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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 16:43    Post subject: Ronhrin Anarchist thread
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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 16:56    Post subject:
I'll post this on here..

sabin1981 wrote:
Ronhrin wrote:

@helvete, I'm a Internet Marketer, I have ceased to declare anything for the last few months nor will I ever again, I have most of my money scattered among several international banks, if I ever get a knock on my door, they won't be living to tell the story.


So not only are you defrauding on your taxes.. but now you're threatening fatal violence if someone comes knocking? You are absolutely pathetic. Someone please ban this clown.

In the meantime, welcome to my ignore list.


Defrauding, is that what we're calling it now?

Is resisting to extortion now defined as defrauding?...

And whoever comes knock on my door would be to extort me further and possibly arrest me.

Do you know what self defense is?


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 22:11    Post subject:
Ronhrin wrote:


Defrauding, is that what we're calling it now?

Is resisting to extortion now defined as defrauding?...

And whoever comes knock on my door would be to extort me further and possibly arrest me.

Do you know what self defense is?



Your unpaid taxes will cause someones treatment to be worse.

ROFL at last. Killing and resisting to arrest is not self defence.


Oh and... cool story bro!


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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Jun 2011 23:18    Post subject:
Ronhrin wrote:
I'll post this on here..

sabin1981 wrote:
Ronhrin wrote:

@helvete, I'm a Internet Marketer, I have ceased to declare anything for the last few months nor will I ever again, I have most of my money scattered among several international banks, if I ever get a knock on my door, they won't be living to tell the story.


So not only are you defrauding on your taxes.. but now you're threatening fatal violence if someone comes knocking? You are absolutely pathetic. Someone please ban this clown.

In the meantime, welcome to my ignore list.


Defrauding, is that what we're calling it now?

Is resisting to extortion now defined as defrauding?...

And whoever comes knock on my door would be to extort me further and possibly arrest me.

Do you know what self defense is?

no one likes paying taxes, but that doesn't mean you have to behave like a 5 year old Laughing
am i right in assuming that you sometimes step down to the level of plebeians and use public roads, went to a public school/hospital/whatever institution etc. pp. blah blah anything that is financed by taxes? if you don't like it, please gtfo and stop being a fucking bigot.

oh and Laughing about the self "defense" thing
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 00:44    Post subject:
You people all agree the legitimacy of taxation because you agreed with it.

I didn't, I didn't concede any authority to the state or any other institution for that matter, anyone claiming ownership to the product of my labor is an extortionist, nothing more.

I don't intend to ever reach that point, but I'm done with it, I've decided sometime ago that I'll live a truly free life, I will be the absolute owner of myself and the product of my labor as it should.

If the State intervenes in any way, I will defend myself, you can get that right.

And yes, if you look the definition of self defense you will find that it means, defense against ANY form of force inflicted on my person.

People today have forgotten about the definitions of language and it's sincerely disgusting.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 00:46    Post subject:
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People today have forgotten about the definitions of language and it's sincerely disgusting.


You today have forgotten the definition of "conversation" and it's sincerely ignorant, apart from disgusting.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 01:09    Post subject:
Ronhrin wrote:
You people all agree the legitimacy of taxation because you agreed with it.

I didn't, I didn't concede any authority to the state or any other institution for that matter, anyone claiming ownership to the product of my labor is an extortionist, nothing more.

I don't intend to ever reach that point, but I'm done with it, I've decided sometime ago that I'll live a truly free life, I will be the absolute owner of myself and the product of my labor as it should.

If the State intervenes in any way, I will defend myself, you can get that right.

And yes, if you look the definition of self defense you will find that it means, defense against ANY form of force inflicted on my person.

People today have forgotten about the definitions of language and it's sincerely disgusting.


Just remember that if you get robbed/raped/assaulted/beaten you'll have no support from the cops. you'll just have yourself to rely on which may seem "courageous" to you, but if anything your version of life is a devolution from the current system more than anything.

Dude your ego is just extremely inflated with bullshit. teleport to mars, Dr, Manhattan and live your life alone.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 01:41    Post subject:
Ronhrin wrote:
And yes, if you look the definition of self defense you will find that it means, defense against ANY form of force inflicted on my person.

by that logic, let's say some dude rapes your gf/wife/jap love pillow and you try to stop him. he shoots you in the face. but he only serves a few years for the rape because you tried to inflict some sort of force on him, apart from obviously interfering with his freedom to do as he chooses.

i'm just glad you're in IM and not working as a judge Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 15:50    Post subject:
bushwacka wrote:
Ronhrin wrote:
And yes, if you look the definition of self defense you will find that it means, defense against ANY form of force inflicted on my person.

by that logic, let's say some dude rapes your gf/wife/jap love pillow and you try to stop him. he shoots you in the face. but he only serves a few years for the rape because you tried to inflict some sort of force on him, apart from obviously interfering with his freedom to do as he chooses.

i'm just glad you're in IM and not working as a judge Laughing


Who was the de facto source of infliction of force in that situation?

The rapist...

Self defense can also be defined by asking for exterior defense, while the forceful action is still taking place.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 22:52    Post subject:
Ronhrin wrote:
You people all agree the legitimacy of taxation because you agreed with it.

I didn't, I didn't concede any authority to the state or any other institution for that matter, anyone claiming ownership to the product of my labor is an extortionist, nothing more.

