If true it would be nice if they do this, that monthly enforcement only causes things to get rushed.
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There should be a public announcement today, but I have been allowed to share this info right now:
- AMD will end monthly Catalyst driver releases starting with Catalyst 12.5 (which won't exist). They have decided to focus harder on quality and improvements vs regular updates which may not bring many new things. This way there will be no need for two separate driver development paths every month: one to get the official WHQL driver and another that keeps doing the regular driver development.
- We should expect more "hot fixes" and "preview drivers" when new games are released or urgent fixes are required.
- There is a beta driver we are testing right now that fixes the Eyefinity tearing on the third monitor when mixing outputs. I have verified that it works with Souther Islands based cards, so I don't know if it will work with previous cards. Anyway, if no major issues are found, this driver should be publicly available next week.
A step in the right direction.
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Is there a specific order how to install the driver and the CAP? CAP was released before but CAP sounds like an incremental driver addon?!?
It shouldn't matter... past a certain driver release (10. something), the CAPs work with any driver version.
What's annoying though, is that you have to manually uninstall the previous CAPs, otherwise you will have a whole bunch of "Application Profiles" in the Uninstall menu. And unlike the drivers, they require you to reboot every time after (un)installation, which is a bit strange.
Is there a specific order how to install the driver and the CAP? CAP was released before but CAP sounds like an incremental driver addon?!?
It shouldn't matter... past a certain driver release (10. something), the CAPs work with any driver version.
What's annoying though, is that you have to manually uninstall the previous CAPs, otherwise you will have a whole bunch of "Application Profiles" in the Uninstall menu. And unlike the drivers, they require you to reboot every time after (un)installation, which is a bit strange.
It's because CAP's change/add to the registry, and the registry needs to be reloaded which is attainable through a reset.
Yep nvidia sucks... Their latest drivers (v ~300) are causing memory leaks (also core is always 100% even on 5 year old games) on my MSI card (they have acknowledged the issue, but aren't doing anything)
For example.. cod4 ran 180 frames and now barely runs 60 (and that's not even constant) WTF..
Cant downgrade either since then.. the newest games would not even start (MP3)..
So yes.. they do suck, since betas are for a reason.
You can want something as much as you want. The reality is is that Linux is irrelevant for the home desktop consumer market. A company like Nvidia will only care about the platforms that the vast majority of it's customers use. The fact that they even provide linux drivers for their current desktop GPU's is just them being nice. If they didn't it would hardly impact sales at all.
The only area they need to care about is the server/integrated/mobile market. (With regards to linux)
Why would you even install linux on a machine that has a graphics card?
Its pointless except for a server
Mchart wrote:
He's talking more about the integrated/low power market.
On the desktop market though I don't see why it matters. Windows is all that matters for the home consumer desktop market, and OSX behind that.
Yeah, I'm sure I'm the only developer who uses Linux next to a Windows installation just because it's all so much easier to use rather than having to fuck around with a ton of mismatching DLLs; or having to relink the fucking OS X binaries because they're 4 years old and broken
Not to mention the tons of people that use XBMC/Boxee with their favourite Linux distro (or even take the easy way out with MythBuntu). Especially that group of people tends to flock to one specific piece of hardware if it's supported properly. "Back in the day" the AIW's were popular, nowadays it's Hauppauge who try to do their bit.
And let's not forget the fact that in the embedded and compact system market it's Linux that rules - better support would ensure their position there.
But hey, what do I know, right? All I know is that even running a second monitor on Nvidia is still very wonky. AMD's drivers are far from perfect, but at least the shit that's in there WORKS.
Why would you even install linux on a machine that has a graphics card?
Its pointless except for a server
Mchart wrote:
He's talking more about the integrated/low power market.
On the desktop market though I don't see why it matters. Windows is all that matters for the home consumer desktop market, and OSX behind that.
