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Was lookin for a new monitor,a 23" one..was lookin mainly for Samsung coz of it's design..
Found this Samsung one ,s23a300b ,for around 170€/$...heard that if the monitor has HDMI but has NO speakers is not worth getting the HDMI cable but using a DVI instead..the Samsung monitor i was lookin for mainly (200€/$) contained HDMI but a VGA connector and NOT a DVI..)
with my DVI and GPU,would i notice 720/1080p quality movies' quality?..also,i have a Logitech G5 (Blue) mouse without any DPI/Setpoint modifications...will there be any problem with the mouse speed with the new monitor?
I dont say a word about games i think coz...my Rig's already ready for that shit ...i think <<....i mean,if a game cant reach the new monitor's resolution,it'll go lesser but still Great,ne? <<...no black borders?
In other words....Worth the change...or should i keep my actual one?
PS: i also use Photoshop CS5.1 and design programs/videos...not just games..so i think that would be a small plus?
PS2: I saw the monitor's controls are tactile..do you guys think that,with time,the controls might not work or something?...
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Grab the LG then, its not so expensive. Not as good as the Dell but still kick crap out those Sammy TN screens you're looking at.
As for your question about resolution, Yes your DVI will go up to and well beyond a monitor at 1920 x 1080 native resolution.
HDMI is often limited to a 1920 x 1080 res depending on revision.
Deffo try get one of these E-IPS screens over a low end TN.
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but ...it looks a bit ugly..had an LG in the past =w=;...didnt liked its design
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Guess it's a preference of mine?..tell me the differences tween both monitors and the why..LG i had was a Flatron and it was just plain simple design..Samsung on the other hand has piano reflex like..or something..
thou i guess the LG's TALLER due to the base i guess...
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Guess it's a preference of mine?..tell me the differences tween both monitors and the why..LG i had was a Flatron and it was just plain simple design..Samsung on the other hand has piano reflex like..or something..
thou i guess the LG's TALLER due to the base i guess...
So just because you think it looks less flashy (because that's what it is), you're going to ignore the fact that the IPS236V has better colours, contrast, black levels and brightness than that Samsung thing? :S
Guess it's a preference of mine?..tell me the differences tween both monitors and the why..LG i had was a Flatron and it was just plain simple design..Samsung on the other hand has piano reflex like..or something..
thou i guess the LG's TALLER due to the base i guess...
So just because you think it looks less flashy (because that's what it is), you're going to ignore the fact that the IPS236V has better colours, contrast, black levels and brightness than that Samsung thing? :S
You forgot to mention the infinitely better viewing angles. No more colour shifting every time you move your head like on TN lol
I recommended the LG IPS231P rather than the IPS236V as the former has a better stand and a matte finish rather than gloss.
Other than that they are pretty much the same panel.
@DV2 you should be looking at the eye candy on screen and not the monitors frame lol
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Don't go for the LG monitors. I tried both, both suck. They feel cheap and the cheaper model has one of the worst stands I have seen. Either save up some money and get the Dell, or don't bother.
Sadly,Dell is not sold in where i live..my actual Samsung is great lookin n stuff...even i keep the sticker from it! ..tought newer monitors would be better looking and all the stuff...specially 1080p etc..
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Sadly,Dell is not sold in where i live..my actual Samsung is great lookin n stuff...even i keep the sticker from it! ..tought newer monitors would be better looking and all the stuff...specially 1080p etc..
That's because it's a top review site.
What about the ViewSonic VP2365wb?
You seem more interested in the design of the screens housing than the screen itself.
If i was to buy a laptop, i wouldn't buy one with crap components instead of one with good components because i liked the design of the case better.
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Obviously the Dell is better, but is it that much better to justify it's price difference? I think not.
I think so yes. Obviously I have much more experience with the Dell, I own it, but I had the opportunity to see and try all three. The Dell has better build quality, better picture quality and more mechanical options.
well my actual Samsung 206BW looks great and had no prob,and all the games i played looked like the screenshots on the net n stuff..i guess....
the only annoyin thing?...dead red pixel at the top center of the screen...my monitor eh
sorry ,got used to see Samsung everywhere and i guess that's the only option i have to choose...there are 2 HP monitors but their looking might look futuristic ,but the coolest? one is the X2301 for 200€..thou i dunno the differences...but i've read the monitor has reflecting crystal and...that's not goodie..
