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| tomme wrote: | | Which one is Ron Perlman?! |
The one that is more realistically rendered.
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vurt
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 19:12 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | And the fully blind redguard would play with a permanently black screen? |
Well that would be a new trick, a blind hero, how would he differentiate the monsters from the maidens, he'd probably hump the monsters and kill the maidens by mistake. |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 21:11 Post subject: |
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| madmax17 wrote: | | For full realism the guy that is blind on one eye should get -5 perception. |
Actually, there's no PE attribute in TES series... 
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 21:18 Post subject: |
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Hm, there isn't? Playing to much fallout nv 
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 22:27 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | +5 Marksman, no need to close one eye in order to aim. 
(-1 Personality, ugly/scarred.) |
You're kinda pushing it here, that's like saying a dickless guy is a better lover because he's more sensitive. |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 22:49 Post subject: |
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Only three attributes
“There are three main stats: magicka, health, stamina. In Oblivion you have 8 attributes and 21 skills. Now it’s 3 attributes and 18 skills and."
evolution of 'rpg', next series there will probably be 0 attributes 
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 22:58 Post subject: |
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Which are all derived attributes and shouldn't even count - fact is, with Skyrim Bethesda has removed ALL base attributes from the game. Just so the little derps and derpettes wouldn't have to deal with big scary numbers.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Aug 2011 23:17 Post subject: |
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They're copying perks from fallot they should have done the same with S.P.E.C.I.A.L.
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crossmr
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| Quote: | | evolution of 'rpg', next series there will probably be 0 attributes |
Because you've confused RPG with game mechanics
A roleplaying game doesn't actually need those kinds of things. We use them as mechanics to keep track of things and create rewards, but a genuine roleplaying game really doesn't need them. An actual RPG is about playing a role and making choices in that world. With a DM making decisions based on what you actually do, the game mechanics become unimportant. Its why we can have RPGs like Amber, which are diceless, the next step would be to remove the attributes. It's much like interactive story telling.
It's why I cringe every time I see some game claim to have "RPG elements" what they're really saying is that they've included a sword, or the character has the ability to choose a skill. These are just game mechanics and don't really have anything to do with an RPG. An RPG Would allow you to make choices that have lasting impacts on the world itself, and deciding if you use a sword or axe isn't one of those choices.
While I certainly enjoy the common game mechanics of many RPGs, they are mechanics and not the game style/genre itself.
I'm not defending bethesda here, frankly I not really a big fan of them, just pointing out that the attribute-less RPG is more than possible
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 01:35 Post subject: |
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280 perks is still nice (FO3 had like 60-70 or so i think)... i like attributes though, but hardly a game breaker, i'm pretty sure they know what they're doing to keep it interesting.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 10:22 Post subject: |
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So how will these skills work if you don't have strenght and so on? Will all characters do the same damage with swords, with the only diffrens being the weapon stats?
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 10:25 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: | | Quote: | | evolution of 'rpg', next series there will probably be 0 attributes |
Because you've confused RPG with game mechanics
A roleplaying game doesn't actually need those kinds of things. We use them as mechanics to keep track of things and create rewards, but a genuine roleplaying game really doesn't need them. An actual RPG is about playing a role and making choices in that world. With a DM making decisions based on what you actually do, the game mechanics become unimportant. Its why we can have RPGs like Amber, which are diceless, the next step would be to remove the attributes. It's much like interactive story telling.
It's why I cringe every time I see some game claim to have "RPG elements" what they're really saying is that they've included a sword, or the character has the ability to choose a skill. These are just game mechanics and don't really have anything to do with an RPG. An RPG Would allow you to make choices that have lasting impacts on the world itself, and deciding if you use a sword or axe isn't one of those choices.
While I certainly enjoy the common game mechanics of many RPGs, they are mechanics and not the game style/genre itself.
I'm not defending bethesda here, frankly I not really a big fan of them, just pointing out that the attribute-less RPG is more than possible |
Exactly, just look at Call of Duty, it doesn't have any of this nonsense.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 11:13 Post subject: |
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| tomme wrote: | | Will all characters do the same damage with swords, with the only diffrens being the weapon stats? |
That + there's Perks for each of the weapon types.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 11:15 Post subject: |
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I am still hoping it's going to be good fun to play.. :}
The dragon thing alone looks awesome-juice.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 11:49 Post subject: |
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Errr... this is starting to sound like shit.
Combat magnetism??? WTF.
Health regen... FU!
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Meh.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 13:32 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 13:35 Post subject: |
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Great.. just what everyone wanted. A date simulator set in the medieval times.
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 13:39 Post subject: |
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5-Auto Health regeneration . WHAT. THE. FUCK. Seriously, Bethesda? Jesus fucking christ, that's the most retarded feature one could add to the rpg game.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 13:41 Post subject: |
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Can you marry more than one? If so, then I will create an army of followers. Men, women, animals!
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Aug 2011 14:18 Post subject: |
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| locke89 wrote: | | 5-Auto Health regeneration . WHAT. THE. FUCK. Seriously, Bethesda? Jesus fucking christ, that's the most retarded feature one could add to the rpg game. |
Fortunately it should be one of the simplest things to mod out, you'll see one released within hours of the game's release I'd wager.
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The notion of removing attributes from RPGs is laughable at best, IMO.
