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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2012 16:24    Post subject:
Wow thats alot of editions, wtf Microshit.


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2012 16:29    Post subject:
I don't see "Windows 8 Shit Free edition" in there. Cool Face Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2012 16:41    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2012 16:52    Post subject:
DXWarlock wrote:
Win3.1 = utterly fucking useless because all the good stuff was in DOS
95= looked cool, unstable as hell
98= better
98SE= win.
ME= how the fuck do you screw up 98SE so badly with a UI overhaul?
XP= how the fuck do you screw up NT5 so badly?
XP+SP1= woot, stable
XP+SP2= wow, a good O/S
XP+SP3= stopped caring, Vista was out
Vista=fine, except for fucking retards whining it's "heavy" - so was XP at release, relative to PC's of that time you dipshit
7= <3
8= ...........

Sorry, just had to Smile

3.1 really was fucking useless and XP at release was much heavier at the time than Vista was - not to mention infinitely more unstable. Both had the usual driver issues one gets with a new kernel, anyone bringing that up is a retard. The "dipshit" above isn't aimed at you btw, but at every "industry expert" that whined so much about Vista, which really was fine. Better than XP at release anyway.


I'll stick with my Ubuntu for daily use for now, Win8 does look like a massive failure. Need to see whether OS X can work for me as a daily OS at some point, because it would be good having Photoshop without having to reboot to Windows (it doesn't run through Wine and in a VM is quite awkward Sad). Most of the stuff I use is available for OS X so that's not an issue, it's just that Finder sucks balls and I still don't like the Dock - apart from the obvious UI bloat overall Sad
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2012 17:10    Post subject:
UI bloat? OS X looks so much more elegant than both this turd and Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro really). It used to looks quite bad, but it is now so much better (started with Leopard and further improvements in each version later).

Compare LibreOffice:

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to Office 2007/2008 (Mac)/2010/2011 (Mac):

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Laughing

Also, speaking of the Dock, Unity doesn't look much different from it.

How did Microsoft go from Windows Vista/7 to 8? I mean, how is it possible. Did the designers drop on their head? Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2012 22:08    Post subject:
hmm i must say i like it Very Happy writing this from the desktop but startmenu?? wth was that good for really? win+x got all the things for which i needed the startmenu. and i like the new metro start menu as well , you got nice litte widgets for apps whats so wrong about seeing who mailed you before you open the actual app? ergonimically its amazing short mousepaths, big icons, i must say iยดm really impressed cause i thought it couldnt get any better than win7. (osx not counted!!) windows 8 is a big step forward and iยดm sure that metro is the way to go for the future, mark my words Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2012 23:23    Post subject:
the only people who seem to like it are the app developers who can see dollar signs before thier eyes. i can seen eventually if ms goes this route that we will only be able to install ms approved apps in thier locked down os, and will have to jailbreak it to install anything else.


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Mar 2012 23:45    Post subject:
dangerouseddy wrote:
the only people who seem to like it are the app developers who can see dollar signs before thier eyes. i can seen eventually if ms goes this route that we will only be able to install ms approved apps in thier locked down os, and will have to jailbreak it to install anything else.

This is not possible, as this model can never work with business. And if Apple has a loophole for business to allow for deployment of non-appstore software, MS is not the one to remove it. Windows 8 is horrible, but let's not derp in paranoia.
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Mar 2012 00:17    Post subject:
yes i probably did get carried away, just seems that ms wants to head in that direction eventually maybe in 10 years time?.


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Mar 2012 16:54    Post subject:
so any benchmarks out comparing win8 to win7 in games ? hows the memory usage?
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Mar 2012 16:59    Post subject:
I just dont want to believe that they will release Win8 desktop version without "Start" and taskbar. Im following Win8 development very vaguely, but isn't MS main goal with Win8 to get it on tablets, where big bucks are now and where they don't have anything to offer ?


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Mar 2012 17:02    Post subject:
Paintface wrote:
so any benchmarks out comparing win8 to win7 in games ? hows the memory usage?


Performance seems to be (almost) identical.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1425/pg8/windows-8-installation-overview-and-radeon-7750-fx-6100-performance-gaming-performance.html


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Mar 2012 17:47    Post subject:
Paintface wrote:
so any benchmarks out comparing win8 to win7 in games ? hows the memory usage?

