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LuftBrada




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 00:19    Post subject: Dutch CoffeeShops
Is that true that as a tourist in Holland you cant buy at Coffeeshops anymore?

Thats sad if true... Good times...

I need a dutch passport.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 02:59    Post subject:
Uhm, in Amsterdam you still can (for now)
But where i live (down south) they are about to refuse anyone but Dutch people, tho (and correct me if i'm wrong) i think Germans and Belgium people are still allowed to smoke it inside the shop, just not take home.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 03:45    Post subject:
guess I'll have to visit you soon sausje... xD
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 03:47    Post subject:
Fine with me, you are paying tho ^^


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 04:06    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Uhm, in Amsterdam you still can (for now)
But where i live (down south) they are about to refuse anyone but Dutch people, tho (and correct me if i'm wrong) i think Germans and Belgium people are still allowed to smoke it inside the shop, just not take home.


Some buddies of mine had a very hard time last November in Maastricht. It was the first time since years that they got refused to enter most of the shops. Luckily, one made an exception, they bought as much as they could and headed back to their room they've rented for the weekend. (They never take something with them back to Germany. So never did I. I don't see the point and it's way more of an special event (much like a short holiday trip) if you keep it that way. Stay there, smoke as much weed as you can (or eat some shrooms) and have a good time. Then go back home sober)

Seriously, it sucks big time since I was planning go there soon. God damn... when you go there as a German for the first time.. you'll feel so relieved and it's totally unreal when you go into one of the nicer shops, order some coffee and magic cake, eat/drink and smoke a nice blunt... and then you head back to Germany.. and now this will soon be all over Sad

This fucking sucks. Really -.-


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 04:37    Post subject:
You can still come tho, if you get refused there, drop me a PM, ill come by and get you some Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 05:48    Post subject:
some one fill me in on whats happening? new law? link
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 06:32    Post subject:
MAD_MAX333 wrote:
some one fill me in on whats happening? new law? link


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/16/us-dutch-cannabis-idUSTRE7BF01020111216
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 06:45    Post subject:
HAH!
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 08:57    Post subject:
Dutch weed for real Dutchies!
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 11:48    Post subject:
Well this sux.. Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 15:44    Post subject:
Bad bad move, people here go to Netherlands just for teh weed and shrooms..you're gonna lose a lot of great customers (and ze money!) Razz



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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 16:45    Post subject:
The bad thing is not that you can't buy weed there anymore. Hell, I can get weed everywhere. It's the athmosphere that I'll miss. Not being eyeballed while smoking. Just went into those nicer shops like into a normal café. Not feeling like you are breaking a law of somekind while doing it. Just a normal everyday thing. It's such a shame Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 16:49    Post subject:
Funny thing is, now that the coffeeshops can't sell so good anymore prices will go up.
Even higher prices then now means more and more will try to get it illegal, because that is alot cheaper.

So eventually this idea will backfire.


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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Jan 2012 23:56    Post subject:
I think also that its a bad move.
I remember arriving at Amsterdam Central Station and at Red Light, you can find usually some people (usually africans, not being racist here) selling illegal drugs. They will probably start to makíng some money buying weed for tourists... Traffic is back. Thats not their objective, and Holland was a really nice model of modern view of drugs.
Dutch government is probably being pressed by the Euro Govs. to do that.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 00:08    Post subject:
Fuck the EU, they will NEVER force us to completely give it up!


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 02:55    Post subject:
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The government in October launched a plan to ban what it considered to be highly potent forms of cannabis -- known as "skunk" -- placing these in the same category as hard drugs such as heroin or cocaine.


lol that is hilariously uninformed and random.

this is bad news though, i have wanted to go see the coffee shops and hash scene there since i was a kid Sad looks like i missed my chance.
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 03:02    Post subject:
Uhm that what you quoted above is not just applying to skunk, the THC values are too high in virtually ALL weed here, if it contains more then 15% THC it will be classified as a "hard drugs".
But doubt that they will ever check, sure they might check a random few shops, but this is the least of their problems at this moment Smile