Not trying to troll nor anything just because i mention Samsung over n over...but again,i look for monitor design AND quality..again,Samsung didnt failed...LG's look's not my type of look and we dun have Dell
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Got this one two days ago to replace the failing 226CW one I had earlier - http://www.dustinhome.se/samsung-syncmaster-s24a850dw-24-wide-tft-led-black/product/5010603461 - so far I'm very impressed with it, was between that and the Dell UltraSharp something but I went with this as they had a pretty hefty discount when I ordered last week (It's still relatively cheap from that site as it hovers between 4500 - 6000 SEK.)
Would probably still translate as ~200 Eur or some such though, still some of those high-end monitors come close to ~1000 or above but probably have special features or standards, Eizo comes up fairly often.
Reviews and criticism have been pretty mixed but I found the monitor to be excellent, also very little so called backlight problems and no issues with calibrating it though it has some downsides of course.
(Samsung variant of the IPS panel also, don't know much about it.)
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All TN screens have washed out colours to varying degrees of bad...
I don't think you have looked at a IPS to compare and see how bad TN really is in comparison.
I bought a DELL U2410 8 bit IPS screen and looking at the other TN based screens side by side just makes them look plain bad and not worth using.
Dude at bit wrote a mass of info on monitor buying that you should read and get a idea of what you are buying.
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]Everything About Monitor - Guide
]About
This article talks about all the basics of monitors, and explains all the different technology type.
It is aimed at non-professionals. It assumes the market situation of when this article was written, and assumes that the monitor being looked to purchase is under 1000$ U.S/Canadian.
It is important to note that I highly recommend to check reviews of a monitor before purchasing.
Everything mentioned is generalized. They are always exceptions in the monitor market, where a monitor, for example, can unperformed, where it doesn't offer what you would expect to do. So it important to check reviews before purchasing.
This guide will not talk how each monitor technology works exactly. They are many articles on the web on those. To make things simple and more helpful, only advantages and disadvantage of each monitor technology is presented.
]Terminologies
Before we start, it is important to know what certain specification means. This will allow you to better understand what the specification means, so that you can take better choose a monitor that fits your needs.
Response Time
[INDENT]Response time is a measurement done by the monitor manufacture, which involve switching a pixel from one color to another, and measure the time it takes to do this task. The faster it is at doing this task, the faster the LCD monitor is at drawing, and the less you will see ghosting.
Lower the response time value, the better. However, this technique has no standard measuring method.
Professional line monitor do follow a standard, they call the measurement B-to-W, or Black-to-White. Where perfect black and perfect white is used as the 2 color of choice to measure the monitor speed. Taking the 2 extremes of color, takes more time to reach the other color, so showing values like 16ms, which looks bad, but is actually very good. At the non-professional monitor market.. it's more marketing. So in depth reviews is what is best to look for. non-professional line monitor usually never give you the black to white measurement, but rather G-to-G or Gray-to-Gray. This is taking 1 gray color, and see how fast the monitor takes in showing a different gray.
But what gray is used? That is the problem, and that is why this value is essentially worthless. There are no standard in which gray colors to choose. So manufacture simply use what they want (usually the fastest for the monitor). In addition, the other gray color, can simply be a hint different, or might as well be the same gray. Great! now you have 1ms monitors! So it's all about showing the lowest value on the box, and hope you think that it's ultra fast, and "great for gaming", and you buy it. But end up being any normal 10-12 or even 16ms, and get ghosting everywhere, and then you think you need faster than 1 ms. What's next? 0ms (black to black (black is a very dark gray). How did they achieve this? they did not even turn on the monitor. Seriously now, that is why checking in depth reviews that shows the speed is important.
Also something to know, is the more vertical lines of pixels you have, the slower the response time. Why? Because the monitor draws 1 line at the time from the top to bottom. As the response time is when a pixel changes from 1 color to another, the time for the monitor to draw the rest of the screen is taking into account (unless the manufacture decides to exclude that time, to reach lower numbers)
The drawing of top to bottom of an LCD monitor, is something we can see in action:
That is why you can have fast motion games, you have this that can happen:
Split in 2!
