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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 02:17 Post subject: |
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y u no have enthusiasm
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Nalo
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 02:26 Post subject: |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 02:36 Post subject: |
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Well, the HX1000 was getting a bit old... 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 09:39 Post subject: |
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overkill...
Unless yuo have 4 SLI cards with a killer cpu and like 10 TB of HD, you don't really need this much...
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 12:23 Post subject: |
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But this is TC we're talking about dingo, one of the few in the world dumb enough to actually do things like Tri-SLI, despite it scaling worse than the "other" side at double the cost and power consumption 
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 13:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:24 Post subject: Re: New Corsair PSU! |
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If you're using that in your current system what exactly are you planning on needing that for....your system probably doesn't even draw half of that even with the SLI in it. Thus causing it to be less efficient.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:47 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | If you're using that in your current system what exactly are you planning on needing that for....your system probably doesn't even draw half of that even with the SLI in it. Thus causing it to be less efficient. |
Well at the moment Im using a Corsair TX750. It gets the job done (at stock GPU speeds only, it cant handle overclocked GTX 480s) but as soon the PSU starts drawing around 400-500W (which is as soon as I start gaming even with one overclocked GTX480), the PSU fan controller kicks in to full gear and the thing gets louder than my entire rig. Its quite freakin loud. ANd when I say it can't handle two overclocked GTX 480s, I dont mean that Im scared to try it....From trial and error, I found that this power supply literally cannot handle 2 overclocked GTX480s. PSU fails, picture goes out and PC reboots.
And no I would never do tri-SLI because my cooling loop wouldnt be able to handle the heat. And air cooled card is not an option because I need my PC to be silent while gaming. Its all about the silence 
There seems to be only two sides to PSU arguments:
1. "you dont need that much power"
2. "that PSU isnt enough"
It really depends on what you want out of a PSU. I want silence and stability with heavy overclocking headroom. <-- This cannot be achieved with a PSU that barely gets the job done no matter how you try to spin it
Some additional info from personal trial and error over the past 5 months with my Corsair TX750:
With 2-Way GTX 480 SLI
CPU @ 2.8Ghz + Stock GTX 480s = PSU pretty loud
CPU @ 4.0Ghz + stock GTX 480s = PSU loud as fuck
CPU @ 4.42Ghz + Stock GTX 480s = PSU fail
CPU @ 2.8Ghz + overclocked GTX480s = PSU fail
With single card
CPU @ 2.8Ghz + stock GTX 480 = PSU nice and silent
CPU @ 4.42Ghz + stock GTX 480 = PSU nice and silent
CPU @ 4.42Ghz + GTX 480 @ 900Mhz = PSU loud as fuck
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2011 00:51 Post subject: |
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Well a good system with a GTX480 at stock speeds should draw about 400-450W. The GTX480 is nice and efficient. Good thing you got two of those low power consuming GPUs. Make sure to overclock those bad boys to the max, the power consumption is low anyway.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2011 13:15 Post subject: |
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@ TC/SpykeZ:
Actually, the GTX 480 is so fucking terrible that it *will* be a problem for a mediocre PSU like the TX750.
Before anyone comes in and says it's a good PSU: no, it's not. Only a basic 80+ certification and a CWT build - usually they deliver their power, but they don't peak mucher higher than their rated wattage, and they are noisy as fuck (as TC just said). Could've known that before buying it by just checking reviews, TC should have gone for a Seasonic build instead. Corsair had this nasty habit of letting SS build the popular PSUs at 550-650W, and letting CWT build the ones above that so they'd be cheaper (TX650: SS, TX750 and up: CWT - same for HX series). They've moved away from that a bit now, most of their new stuff is Seasonic - much better.
Just to give you some numbers: a pair of stock 480's does about 500W under a Crysis load, can get that up as far as 550 with some pushing. The i7 930 a 130W CPU, overclocked to 4.3 it'll do about 200-220W under load. Taking the extremes, that puts you at 770W at extreme, full load - excluding any power that goes to hard drives and such. Not that those draw much power anymore these days, but you'll reach 800W with those factored in. Given that one should really stay within the 20-80% range of a PSU (i.e. stay above 20% load, and under 80% load), 1000W on a quality PSU is desirable - problem being that you won't be able stay above 20% load, because those graphic cards use a disproportionate amount of power, almost exponential to what they deliver in performance. So when your PC is idling TC, it's still gonna be noisier than it should be.
I won't dispute the choice for the 480's, as I know it won't hit ground with TC, but in his case a PSU that stupid is needed because of that choice. You can reach these stupid consumption numbers.
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2011 21:07 Post subject: |
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oh bleh...didn't realize CWT built those -.-
Kinda why I stopped following PC Power n Cooling, their new and "improved" MKII series PSU's are made with ocz's wants and needs but are no longer using Seasonic OEM's
You see those new seasonics that are you?? holy fucking drool
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| Posted: Sun, 12th Jun 2011 23:03 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | @ TC/SpykeZ:
Actually, the GTX 480 is so fucking terrible that it *will* be a problem for a mediocre PSU like the TX750.
Before anyone comes in and says it's a good PSU: no, it's not. Only a basic 80+ certification and a CWT build - usually they deliver their power, but they don't peak mucher higher than their rated wattage, and they are noisy as fuck (as TC just said). Could've known that before buying it by just checking reviews, TC should have gone for a Seasonic build instead. Corsair had this nasty habit of letting SS build the popular PSUs at 550-650W, and letting CWT build the ones above that so they'd be cheaper (TX650: SS, TX750 and up: CWT - same for HX series). They've moved away from that a bit now, most of their new stuff is Seasonic - much better.
