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meh...figures..taken from the official site...
Originally Posted by StephenReid
Hey everyone, thanks for bearing with us as we investigated the concerns raised here.
After investigation, it seems that the confusion here is a combination of a UI issue that's been resolved and a feature that's working as intended, but the reason why it's 'working as intended' needs explanation.
First, the UI issue. The preferences menu as it is seen on the Public Test Server for version 1.1 of the game is correct - there are only supposed to be two texture choices, 'Low' and 'High'. This replaces the original three-choice preference of Low/Medium/High because in reality, there was never supposed to be a 'Medium' choice - that was a bug.
Here's where we need to explain. As many of you have noted, your character in the game world is rendered using lower resolution textures than inside of cinematic conversation scenes. This was a deliberate decision by the development team. To understand why this was done, I have to briefly talk about MMOs and their engines.
In comparison to single player games and other genres of multiplayer online games, MMOs have much higher variability in the number of characters that can be potentially rendered on-screen at the same time. In MMOs, even though most of the time you'll see a relatively small number of characters on screen, there are certain situations in which many more characters will be seen. Some examples of these situations include popular gathering places in-game (in our case, the two fleets), Operations with large teams, and Warzones. In those scenarios the client (and your PC) has to work hard to show off a lot of characters on-screen.
During development and testing of The Old Republic, our priorities were to ensure the game looked great and performed well. In testing, we discovered that using our 'maximum resolution' textures on in-game characters during normal gameplay could cause severe performance issues, even on powerful PCs. There were a variety of possible options to help improve performance, but one that was explored and ultimately implemented used what is known as a 'texture atlas'.
To understand that I've got to get technical for a minute. When a character in the game is 'seen' by another character - ie, gets close to your field of view - the client has to 'draw' that character for you to see. As the character is 'drawn' for you there are a number of what are known as 'draw calls' where the client pulls information from the repository it has on your hard disk, including textures, and then renders the character. Every draw call that is made is a demand on your PC, so keeping that number of draw calls low per character is important. With our 'maximum resolution' textures a large number of draw calls are made per character, but that wasn't practical for normal gameplay, especially when a large number of characters were in one place; the number of draw calls made on your client would multiply very quickly. The solution was to 'texture atlas' - essentially to put a number of smaller textures together into one larger texture. This reduces the number of draw calls dramatically and allows the client to render characters quicker, which improves performance dramatically.
When it comes to cinematic scenes, however, characters are rendered using the higher number of draw calls and maximum resolution textures. This is because in those scenes, we have control over exactly how many characters are rendered and can ensure that the game performs well. The transition between 'atlas textured' characters (out of cinematics) and 'maximum resolution' textures (in cinematics) is mostly hidden by the transition between those two states (when the screen goes black), but obviously it's clear if you pay close attention.
In summary; yes, we had a small UI bug that unfortunately caused confusion over how the game is intended to work. The textures you're seeing in the course of normal gameplay are optimized for that mode of play. The textures you're seeing during cinematics are also optimized for that mode of play. They are higher resolution, but that's because we're able to control cinematic scenes to ensure good performance in a way we can't during normal gameplay.
We understand the passion and desire for people to see the same textures you see in our cinematic scenes in the main game. Because of the performance issues that would cause for the client, that's not an immediate and easy fix; we need to ensure we're making choices that the majority of our players will be able to benefit from. Having 'atlassed textures' helps performance overall, and that's a very important goal for us.
With that said, we've heard your feedback here loud and clear. The development team is exploring options to improve the fidelity of the game, particularly for those of you with high-spec PCs. It will be a significant piece of development work and it won't be an overnight change, but we're listening and we're committed to reacting to your feedback.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 12:11 Post subject: |
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Note that you can leave the starter planet before level 10. You just need to finish your class quest on it (Technically you don't even need to do that, but you should).