(unless you force the graphic card to limit the image output to the monitor refresh rate.. so 60fps for a 60Hz, so that the monitor has time to draw every frame and avoid the picture above. This system is called VSync, see game option to turn it on or off).
So, higher the Hz, the faster the monitor takes in drawing each line. However the time the pixel turns to show the right color is the response time. As the monitor takes more time to draw every line vertically, the response time measurement is also affected.
Example of response time, and how reviews are important to check:
We have here the Dell U2410 measured by TFTCentral. The Dell U2410 has a 6ms response time G-to-G, and uses a technology that is slower than a "gamer class" monitor, it's 1920x1200 resolution (so 1200 vertical lines).
Very good. Now, let's look at a 1ms response time monitor. As it is 1ms, we expect that this one is 6 times faster, right?! In addition, this monitor uses a super fast "gamer-class" monitor technology called TN (explained bellow): The ViewSonic VX2739wm, 27inch, 1920x1080. While the screen is bigger, it does not mater as the resolution is close to the same. This is 1080 vertical lines... so it has LESS vertical lines then the U2410 which has 1200. So, we expect even greater results.... WOW, compared to the above it must not show any ghosting what's so ever. Should be great!
Oh! ... what a disappointment. With everything on it's side to be ultra fast, it failed to beat the U2410. It's a bit slower than the U2410.
That is why I say, don't get fooled with the numbers. Check reviews!
Dynamic Contrast Ratio
[indent]This is the "fake" contrast ratio measurement, if you will. Let me explain:
Due to the back light, most panels except select MVA panels and some PVA panels (all explain later what they are, but in short, they have the ability to block the back light better than any other technologies on black), the monitor is limited to about 1000:1 contrast ratio. To boost that value, the monitor can play with the brightness of the back light based on the picture displayed to increase that ratio. So on a dark scene, the back light diminishes to minimum to make is easier to see the hard to see details, and on white and bright image, boosts the back light to maximize, to provide a more "realistic" feel (kinda like the sun, acting on the environment) and make explosion in movies "pop" more.
By default, dynamic contrast ratio is disabled on computer monitors (TV it's enabled), else every time you open a folder window or web browser, you become blinded by the back light.
As it requires to go inside menus few bother enabling it before watching a movie or playing a game, so it ends up few uses it. So, a 1000000000000000000000000000000: 1 contrast ratio feature can be ignored.
Plus, this feature affects the whole screen, and not regions, so a street light at night will look like bland and weak on your screen, when dynamic contrast ration is enabled.
Some mid-high range last generation CRT (the monitor with the big tube on the back) where able to do this feature accurately. They usually had a button on the monitor to enable it. NEC called it Super Bright Mode. It make the cathode cannon boost in intensity when drawing the pixels that were brighter... so in a game.. a sun.. looked like a SUN, and rest of the image was not affected. only that specific spot was bright. It was awesome! Sadly this is gone due to LCD technology limitation. In the case you don't know how a CRT works, it's basically the cathode cannon on the back of the tube output light to draw each pixel, row by row, and the phosphor on the glass are where you see the picture, in the tube, allows to keep the retain the light for some time. Hence, why old CRT's, and cheap ones are flickering fest as the phosphor either aged to a point that it didn't retain light, or is so cheap quality that it does not retain light for a long time.
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LED Monitor/Display
[indent]It's all about LED displays, these days. What's all the rave? W00t! Well no... no W00t.
It's actually a down side. But it's also a up side. It depends on the situation. But before I start on this.
What is LED Monitors?
It's Marketing B.S. All it means is that the back light is using white LED's instead of a CCFL lamp to illuminate the LCD panel. That is right! There is no LED's that small. LCD's don't emit light, and needs a source of light on the back for us to see the light filtration done by the LCD panel, which allows us to see an image. They are 2 technologies popular these days. White LED's, and CCFL.
This is an LED Display in reality:
It a bit hard to play games with it
Perfect (or close to it) white LED's don't exists, they are usually light blue color.
Of course, higher end the monitor, the better the white LED's are (closer to white)... but usually it's not very good, unless you are seriously cashing out a lot of money, and EVEN THEN.
The advantage of the white LED's is that they consume less power, so it's great for laptops, and mobile devices. However, on a desktop monitor, for home.. I highly doubt it you will notice a worth wile reduction in your power bills, unless your electricity is seriously expensive as gold.