Just to give you some numbers: a pair of stock 480's does about 500W under a Crysis load, can get that up as far as 550 with some pushing. The i7 930 a 130W CPU, overclocked to 4.3 it'll do about 200-220W under load. Taking the extremes, that puts you at 770W at extreme, full load - excluding any power that goes to hard drives and such. Not that those draw much power anymore these days, but you'll reach 800W with those factored in. Given that one should really stay within the 20-80% range of a PSU (i.e. stay above 20% load, and under 80% load), 1000W on a quality PSU is desirable - problem being that you won't be able stay above 20% load, because those graphic cards use a disproportionate amount of power, almost exponential to what they deliver in performance. So when your PC is idling TC, it's still gonna be noisier than it should be.
I won't dispute the choice for the 480's, as I know it won't hit ground with TC, but in his case a PSU that stupid is needed because of that choice. You can reach these stupid consumption numbers. |
I purchased the TX750 back in 2009 when I was running on my AMD build. It was my first build ever and the TX750 seemed like a solid PSU to me at the time.
And I went with GTX480s because I got them at a bargain. I got my first GTX480 Hydro Copper card (this january) for only $375 and the second one for $265. Thats a video card+ pre-installed waterblock for only $265...This is why without a doubt I went with GTX480s
I agree Corsair PSUs arent the best. However, their warranty service is by far the best I have ever seen. Even better than EVGA. Why do I say this? here is what happened to me recently..
I purchased a used Corsair HX1000 at the beginning of March for $135 on ebay (I usually only buy video cards from ebay but I decided to give a PSU purchase a shot). I was deciding between a Coolermaster Silent Pro and the HX1000 but got a better deal on the HX1000 so I went with it. I received it and it was in excellent physical condition. Came with only the PSU, power cord and modular cables. No box or manuals.
It worked beautifully and was completely silent even with my overclocked rig. I mean really really effin silent. But then recently it started causing random restarts while under load. The frequency of this random restarting kept increasing until my PC would just reboot as soon I got to the windows login screen. After about a week of testing I determined that it was the PSU that was causing the issue. So I figured Im screwed since I purchased a used PSU with no serial number(Corsair serial number is on the box) and no receipt.
Somebody on OCN then told me that Corsair doesn't care about that info. So I went ahead and filled out their RMA form and my RMA was approved. Not only that, but they will be sending me a brand new Corsair HX1000 in a sealed retail box with all accesories that you would recieve if you were to purchase the PSU from a store. This is why Im sticking to Corsair
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Jun 2011 00:19 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | oh bleh...didn't realize CWT built those -.- |
lawl nub 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Mon, 13th Jun 2011 04:24 Post subject: |
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Also wanted to add, GTX 480s will always have a special place in my heart. It was the first GPU I ever bought that was top of the line (when I purchased my first GTX 480 in July 2010). Before July 2010, I always purchased mid-range to low-end video cards
GTX 480 forever<3 
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2011 21:17 Post subject: |
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Holy monkey balls!
I just phoned Corsair today regarding my Corsair HX1000 RMA. Apparently they dont have the HX1000 in stock at the moment so theyre shipping me a factory sealed HX1050 FUCK YEA
On the down side though, the HX1000 that I did receive (also brand new factory sealed) from RMA last week actually failed on me after just 6 days. It started failing yesterday which sucks. But at least this time theyre shipping out their PSU first before I have to ship this out. And also I get to keep 2 new PSU boxes! I love boxes
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2011 21:35 Post subject: |
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Yay higher electricity bill for you to pay! Yay!!
sigh...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2011 21:39 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | Yay higher electricity bill for you to pay! Yay!!
sigh... |
Well actually since it has a higher efficiency than the HX1000, Il actually save money on my electric bill 
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2011 22:21 Post subject: |
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You do know that depending on your rig you need only some amount of power?
Now seeing your specs I reckon that you'd be good with 750W gold psu. Now that would benefit your bill greatly, but your rig also, since psu have a band of optimal efficiency. With bigger psu you'd just have tons of unused power (granted it's not like your psu will draw 1000 W and give you 600-700 W that wouldn't make sense), but still those kind of psu are meant for rigs that can really use all that power. It's optimal efficiency band is in those high power consuming range that your rig probably never reaches...
So I really don't see why spending all that money on sth you won't properly use... It's like buying a mac... It simply makes no sense xD
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jun 2011 22:30 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | You do know that depending on your rig you need only some amount of power?
Now seeing your specs I reckon that you'd be good with 750W gold psu. Now that would benefit your bill greatly, but your rig also, since psu have a band of optimal efficiency. With bigger psu you'd just have tons of unused power (granted it's not like your psu will draw 1000 W and give you 600-700 W that wouldn't make sense), but still those kind of psu are meant for rigs that can really use all that power. It's optimal efficiency band is in those high power consuming range that your rig probably never reaches...
So I really don't see why spending all that money on sth you won't properly use... It's like buying a mac... It simply makes no sense xD |
Perhaps you missed the part where I only spent $135 on a Corsair HX1000. The one I got after that was free. And now the HX1050 shall also be free
750W PSU noise during load on my rig is a deal breaker for me. The main theme of my rig is silence and a 750W PSU does not deliver that silence for my rig
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Werelds
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Jun 2011 10:09 Post subject: |
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Nonsense. A 480 is bad, but 500W? Not even when you hit it with Furmark, and that's not "load", that's rape.
No, a 480 sits closer to 300W with Furmark, probably about 25W less for gaming. A 580 sits at the same point, 570 sits a good 30W below those 2.
If you saw 500W anywhere I'd look at that review again, it's most likely system consumption numbers.
Edit: obviously I'm talking stock voltages and clocks, but even then you won't get 500W out of *just* a single 480.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Mon, 27th Jun 2011 10:45 Post subject: |
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Yes you're right, my bad. My eyes skipped the "s" after "card" for some reason 
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