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 12:17 Post subject: |
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| dezztroy wrote: | | Note that you can leave the starter planet before level 10. You just need to finish your class quest on it (Technically you don't even need to do that, but you should). |
Yeah but if you start the game a new, like they do, i highly suggest doing the whole planet ^^. + Sure you can move on to the next planet earelier, but you'd be heavily gimped and outlevelled by the enemies lol, so whats the point in that ?
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 14:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 15:46 Post subject: |
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Oh well, canceled my sub now. There is just to much stuff that annoys me atm.
The non-existant customer service. The amount of bugs. The cheap excuses made by Bioware about some issues (Performance, High-Res textures..).
Unfinished features (Legacy of example). The lack of endgame content (Which is only temporary, but it's keeping me from hitting max level. There is not the slightest motivation for me to do it at the current state)
It's a shame cause the game surely is fun but could have used some more developement time.
Gonna take a peek again around march/april I guess.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 17:05 Post subject: |
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I haven't really found many bugs myself - it's the game itself that stops me from playing any more. Making groups is painful, chat room is as good as dead, quests are starting to get dull and combat has barely changed the past 10 hours. Sure, the abilities are fun to use in a way, but there's not enough challenge and tactics possible due to how enemy AI works and how the maps are laid out.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 18:27 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 20:30 Post subject: |
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Sigh. For someone with the handle "Revan" you don't know much about the lore, eh? Tut tut tut.
Mutants != zombies.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 20:34 Post subject: |
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Pretty good trailer. Love the dead space vibe, heh.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 21:00 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Sigh. For someone with the handle "Revan" you don't know much about the lore, eh? Tut tut tut.
Mutants != zombies. |
you should listen to last words of the trailer.. and if then you try to claim this isnt zombie cash in with " mutant " name on it...
since mutation is real thing, and zombies arent, for some reason we didnt had a god damn mutant apocalypse when Chernobyl went baboom..
bite + infection= zombies.. call it whatever you like
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 21:07 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: | | sabin1981 wrote: | Sigh. For someone with the handle "Revan" you don't know much about the lore, eh? Tut tut tut.
Mutants != zombies. |
you should listen to last words of the trailer.. and if then you try to claim this isnt zombie cash in with " mutant " name on it...
since mutation is real thing, and zombies arent, for some reason we didnt had a god damn mutant apocalypse when Chernobyl went baboom..
bite + infection= zombies.. call it whatever you like |
So you're saying they should just pretend Rakghouls didn't exist in the Star Wars lore?
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 21:19 Post subject: |
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They exist, but Bioware is turning them into plain old "bite you and you turn zombies". The horde is upon us!Whatever shall we do? Oh yea, Hearthstone back to the fleet.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 21:32 Post subject: |
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| Revan6999 wrote: | | They exist, but Bioware is turning them into plain old "bite you and you turn zombies". The horde is upon us!Whatever shall we do? Oh yea, Hearthstone back to the fleet. |
Spoiler: They haven't changed since KOTOR.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 22:12 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Sigh. For someone with the handle "Revan" you don't know much about the lore, eh? Tut tut tut.
Mutants != zombies. |
They are mutants but the video is designed like a zombie movie trailer, and the effect they do is a whole hell of a lot like zombification.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 22:14 Post subject: |
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It doesn't matter, the fact is this has nothing to do with zombies. There ae enough things to complain about regarding SWTOR (if the hatred brigade is to be believed) but making a stink because of rakghouls, which are already established in the SW franchise and lore, is idiotic and just smacks of desperation.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2012 22:32 Post subject: |
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The trailer made me mad because of other things like, for example, showing cutscene footage only so the textures are sharp.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Jan 2012 13:15 Post subject: |
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on taris, when you fight Rakghouls, you get a stackable debuff on your endurance (each stack 1% of your health i think it was). So you definitly get weaker hehe. + When you play the taris quests through, you actually find an antidote of sorts, so you now NOT turning makes sense (since YOU are immun against now)
Sometimes playing the "optional" story lines of the planets pays out ^^
edit : "not" lol.
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Except maybe a 10 second effect or something like that 