Another advantage is that white LED's are usually positioned at the bottom of the monitor, while a CCFL lamp is placed on the back. This shows bit better blacks, as the light are away from the panel. However, depending on the panel technology you buy, it can make no difference, as the panel technology is good enough to block most of the light on blacks, so blacks are very good. In addition, some people complain a flickering effect with them (I see it on my laptop, especially that it's not glossy.. you see all the faults), and light distribution isn't as good as a CCFL lamps. Usually the bottom is brighter (where most white LED's powered monitor LED's are placed)
So CCFL for desktop is the best? Better whites, no flickering visible for those with sensitive eyes? Yes and no. CCFL have different grades.. cheap one (which is what most people used for many years before, and that why white LED's look superior), where the white is very warm. So all colors and whites appears on the warm side... also they have a long full brightness time delay. Where the lamp takes time to illuminate at full power.
High grade CFL lamps provides shows wonderful whites, which makes everything else looks better, and while there is still a warm up time.. it starts near at max illumination (about (visually measures by me... nothing scientific) 95-97% illumination, and gradually reach 100%, which makes that not visible to you).
So it depends on your needs. But usually, I think, for most people here on this forum, going high grade CFL is a worthy direction to take.
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Glossy monitors (panel)
[indent]Glossy film is used by many manufacture to try to compensate down side of a budget class monitor. Matte films used on panel distorted light, so text is less sharp by a few small percentage, and colors appear more washed out. So, manufactures needs to compensate this.. which they can.. but that cost money. Making the monitor a lot more expensive.So they used glossy film.. it does not distorted light, blacks looks better, and color more "vivid".
However the cost? Well, it reflects everything, and you can't focus on your work, so usually you increase the light brightness, which consumes more power (especially for laptops), and hurt your eyes, all to to try and compensate the reflection so that you can see your screen. Plus you see any dust particle and finger print... To me, I think it's simply not worth it. Buy matte with a good monitor, and you get great image, and don't battle with your screen.
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Color count
[indent]They are 3 color set model that exists for computer monitor on the wide market today: 6-bit, 8-bit and 10-bit colors (they are higher ones, such as 12 and 16-bit, but these are really expensive and are very specialized monitors). What does all this means?
By default (and this is standard) your computer, your graphic card (including Intel graphic solution), and your software, including games, are designed to support 8-bit colors. If they outputted only 6-bit colors pictures would look like this:
Instead of:
When we say "this is a 8-bit panel" it means that the panel can produce 8-bit colors per channel... in other words Red x Green x Blue = (2^8 x 2^8 x 2^8 = 256 x 256 x 256 = 16,777,216 colors).
TN panels, and very entry level IPS and PVA panels are all 6-bit panels. That means that the panel can only produce: (2^6 x 2^6 x 2^6 = 64 x 64 x 64 = 262,144 colors).
WAIT A second! You say, and add: The box CLEARLY state 16.7 million colors... what the pineapple are you talking about Crazy Bytes?
The monitor emulates the missing colors. The way it does that, is that it it takes 2 colors that it can do and switch between them really quickly to imitate the color it cannot do, and hopes to trick your eyes in seeing the correct color. This is called FRC (Frame Rate Control).
So, will 6-bit IPS panel look like the same crap as TN panels?, you ask.
No. First IPS panels, as it's not aimed at the budget market.. not yet, at the moment, they feature a higher grade LCD liquid used for better color filtration to provide better colors. Also, the monitor has a color processor and not a pre-set circuit. This means, that the color processor analyses the color, and your monitor settings to properly choose 2 (or even 3) appropriate colors and adjusts the rate of color switch to better fool your eyes. In fact, the Dell U2311H, a 6-bit panel, did such a good job, it fooled all reviewers in thinking it was a true 8-bit panel. It is after LG (the actual panel inside) releases the official specs sheet: http://www.hy-line.de/fileadmin/hy-l...30WF2-SLC1.pdf, that it was found to be a 6-bit panel.
A true professional, or someone who are used to an 8-bit colors per channel (red, green and blue are called channels), can identify more easily the difference between the two (I mean for a case like the U2311H... TN panels are night and day different, even compared to the best TN panel out there), especially after sitting down and taking your time in looking at it. Side-by-side to a true 8-bit panel, the difference between a 6-bit panels and 8-bit is visible.
