Hortons to grab a coffee and read the paper on a sunday morning after a hard nite of partying, I wanna be able to go in and have mo choice as to if i sit in the public area or in the smoking room...not an area, a smoking room with a door and tables and chairs and ventillation etc
they used to have these all over a few years back but they got rid of them in most places
And to be honest, if u go into a bar, u gotta expect there will be smokers in there...if not, do go in ya now, go to a club where ppl are less likely to smoke cuz of the dancing, some girls dont like smokers etc
I have a question for the europeans on here.
What are the smoking laws in ur respective countries? ie england, germany, sweden etc Can u smoke in malls, barber shops etc...thats how it was here when I was a lickle yute  |
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005 22:45 Post subject: |
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Well I smoke so I guess I usually smelll like smoek after a nite of drinking
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 11:11 Post subject: |
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I’ll move this to general if you don't mind.
and i do agree with smoking bans in public places.. However, i think some bars or clubs could have the license and just have a warning on the door saying " you assume the risks by entering this establishment."
i mean if you know there is harmful smoke somewhere and you still go there, then it's your own fault though right???
in Toronto clubs are much more friendly places for me now, i don't smell like a freaking cigarette now every time i go there... it use to be SICK... now smokers can use the patio and we can enjoy better air inside.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 11:21 Post subject: |
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If I want to go out, I don't want it to be obligatory to have to be a second hand smoker. Smokers and smoke smell like shit, period.
Why should I have to go someplace else, because a small amount of people have decided to make the air smell like crotch?
Get them out!
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 11:39 Post subject: |
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| MAD_MAX333 wrote: | and i do agree with smoking bans in public places.. However, i think some bars or clubs could have the license and just have a warning on the door saying " you assume the risks by entering this establishment."
i mean if you know there is harmful smoke somewhere and you still go there, then it's your own fault though right??? |
Think about those who work there, they dont have much choice. And you cant tell them to quit so this can be a smoking bar either.
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Saner
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 12:00 Post subject: |
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Freedom of choice, is something that is sadly lacking in todays world
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 12:01 Post subject: |
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Well smoking imposes risk on others health with out any real choice of none smokers. I am all for the ban.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 12:15 Post subject: |
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Go elsewhere, it should be the choice of the person who owns the business, not the goverment.
If they want people to stop smoking, make it in itself illegal to smoke.
Dont make paper bans, to take away even more freedom from the voting public.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 12:25 Post subject: |
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if the voting public really cared, they would not re elect them and elect someone that would take the bans away
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 12:28 Post subject: |
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I smoke,
But I wish they ban the evil little white fuckers coz thats the only way am going to stop
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The Rat
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 15:03 Post subject: |
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Ban all smoking everywhere. Deadly habit. I have seen relatives die from it.
Second hand smoke kills too. Your addiction should not kill other innocent people.
| kirkblitz wrote: | | You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity |
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 15:15 Post subject: |
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Only thing is that bans crush local bars and other businesses. Should be in-acted on at the state or country level. 40% decrease will kill and business.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 17:07 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | If I want to go out, I don't want it to be obligatory to have to be a second hand smoker. Smokers and smoke smell like shit, period.
Why should I have to go someplace else, because a small amount of people have decided to make the air smell like crotch?
Get them out! |
Thats a bit harsh and simply isnt the way things work in this day and age.
Let the buggers smoke it keeps my tax bills down .
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 17:26 Post subject: America in Canada |
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The yanks put the squeeze on a Canadian politicain whom is well known to smoke pot (so what!) . DEA agents with the help from Vancouver Police arrested him with charges pending. I, as a Canadian, I think this is total BS, and think that America should stay out of Canada's internal affairs. I think that American foriegn policy has gone too far! I think America rapes us all, and as humans throughout the world we should unite and crush America! Any comments?
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 19:34 Post subject: |
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| MAD_MAX333 wrote: | I’ll move this to general if you don't mind.
and i do agree with smoking bans in public places.. However, i think some bars or clubs could have the license and just have a warning on the door saying " you assume the risks by entering this establishment."
i mean if you know there is harmful smoke somewhere and you still go there, then it's your own fault though right???
in Toronto clubs are much more friendly places for me now, i don't smell like a freaking cigarette now every time i go there... it use to be SICK... now smokers can use the patio and we can enjoy better air inside. |
So instead of smelling cigarettes, u smell nothing but sweat? 
I find that alot man, some ppl just dont use enough deodorant when they go clubbing. Thats why I put on a bunch still. Strong when I leave the house, but after 10 mins of being in the club and such, it balances out |
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 22:02 Post subject: Re: America in Canada |
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| SupraGTE wrote: | | The yanks put the squeeze on a Canadian politicain whom is well known to smoke pot (so what!) . DEA agents with the help from Vancouver Police arrested him with charges pending. I, as a Canadian, I think this is total BS, and think that America should stay out of Canada's internal affairs. I think that American foriegn policy has gone too far! I think America rapes us all, and as humans throughout the world we should unite and crush America! Any comments? |
Canada will be a state of America, soon enough.
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| Posted: Sun, 31st Jul 2005 22:08 Post subject: Re: America in Canada |
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| Weducks wrote: | | SupraGTE wrote: | | The yanks put the squeeze on a Canadian politicain whom is well known to smoke pot (so what!) . DEA agents with the help from Vancouver Police arrested him with charges pending. I, as a Canadian, I think this is total BS, and think that America should stay out of Canada's internal affairs. I think that American foriegn policy has gone too far! I think America rapes us all, and as humans throughout the world we should unite and crush America! Any comments? |
Canada will be a state of America, soon enough. |
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Aug 2005 04:40 Post subject: |
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| -=Cartoon=- wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | MAD_MAX333 wrote: | I’ll move this to general if you don't mind.
and i do agree with smoking bans in public places.. However, i think some bars or clubs could have the license and just have a warning on the door saying " you assume the risks by entering this establishment."
i mean if you know there is harmful smoke somewhere and you still go there, then it's your own fault though right???
in Toronto clubs are much more friendly places for me now, i don't smell like a freaking cigarette now every time i go there... it use to be SICK... now smokers can use the patio and we can enjoy better air inside. |
So instead of smelling cigarettes, u smell nothing but sweat?
I find that alot man, some ppl just dont use enough deodorant when they go clubbing. Thats why I put on a bunch still. Strong when I leave the house, but after 10 mins of being in the club and such, it balances out |
Your right... i go clubbing heaps (im a dj) and i noticed that change ... because smoke blocks your nose smell thingys.... u notice people sweating a whole lot more..
For general bars etc its alot niicer.. but for clubbing.... 
Althou at one of the clubs i dj in one the bouncers actually has a few cans of deoderant and sprays people as they go in lol |
Man, I'd be so offended and prolly start a fight over something like that lol u get sprayed with shit as u enter the club...thats retarded...and very offensive lol |
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| Posted: Mon, 1st Aug 2005 04:54 Post subject: |
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| -=Cartoon=- wrote: | haha some people need it after a long night of dancing...
They dont spray everyone.. 
Its pretty funny watching a bouncer smell people  |
lol that acutally sounds kinda freaky still...I dunno if I'd be comfortable with some next man smelling me...fuck that...lol |
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