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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Mar 2012 19:16    Post subject:
If the performance in games is the same as W7 I personally don't see any valid reason to switch to Windows Paint Razz

@Leo: soe revolutionary xD Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Mar 2012 20:34    Post subject:
I still think that start menu isn't all that bad. I've pinned literally everything I use regularly, from programs to folders, and I think it works really well as a launcher for those. Pressing the win key and clicking on a tile you need feels quite natural and fast compared to using the jump lists for example. The fact that it automatically switches back to desktop and saves the cursor position also helps. It's probably just me being a MetroDerp and I'm sure there are more efficient ways of doing exactly the same thing on Win7(especially via 3rd party software like RocketDock), but the start menu itself is ok IMO.

The Metro apps are a whole different story though. Their interface is fucking awful and clunky, and the fact that they are fullscreen makes it impossible to multitask(the snap feature is a complete failure). Such useless crap for desktop users. The only good thing about some of them is their ability to display info on the "live tiles" without having to launch them. Using the win key to quickly look at the weather or RAM/CPU usage seems like a good alternative to desktop gadgets.

Aside from the Metro stuff, the desktop experience feels pretty much like "Windows 7.5". There are all these improvements to explorer, file copying, task manager, the built-in support for mounting ISOs, etc. Win8 also uses less RAM, boots really fast and performance seems better overall.

I'll definitely use it instead of Win7 from now on. After all, both are free Cool Face
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Mar 2012 23:03    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
UI bloat? OS X looks so much more elegant than both this turd and Ubuntu (or any other Linux distro really). It used to looks quite bad, but it is now so much better (started with Leopard and further improvements in each version later).

Elegant? You mean how you "maximise" a window, yet still lose 3cm of space because there's a massive titlebar that is completely unused? Smile
The global menu in OS X is a great idea, but the execution in Unity is so much better.

iNatan wrote:
Also, speaking of the Dock, Unity doesn't look much different from it.

I don't use the standard Unity sidebar, I use DockbarX which is almost identical to Win7's taskbar. The dock in OS X is too bloated design wise; it looks and works like crap when you shrink it down to a decent size (default is way too big and autohide is counter productive).

Overall OS X just wastes a lot of screen real estate. What I don't get is how you can call Unity more bloated, because ignoring that it takes a checkbox to disable the bloat you don't like, it certainly isn't more bloated out of the box than OS X. Please give me an example of what you mean, because I don't get the same screen real estate on OS X as I do on Ubuntu or Windows.

It's shit like that which is keeping me from using OS X as a daily OS. Apple don't support it for shit (points at pstops filter failure once again). At least with Windows and Ubuntu you get a hotfix very quickly if something breaks, with Apple you can consider yourself lucky if it happens within 3 months. Wouldn't be such a big problem if everything was easy to patch and recompile, but even that is not always the case.

As an OS it's quite fine, I just don't think a lot of things said about it are true. It's not more elegant everywhere, only some of it is. It's sure as hell not less of a resource hog either, because even Leopard runs like shit on high-end PPC Macs, while Win7 runs just fine on a Centrino M 1.6 w/ 768 MB RAM.

You've turned around quite badly btw Leo, you weren't this supportive of OS X before. Either I'm missing something when I use OS X or you've fallen for Apple Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Mar 2012 14:40    Post subject:
As you may know there are those componentized Embedded Windows Systems. Could one build a version of Windows 8 without Metro? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Mar 2012 15:51    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Mar 2012 16:56    Post subject:
http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

Now we need third party software just to have a start menu Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Mar 2012 17:06    Post subject:
Knowing Brad Wardell, he'll charge 30$ for that piece of shit Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Mar 2012 17:10    Post subject:
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-consumer-preview-call-common-sense-142476 Someone's butthurt.

Come on, you want useful OS in 2012? What is this, 2009 or 2007 or 2001 or 1999 or 1997 or 1995? Rolling Eyes
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Paul Thurrott tend to be butthurt when his opinion isn't taken for fact.


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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Mar 2012 16:57    Post subject:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/6/2848579/microsoft-office-15-features-improvements



Look at the Excel 15 screenshot. It looks like a freaking DOS app. Laughing
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I thought you were trolling but it really does Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Mar 2012 23:47    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
What I don't get is how you can call Unity more bloated, because ignoring that it takes a checkbox to disable the bloat you don't like, it certainly isn't more bloated out of the box than [...]

Not sure how to call it.. bloat or bad coding, bugs or just what the fuck is going on in teh latest and greatest ubuntu 12.04 but it runed like garbage on my toshiba nb550d. garbage! same with gnome3. im ok with simple/basic interfaces as long as they at least run fast?! For what i think the general interpretation of "bloat" is, i couldnt find any to justify the bad performance ?!


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Mar 2012 11:39    Post subject:
Microsoft please stop with this madness.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Mar 2012 12:20    Post subject:
Windows 8 is so great an intuitive:



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