True 8-bit panels are not widely purchased as it costs "too much" (more like, cheaper than a decent 17inch CRT monitor, nothing fancy... so I am not complaining. I think it's a good price)
So, will 10-bit panels be better? Yes, of course.. BUT, well for one it's not cheap. Second, you need EVERYTHING from point A to Z to be 10-bit compliant to enjoy 10-bit colors. This means:
The OS supports 10-bit colors (Windows 7 does)
The software that you use, supports 10-bit colors (example: PhotoShop)
The graphic card support 10-bit colors.
The graphic card drivers support and enables from the GPU 10-bit colors.
Display Port connection is used to connect the graphic card to the monitor (no converters/adapters used). DVI is limited to 8-bit colors, unless the resolution is lowered to provide it sufficient bandwidth to output 10-bit colors, Display Port can do 10-bit colors just fine at any resolution.
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Missing terms to be added soon:
- View angle
- Portrait/landscape mode
- LUT (Look Up Table)
- Color Processor
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LCD's monitors have different technologies in displaying the image it received. We have TN, IPS, MVA, PVA, and many sub technologies, like H-IPS, S-IPS, cPVA, and so on. I won't go into these sub technologies, as the variation are minimal. It worth looking only if you look for something really specific, like bets color display, or fastest speed. among a certain type of panel. But checking reviews of, will tell you straight these things, so it's not really worth mentioning. Usually the difference is minute.
TN (Twisted Nematic)
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Up's
Inexpensive
Low input lag (mainly due to the lack of color processor, and other components skipped)
Fast response time
120Hz monitor as an option exists
Stereoscopic 3D ready option exists in this panel technology for the computer desktop/laptop monitor.
Down's
The ultra budget monitors are using TN panels, so it is important to be careful on what to purchase. They are budget "gamer" class screens as well. The budget monitor section of TN have very low build quality, and have low features (of course, they are exceptions).
The market TN panel is aimed at is very competitive, so prices are low. Something has to give to achieve such low prices. This can/does create products that might provide good visuals (for a non-professionals, of courses), but the stand and the rest of the product is cheap quality. Also, usually, after sale service (warranty claim/service) is low as well.
View angle limited, however the high-end TN panels, does provide decent view angle horizontal, it is however, like any other TN panel, weak vertically.
Back light bleeding visible on blacks and affects all colors.
Bland colors, or over-saturated one (tries to compensate for it's weakness).
A TN panel can have poor contrast (dark grays are blended as black, and light gray are blended as white), this can make a monitor look on store shelf, better than the reality, are a common effect from TN panels.
Not very sharp compared to other technologies out there. This is due that the pixels aren't properly filled to allow light to pass.
All TN panels are 6-bit panel.
High end TN panels, can be more expensive than an entry level IPS panels, which currrently are still better than TN panels.
For big players of first person shooters games, as reaction time it important for them, a fast monitor is needed. TN monitor delivers. To get such high response time from any other panel technology a lot of money needs to be invested to reach higher, faster range series. While TN low-end model can achieve this no problem. Additionally, TN panels are great for casual computer users, who uses the computer a lot less than us, or do a lot of text based work, and don't care about colors as much as others. The increase sharpness of a IPS and PVA panel over TN is interesting advantage over TN panels, but the price doesn't justify it, and at a landscape view, the sharpness increase is very small, won't be really noticeable.
High end TN panels have greatly improved in the recent years in term of output image quality, but as mentioned, the price is very close, or even above an entry level IPS panels or MVA panels, which can be more interesting to people. In my opinion, getting a high-end TN panel, is for people who games a lot, and want a bit better colors, but colors aren't priority,
Sharper than TN panels, but not as good as IPS panels
Down's
Usually the same price as an equivalent IPS panel.
View angle limitation is short like TN panels. But instead (like TN panels) of shifting the colors, only the contrast is being affected.
No color processor to my knowledge
Colors are equally as bad as TN panels
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IPS (In-Plane Switching)
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Up's
Same price as MVA panel more or less, for the same actual color count panel (example: 6-bit panel with 6-bit panel).
Produces much better blacks than TN panels, but not as good as MVA or PVA panels
Last gen IPS panels provide fast response time but not as fast a TN, but faster than most MVA panels.