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 03:16    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Uhm that what you quoted above is not just applying to skunk, the THC values are too high in virtually ALL weed here, if it contains more then 15% THC it will be classified as a "hard drugs".
But doubt that they will ever check, sure they might check a random few shops, but this is the least of their problems at this moment Smile


oh it sounded like they randomly decided to ban skunk and not something else like white widow or kush. 15% doesnt seem that high to me to be 'too high' either. especially in a country where real hash is available so easily. do you go to the shops often sausje?
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 03:22    Post subject:
Not anymore, due to low cash, but yea i smoke for 11 years weed now Smile
And if i have the money for it (usually once per month) i get myself 5 gram White Widow type (silver shadow, snow white and alot of other names it has) that last me 1 evening Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 03:49    Post subject:
sounds like a nice evening Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 11:20    Post subject:
Id rather go to Christiana anyday than Amsterdam

Awesome place with some of the best Hash ever!
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 11:25    Post subject:
I'd like to try vaporizing it sometime.. I don't like the act of smoking at all. Eating it in brownies was very nice, but you need quite a lot more so it's not exactly "economical".


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 11:46    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
I'd like to try vaporizing it sometime.. I don't like the act of smoking at all. Eating it in brownies was very nice, but you need quite a lot more so it's not exactly "economical".


Using smokable herb-mixes (or even tea) instead of tobacco or smoke it pure (quite costly though) would be your answer then. Nonetheless, tobacco is quite the booster and pretty important to many smokers.

Using a Vaporizer is quite costly imho (same as smoking only pure) and also doesn't kick in that fast as it does with tobacco.


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 11:51    Post subject:
Hm, I read up on it once, seemed that the ammount people were vaporizing seemed really little, quite a bit less than 0.5g - considering I had to eat around 1g to get a very good effect, it seems a little better than eating atleast Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 11:58    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Hm, I read up on it once, seemed that the ammount people were vaporizing seemed really little, quite a bit less than 0.5g - considering I had to eat around 1g to get a very good effect, it seems a little better than eating atleast Smile


Well, that always depends on the person. I'm quite blessed with being stoned very very fast. Takes me only 2-3 inhales (dunno the right word for it in english) and I'm baked but still can smoke all day long nonetheless. At least until I fall asleep from being overrelaxed Very Happy
So I always lived pretty cheap when it came to weed. Many of my friends are quite jelly about that Laughing

I could propably Vaporize too, but I just love to smoke my sticks with little tobacco and some tasty-sweet herbs/teas. Oh and Honey-Blunts So Much Win


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 13:35    Post subject:
^

I agree, Honey blunts nomnom


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 13:38    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Hm, I read up on it once, seemed that the ammount people were vaporizing seemed really little, quite a bit less than 0.5g - considering I had to eat around 1g to get a very good effect, it seems a little better than eating atleast Smile


1g for a "very good effect"? Either you did something wrong (use *much* fat for baking - don`t make dishes that need to much heat), the weed was horribly bad or you consider "lying on the floor unable to move" as a good effect.

You actually need *less* weed for baking/vaporizing for the same effect. The THC doesn`t "burn" like it does when you smoke. The high is different though - you don`t have that tobacco flash at the start, it kicks in more subtly (and if you don`t pay attention and take to much it will be even much much more intense later on).
And it`s *very* important what you use. I always prefered a relaxed sativa high...
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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 13:56    Post subject:
Yeah it really is important which one you use. New years eve i baked some for friends where i was celebrating with and some of them never took before. Instead of a laugh fest most of them got extremely tired lol

Needless to say i had no problems whatsoever. Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 14:39    Post subject:
I gotta admit I don't know exactly how much ended up in each cake, could have been signifcantly less than 1g Razz I'm a bad cook as it is, and all I did was to melt hash in butter, at a very low temperature (I know very well heat disspiates the THC), then baked them in the oven. And yeah, it does go up, stays there, and then down quite slow, but that doesn't bother me at all Smile What I like the most os that the peak lasts quite a lot longer than smoking.. and the fact that I don't have to smoke anything Razz

I've only smoked four-five times and eaten it once (though it was divided by three times/three separate days, from the same pan of brownies).
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