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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Nov 2011 22:55    Post subject:
De_TURK wrote:
dezztroy wrote:
De_TURK wrote:
I was really confused at start, yknow, when someone is chasing me early game and I need to use the health potion, waiting half a second before using movecommand is too much. Shift queue will take a while to get used to but simply selecting and targeting stuff shouldnt have any delay.


"half a second"? Massive exaggeration won't help your case, you know.


100ms then? Whatever it is, it should be instant. I am not saying the potion should start healing instantly, am saying that the game should know what I am telling it to do. So if I doubletap the potion and then rightclick somewhere on the ground, it should do those commands in succesion, not simply ignore the doubletap.

It would be perfectly understandable if it was a spell, but since when do potions have casting time.


I just tested this in a practice match. No matter how much I tried, out of 10 tries, every time I failed to move without using the potion by double clicking on it.

So to sum up: It's not the game's fault you have a terrible connection.
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hailey




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Nov 2011 22:56    Post subject:
It has like 100ms delay, it is honestly not that big a deal. SC2 has 200ms and no one really complains too loudly about that. Maybe they will start when Blizzard dota comes out. Maybe they will improve it but honestly it's something anyone can get used to if they take the time to.

Everyone complained about HoN's camera in beta, and the colors, and how they can't see anything when people ult, and wah wah wah. But they got used to it. if the delay was huge and completely insurmountable I'd understand, but it is one tenth of a second. I understand if it feels jarring when you aren't used to it, the same way people felt when hon was new, but I don't believe it's as huge a deal as people make it out to be.
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Nov 2011 22:58    Post subject:
hailey wrote:
It has like 100ms delay


Nope.
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hailey




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Nov 2011 23:01    Post subject:
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Nov 2011 23:21    Post subject:
Haha.
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Nov 2011 23:25    Post subject:
hailey wrote:
http://666kb.com/i/byzzawotnx61g62y4.gif


Why is the picture paused for 50 miliseconds? Not even the fire is moving.

Even if there is a 100ms delay, that is hardly something that will ruin someone's game.


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Sin317
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Nov 2011 23:25    Post subject:
thats 100ms input lag lol, thats impressive Smile
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zipfero




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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Nov 2011 23:46    Post subject:
Why does everything freeze for the first 50ms? flame, cursor, movement indicator


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sausje
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 00:08    Post subject:
Anyone else getting:




?


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hailey




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 00:26    Post subject:
I didn't make it I just found them on the dota2 dev forum. It's a recording at ??? fps compressed into a gif at ??? fps so it can't be super accurate

here's dota for comparison http://666kb.com/i/byzyyt2cnmz9w1ilo.gif

Hon has noticeably less delay than Dota 2, which has noticeably less delay than SC2, which has 200ms. I don't know how sensitive people would be to intervals smaller than 100ms so I'd just assume 100ms. I like both games

Did you know our consciousness has a 80ms delay from our brain processing reality? Life is unplayable
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zipfero




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 00:32    Post subject:
HoN was too fast for my tastes..I would probably have gotten through that problem had I played more but sooo many instances where everything was instant and you couldnt counter anything or be super fast/lucky cause well fuck it it was already sent and I probably lost my overview Very Happy But DotA..man I love it Very Happy

Only CS has gotten more rage out of me in a game Very Happy


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 00:52    Post subject:
Yup, this is definitely the best MOBA out there.
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 01:07    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
Anyone else getting:




?


Restart Steam, it's on your side only.
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Shakabutt




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 15:08    Post subject:
Today is my birthday,anyone want to give me a beta key as a present ? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 15:13    Post subject:
anyone have a spare key for me too? So Much Win
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athair




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 16:35    Post subject:
Ooo ooo for me too?

Damn steamgifts groups having 1500+ contenders in every damn giveaway Sad
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WaldoJ
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 16:37    Post subject:
http://www.playdota.com/ sign up and wait.


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athair




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 17:24    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
http://www.playdota.com/ sign up and wait.