Last gen IPS panels are great for gaming and fast action movies. IPS panels did HUGE step forward in that department without any sacrifice. In the old days, IPS panels, like PVA panel's where way to slow for even casual gaming, unless you cash some serious money, and even then.
Color processor is used for most computer monitor.
Wide view angle (178 degree in ALL angles (including diagonals, so if you ever want to put your monitor in an angle.. well no problem). This is a great feature, as you can be anywhere in the room (except behind the screen, obviously), and sit the way you want, without constantly adjusting the monitor to get the perfect view angle. Bigger the monitor, the more annoying TN short view angle is.
Sharp pixels, so text is very easy to read
8 and 10-bit true color panel option exists for potentially (depending on the manufacture default calibration) better colors than the available 6-bit panel option.
While it is starting to emerge slowly. Most monitors aren't aimed at budget market, so you usually get a good quality product for the price, and proper back light (high grade white LED's, or high grade CCFL lamp)
Usually you get a better warranty and after sale service from these higher end model, as this kind of service is paid in part from the higher price tag.
Down's
Matte IPS screens, up close on white's shows a tinny bit of a grain effect due to the matte film on the panel. At about a normal distance, this is not visible, and in my opinion, easy to get used to as it's not visible from a proper distance. Higher end IPS panels might not have this issue at all.
More expensive
Not as fast as TN panel
Due to the color processor, is has more input lag than MVA and TN panels. But, many IPS panels, have a "game" mode which makes the color processor skip any processing, which reduces significantly it's input lag, if that is ever an issue. Me, like about all IPS owner here, don't see any issue in using normal settings. But, there isn't any hard core FPS players here with these panels.
Anti-glare coating used on IPS panels can be too aggressive, which while it's great is the monitor is close to a window or string light source, it creates a crystal like affect visible the most on whites, and very up close. Most people get used to it, as it's only visible when you are very (too much?) close to the monitor, or choose a monitor with a less aggressive coating used
IPS panels shows a glaring light (like back light bleeding), when looking at angles on black. This effect is more visible the most on large monitors (27inch+). However, the glaring effect doesn't affect colors, and not visible under a normal computer usage, even on a page like Bit-tech.net where the sides are blacks, and you are looking at the monitor properly (not at extreme angles), in a low light environment. As you need to be a specific situation to see it the most and affect your experience, it's usually not an issue for most. Some people prefer to go with a *VA panel to avoid this problem.
Anti-glare panels shows this effect more, as the texture diffuses the light more then a glossy panel. But, it must be understood that a glossy coating, doesn't eliminate the problem, just reduces it a bit.
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IPS panels got MUCH faster over the years. However, if you want the fastest IPS panel possible to reach a close feeling to a TN panel and even beating most of them including gaming class TN panels, then you'll need to pay more. If First Person Shooter games is not your priority, and you are more in other or multi-genre games, then it is a great choice to consider. However, it must be notes, it doesn't mean that entry-level IPS panel should be out. Today, entry-level IPS panels are still very fast for game and fast action movies, just not as fast as TN. Assuming you are on a limited budget where you can't afford a higher end IPS panel, you sacrifice a bit of performance for mostly wide view angle, and better colors (assuming that the slight increase in input lag is not an issue for you).
IPS panels is an very good choice, for those who are using a TN panel monitor or MVA, and are seeking for something a lot better visually, where the downside doesn't affect them, or are willing to pay more to compensate the most to reduce the technology downsides.
PVA (Patterned vertical alignment)
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Up's
Superb blacks
Polarized PVA panels, provides incredible blacks even on angles, and the panel grid is also not visible at all.
Best at color reproduction (assuming that the monitor is properly calibrated, with a color calibrator)
Down's
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[*] Most expensive technology panel (they are sub models like Samsung cPVA, which are cheap.. but these are so bad, I am ignoring them)
[*] Slowest panel technology (high response time)
[*] Highest input lag for most models
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PVA panels are really designed for professional who need pin-point accurate colors. However, IPS panels is now getting a larger market in that area, as higher end and better IPS panel can be made (obviously more expensive), which compete with PVA nicely. Of course, these IPS panels are slower, especially that they are not made for gaming or watching movies, at all.
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Are they other panel technologies out there?
