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bxrdj
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Hey guys - im loooking to up my system a bit - currently running two GTX 560's from EVGA in SLI, and can run BF3 on HIGH during normal online gameplay. Please note I run a 30 inch screen @ 2560x1600
im looking to get this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130751
single card for now and ill use one of my old 560's for physics ...
my question is - should I wait for kepler cards until april or just go with this - im dying to play this generation of games at optimal settings and just want to make sure this card will be able to max everything out ...
any helpful thoughts? (please steer away from any ATI suggestions as its just not happening)
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Werelds
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2012 20:29 Post subject: |
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A 580 still won't run it maxed out, especially not at anything above 1080p, forget it. You can overclock all you want, but you're not going to get there.
Waiting for Kepler also won't do you much good, as right now we know jackshit about it. If we do indeed get the bottom-up schedule that's been rumoured for months, it'll also be long after April until you can get something (unless you SLI those of course) that'll do the trick.
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bxrdj
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2012 20:41 Post subject: |
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It is difficult to make a decision usually because of my resolution requirements, currently I can run 2560x1600 at high excellent, in both bf3 and Skyrim, but those ultra settings get very sluggish.
I am not spending 1K to get two of these either right away, but I was hoping that one might be good enough. I am also running vertex 3 drives in raid0 over sata3, 24gb of ram and an i7 overclocked to 3.8. I see a lot of people with this card posting "running ultra" reviews and I was hoping I could do the same.
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Slizza
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2012 20:42 Post subject: |
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I'd sit tight and wait if i was you.
2 of those 3gb GTX580's in SLI would do the trick nicely but that's going to be bloody expensive.
I honestly think the best thing to do is sit tight for Kepler cards.
GK104 SLi is likely going to be a beast at a reasonable price or i'll eat my hat..
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2012 21:01 Post subject: |
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I would think two 560ti's in SLI would run @ 30'' resolutions just fine.
What CPU are you running out of curiosity? CPU plays a HUGE role towards performance in BF3.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2012 21:07 Post subject: |
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The SSDs/RAID don't improve performance. The reason you can't run Ultra is because your framebuffer is too small. The game uses well over 1GB even at 1080p, so that's why it'll slow down like crazy. All the people running "Ultra" run it with MSAA turned off, and often HBAO off as well. That's not exactly ultra if you ask me, not without MSAA.
Just for the record, running 2 1GB cards in SLI doesn't give you a 2GB framebuffer (or "VRAM" as a lot of people call it). AFR requires each GPU to keep all data, so you've literally got 2x1GB (so duplicate data) and not 1x2GB. At your resolution you definitely want a card (or cards) with at least 2GB.
You could try keeping textures at high, they're the biggest memory hog, but you'll probably already hit the wall with MSAA turned on to begin with.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2012 21:11 Post subject: |
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I thought the 560Ti was more then 1GB. Seems odd they would back-step on VRAM like that.
My single GTX470 with all Ultra settings, 2x MSAA, and HBAO to the highest level runs BF3 with darn good framerates. Of course, it does have the slightly larger amount of VRAM I guess.
I do suppose that the vastly increased resolution would require far more VRAM.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2012 21:18 Post subject: |
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It's almost twice the amount of pixels (therefore requires double the memory) 
Define "darn good" framerates btw mchart, because I find it hard to believe you do a constant 45+ with that 
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2012 23:53 Post subject: |
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If you mean SLI a 560 and a 580: nope, no can do. Given the number of PhysX game in general, let alone the number worth playing with PhysX, I personally don't think it's worth keeping a 560 if you're going for a 580 anyway.
CPU swap should be painless (just reset the BIOS when you do), but to be honest a higher clockspeed would benefit more (so either OC your 920 more, or OC that 950 way beyond 3.4).
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2012 23:59 Post subject: |
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yea, im using one of my machines at work and one at home, they are both very similar just the one at work is more compact built, but has a better chip. I might just do this switch tonight ... do you think between 920 and 950 there will be noticable change?
Also I was under impression that you can mix and match cards with nvidia and the pc would pick the stronger one as promary and secondary for physics or something like that (I may be wrong on this one)
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jan 2012 00:10 Post subject: |
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| bxrdj wrote: | yea, im using one of my machines at work and one at home, they are both very similar just the one at work is more compact built, but has a better chip. I might just do this switch tonight ... do you think between 920 and 950 there will be noticable change?
Also I was under impression that you can mix and match cards with nvidia and the pc would pick the stronger one as promary and secondary for physics or something like that (I may be wrong on this one) |
You can tell it to use the second one for PhysX, yeah, but how many games do you play where PhysX really has an impact?
In 99% of all games that second card will be doing fuck all as NVIDIA doesn't do SLI with mis-matching cards even if the chip is the same (which in this case, it isn't; GF114 and GF110 - but even 570+580 doesn't work).
Just from going from a 920 to a 950 won't do anything, you really need to OC it more. BF3 is one of the few games where a quad helps, but since it's quad to quad (I'm not counting HT), it's clockspeed you want. It's also clockspeed that has the best effect on your minimum FPS
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jan 2012 18:29 Post subject: |
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ok ill wait for kepler and play with switching the chips and OC for now ... hey thanks a lot for the advice!
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Slizza
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jan 2012 18:42 Post subject: |
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| bxrdj wrote: | | ok ill wait for kepler and play with switching the chips and OC for now ... hey thanks a lot for the advice! |
Ot i'll swap you your U3011? for my U2410 and that should solve the performance issues for you.
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