I would if I still had my old account there, but it says new accounts are not elegible if they created after the contest started. There are a bunch of other contests going on though! Smile

But thanks for the tip!
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Nov 2011 17:29    Post subject:


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De_TURK




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 04:52    Post subject:
What the hell, even a noob in our moba group is complaining about the delay and that he cant use potions fast enough.

I guess I am too pro for this thread.

Troll Face

I like it on the other hand when playing with heroes like nighthound, i feel like everyone is reacting superslow, in HoN you die instantly if you dare to show ur face 3vs1. Very Happy

I hope bounty hunter will be added soon, wouldnt mind if they add the "click evasion" for the lulz.
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Amer_MerzZz




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 05:08    Post subject:
GOT INVITE! Fuck yeah!
One invite goes to steamgifts group and the other one - i'd really like to trade for something, cause none of my actual friends want it Sad
UPD: Or maybe there is!


No, we have no bears on the streets here in Russia.
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ehuehh




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 05:36    Post subject:
why do i never get this invite? fcking valve
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psikobare




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 08:03    Post subject:
got an invite

but moba really aren't my kind of games
i'd like to try to learn but even if i was really into moba, i feel like i need to read tons of docs to finally get started while i think you should be able to understand game mechanics just by playing (possibly without being insulted would be nice)

the game watch feature is nice, though, exactly what needs esport, audio stream with perfect graphics, will probably use that a lot (where should i go to know about dota2 competitive scene? i watch a lot of sc2 via teamliquid, but any advice for dota is welcome)


anyway, i have two invites, my friends play Lol and hate dota2 (moba players really looks like hateful people, toward new players, others moba games, and i even have a friend that yell at me for using twitch because owned is so much better !!11oneone (probably because his lol stream are using owned))n that's sad :/


i'm willing to offer those 2 invites to NFOrce forumers
some criteria
-regular on the hump (if you just registered, you probably won't have it)
-not one of the sick xenophobic i sometimes see in the world news section is a plus
-i know you/you're in BF3 platoon
-you have anything i could be interested in (don't really know, i don't feel like there's a game or a beta that i want access to that i don't)
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 08:08    Post subject:
Lulz DOTA2 just showed up in my library O_o
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Teramos




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 10:48    Post subject:
xExtreme wrote:
Lulz DOTA2 just showed up in my library O_o


now gift me one!! Very Happy

if someone got a spare one left

http://steamcommunity.com/id/chillmann2k
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CookieCrumb




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 13:01    Post subject:
I think I finally found out what bothers me about Dota 2. It feels... sluggish. Slow. In its character movement, the animations etc.
Hm. Gonna give it another try with that in mind.


sabin1981 wrote:
Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork Rolling Eyes
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ehuehh




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 13:10    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
I think I finally found out what bothers me about Dota 2. It feels... sluggish. Slow. In its character movement, the animations etc.
Hm. Gonna give it another try with that in mind.


does it feel slower compared to dota or other mobas like LoL or Hon?
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zipfero




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 14:07    Post subject:
ehuehh wrote:
Reklis wrote:
I think I finally found out what bothers me about Dota 2. It feels... sluggish. Slow. In its character movement, the animations etc.
Hm. Gonna give it another try with that in mind.


does it feel slower compared to dota or other mobas like LoL or Hon?


Dont think its slower compared to Dota(from all the replays ive seen havent played it myself Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad) but definitely 'slower' than HoN
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ehuehh




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 14:09    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
ehuehh wrote:
Reklis wrote:
I think I finally found out what bothers me about Dota 2. It feels... sluggish. Slow. In its character movement, the animations etc.
Hm. Gonna give it another try with that in mind.


does it feel slower compared to dota or other mobas like LoL or Hon?


Dont think its slower compared to Dota(from all the replays ive seen havent played it myself Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad) but definitely 'slower' than HoN


ahh ok thx, because i liked how dota was and i was hoping they kept it the same. damn i really want to play it
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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Dec 2011 14:22    Post subject:
De_TURK wrote:
What the hell, even a noob in our moba group is complaining about the delay and that he cant use potions fast enough.

I guess I am too pro for this thread.

Troll Face


I guess wherever you live just has terribad connections to give you that 500ms latency.
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