Yes, but for desktop/laptop monitor, the large part, and most likely to encounter, is the above ones.
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dv2, where you from and what you doing with your old monitor, id give it a happy home since mine broke and im currently using a friggin 15" 4:3 crt monitor! omg.
i decided to not change the monitor in the end...the screen's NOT "taller",just wider...i see it's for widescreen movies and some gaming maybe but...jesus..nope....sides,so many headaches for this n that in quality n stuff ><;;;;;;;;;
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i decided to not change the monitor in the end...the screen's NOT "taller",just wider...i see it's for widescreen movies and some gaming maybe but...jesus..nope....sides,so many headaches for this n that in quality n stuff ><;;;;;;;;;
A 23" *is* taller than your 206 BW - at least the screen itself is. My FS2332 is a good 13mm or so taller than my old 206 BW. A 16:9 22" is exactly as tall as your 16:10 206 BW.
sure is noticeable,the height...but i guess it's because of the STAND..but it also says the monitor's height's a bit taller (MONITOR,not the "screen")
But then the S23A350H model's prob is...it does NOT have DVI port for my 460GTX 1GB..but the thing is..the 460GTX has a "Mini HDMI" port (i think) and an HDMI "Adapter" (Mini HDMI -> HDMI)..thou i dunno if the "adapter" is a good idea since you're transforming Mini to HDMI and quality may totally vary..
Also,as someone mentioned above,HDMI has a "Limit" of 1920x1080...
I dunno what to say..sides,some people experimented big probs with the HDMI cable instead of the DVI but that on LCD screens,like blue and green lights around stuff or WORSE (THIS )...it's just i hope i dont get the same shit with a LED
...yes,thinkin of gettin one of these S23A350H...but the HDMI shit worries me,so the Mini-HDMI...or something,WHATEVER! *lil drama*
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sure is noticeable,the height...but i guess it's because of the STAND..but it also says the monitor's height's a bit taller (MONITOR,not the "screen")
Again, why the fuck do you give a shit about the monitor's height? The screen is taller, that's all that should matter - unless you're looking for a monitor with extremely thin bezels for Eyefinity/Surround, which you're not.
If I could be bothered, I'd put my 206 BW next to my Eizo for you, but I can't
DV2 wrote:
But then the S23A350H model's prob is...it does NOT have DVI port for my 460GTX 1GB..but the thing is..the 460GTX has a "Mini HDMI" port (i think) and an HDMI "Adapter"..thou i dunno if the "adapter" is a good idea since you're transforming DVI to HDMI and quality may totally vary
No. HDMI and DVI are technically perfectly interchangeable because HDMI is in fact an evolution of DVI (hence the electric compatability). They're also both digital so because they share the same schema, there can not be any loss of quality. No buts, no ifs, it's just not possible.
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Also,as someone mentioned above,HDMI has a "Limit" of 1920x1080...
More nonsense, complete bullshit. No self-respecting device with HDMI has HDMI 1.0 - 1.2, where it was limited to 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz. Bumped to 2560x1200 @ 75 with 1.3 (which was released in 2006 - that's FIVE years ago), 4096x2160 @ 24 Hz with 1.4. Your precious single-link DVI can only do 1920x1200 @ 60 Hz. For higher resolutions you need dual-link DVI; and even then HDMI goes higher.
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I dunno what to say..sides,some people experimented big probs with the HDMI cable instead of the DVI but that on LCD screens...it's just i hope i dont get the same shit with a LED
Really DV2, do you just instantly believe anything anyone writes on any shitty consumer review website?
#1: if DVI works, so will HDMI; you might need to set the monitor to the correct input, but that's no different as with a TV.
#2: TFT = LED = LCD. All the same thing. There is no "LED vs. LCD". A LED monitor is no different from any other monitor except for the fact that it uses LEDs instead of a cathode to light the damn thing up.
Worry less about the cable stuff, as that's all bullshit. It'll work fine. Worry more about the fact that it's a shit monitor for the price.
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...i think <<....i mean,if a game cant reach the new monitor's resolution,it'll go lesser but still Great,ne? <<...no black borders?
Seriously now, that is why checking in depth reviews that shows the speed is important.
... what a disappointment. With everything on it's side to be ultra fast, it failed to beat the U2410. It's a bit slower than the U2410.