Yeah, I'm sure I'm the only developer who uses Linux next to a Windows installation just because it's all so much easier to use rather than having to fuck around with a ton of mismatching DLLs; or having to relink the fucking OS X binaries because they're 4 years old and broken
Not to mention the tons of people that use XBMC/Boxee with their favourite Linux distro (or even take the easy way out with MythBuntu). Especially that group of people tends to flock to one specific piece of hardware if it's supported properly. "Back in the day" the AIW's were popular, nowadays it's Hauppauge who try to do their bit.
And let's not forget the fact that in the embedded and compact system market it's Linux that rules - better support would ensure their position there.
But hey, what do I know, right? All I know is that even running a second monitor on Nvidia is still very wonky. AMD's drivers are far from perfect, but at least the shit that's in there WORKS.
Your missing the point that people like you are such a very small minority that a company like nvidia maybe only gives one out of two shits.
I'm not discrediting that there are people who have a need. I fully realize there are some people who have a need for proper support.
The reality and economics of it though dictate a different position from a company that is owned by shareholders looking for a profit.
New profiles added to this release:
- Aliens Colonial Marines: Improves CrossFire performance
- Guild Wars 2: Improves the CrossFire performance
- DOTA 2: Improves the CrossFire performance
- Gas Guzzlers: Improves the CrossFire performance
- Salvation Prophecy: Disables CrossFire support to fix a crash found running in Multi-GPU mode
- Deus Ex: Human Revolution: Further refinements to increase CrossFire scaling performance
- Batman arkham City – Resolves texture corruption seen when enabling Super Sample Anti-Aliasing
- Shogun II – Resolves flickering seen when running in CrossFire
- APB Reload – Disables Crossfire to resolve corruption seen when playing this title.
- Company of Heroes 2 – Resolves Anti-Aliasing issues seen when enabling Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center
- Risen 2 – improves CrossFire performance
- Dishonored – improves CrossFire performance
- Sniper Elite V2 – improves CrossFire performance
- The Secret World (DX11, and DX9) – Improves CrossFire peformance
It's a AMD optimized title, same with that new AvP game I believe, on the other hand so is Sniper Elite V2 and Shogun II along with Deus Ex 3 and those are still being fixed up, sure Crossfire updates can be slow but they shouldn't be that slow though it's nice to see things fixed and improved when possible.
12.8 WHQL should arrive mid-August sometime, probably the first proper AMD Windows 8 supporting driver (WDDM 1.2 and such.) I would guess but it also likely improves the black screen freeze issue for the 7000 series that AMD started fixing with 12.6 but isn't still fully resolved yet along with the usual fixes and updates.
I don't think these CAP profiles can do all that much without proper code in the core drivers either though the same likely goes for Nvidia but they're a bit faster with profile releases and beta driver tests although they too have a couple of known issues and faults from what I've read, neither is perfect though at least both are continuing to improve.
I guess we'll soon also see more about the 8000 series and then whatever Nvidia might choose to try and counter with, 690 is already out whereas the 7990 is only now starting to come together officially outside of third party variations, don't know that much about the GTX/Fermi 700 series though, guess we'll see more of it towards the end of the year.
(AMD I believe was planning to have the 8000 out by Winter or such but I guess it could be delayed to next year for more general availability, haven't checked in a while how it's going or what their launch schedule is.)
12.7 CAP3 is now out, fixes a bug with HUD corruption under Crossfire in the game "The Secret World" and also improves single-GPU performance under Torchlight 2, however it further disables Crossfire for the game due to compatibility problems.
(And some improvements to Crossfire in Hawken.)
Installed the 12.8 WHQL and 12.7 CAP3 a couple of days ago. Now, it might be a huge crazy-ass conicidence, but from that point on anytime I used Firefox for more than a couple of minutes, it would end up using 2gb of Physical RAM, then crashing. Ended up having to turn off Hardware Acceleration in the FF options. That sorted it.
Just in case anyone else has problems.
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