I don't intend to ever reach that point, but I'm done with it, I've decided sometime ago that I'll live a truly free life, I will be the absolute owner of myself and the product of my labor as it should.

If the State intervenes in any way, I will defend myself, you can get that right.

And yes, if you look the definition of self defense you will find that it means, defense against ANY form of force inflicted on my person.

People today have forgotten about the definitions of language and it's sincerely disgusting.


Then leave the society where taxes pay for all public services that are used. Move to a cabin in the wild, grow your own food etc... If you want to take part of a society you have to play by that society's rules. You cannot stay in a society and then demand not to play by it's rules. Until you've found/built a cabin in a non-inhabited area, paying toll whenever you need to go buy some food etc. your arguments are just full of hypocrisy and bullshit.

You can't choose which part of society you want (ie. all the perks without paying for them), it's all or nothing.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 22:59    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Ronhrin wrote:
You people all agree the legitimacy of taxation because you agreed with it.

I didn't, I didn't concede any authority to the state or any other institution for that matter, anyone claiming ownership to the product of my labor is an extortionist, nothing more.

I don't intend to ever reach that point, but I'm done with it, I've decided sometime ago that I'll live a truly free life, I will be the absolute owner of myself and the product of my labor as it should.

If the State intervenes in any way, I will defend myself, you can get that right.

And yes, if you look the definition of self defense you will find that it means, defense against ANY form of force inflicted on my person.

People today have forgotten about the definitions of language and it's sincerely disgusting.


Then leave the society where taxes pay for all public services that are used. Move to a cabin in the wild, grow your own food etc... If you want to take part of a society you have to play by that society's rules. You cannot stay in a society and then demand not to play by it's rules. Until you've found/built a cabin in a non-inhabited area, paying toll whenever you need to go buy some food etc. your arguments are just full of hypocrisy and bullshit.

You can't choose which part of society you want (ie. all the perks without paying for them), it's all or nothing.


Again, society is not an entity, it is an imaginary construct of individuals such as you and me, I do not have to play by societies rules because society does not exist.

I have to consider only individual rules of morality, and both me, you and most sane people on this planet, know that theft is illegitimate.

Opening an exception for a non existing construct will never legitimate it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 23:09    Post subject:
edit...not even going to go into the ramble on second thought....its pointless..
his circular self interested and flawed logic is too circular for him to see it.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 23:12    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Then leave the society where taxes pay for all public services that are used. Move to a cabin in the wild, grow your own food etc... If you want to take part of a society you have to play by that society's rules. You cannot stay in a society and then demand not to play by it's rules. Until you've found/built a cabin in a non-inhabited area, paying toll whenever you need to go buy some food etc. your arguments are just full of hypocrisy and bullshit.

You can't choose which part of society you want (ie. all the perks without paying for them), it's all or nothing.


no no, your missing the point of he wants the comforts of society..lights, internet, food labored by others, well maintained roads, a home with the creature comforts all crafted and delivered to his closest mass mega store for consumption and ease of access by mega corporations...he just don't want to play by the rules that created them for him to enjoy....DUH.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 23:12    Post subject:
|DXWarlock wrote:
edit...not even going to go into the ramble on second thought....its pointless..
his circular self interested and flawed logic is too circular for him to see it.


I have exactly the same thought when I read comments such as Frant's latest.

So if you please want to clarify, I will be willing to.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 23:16    Post subject:
|DXWarlock wrote:
Frant wrote:
Then leave the society where taxes pay for all public services that are used. Move to a cabin in the wild, grow your own food etc... If you want to take part of a society you have to play by that society's rules. You cannot stay in a society and then demand not to play by it's rules. Until you've found/built a cabin in a non-inhabited area, paying toll whenever you need to go buy some food etc. your arguments are just full of hypocrisy and bullshit.

You can't choose which part of society you want (ie. all the perks without paying for them), it's all or nothing.


no no, your missing the point of he wants the comforts of society..lights, internet, food labored by others, well maintained roads, a home with the creature comforts all crafted and delivered to his closest mass mega store for consumption and ease of access by mega corporations...he just don't want to play by the rules that created them for him to enjoy....DUH.


Do you know if I use roads or how often do I use them, do you know if I want police protection?
As for electricity and internet, I'm not taxed for those, I pay it to my service providers.

That's the point right there.

Taxation forces you to pay for services that you do not use or do not support!

If I cease to pay for my internet, my water, my electricity, someone will cut it off.

If I cease to pay for the police protection that I do not want, I'm thrown in jail?....


It's simple really..


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 23:18    Post subject:
Ronhrin wrote:
|DXWarlock wrote:
edit...not even going to go into the ramble on second thought....its pointless..
his circular self interested and flawed logic is too circular for him to see it.


I have exactly the same thought when I read comments such as Frant's latest.

So if you please want to clarify, I will be willing to.


no I have clarified, other haves., you don't like the answer so you disregard it as a personal attack..

.....we get it, your a "buck the system" type of guy..
"fuck the man, he cant keep me down or oppress me!" making mountains out of molehills.

you declare "taxes are wrong! people should pay as they see fit for what they need!" while in turn hiding your money so you don't pay for what you need, not even paying for what you decalre the "right amount" of pay for public services...your own theory is flawed..if everyone acted like that in a 'optional pay" situation..no one would pay right?

you declare that society is fake, while craving the attention that the internet provides for you within its society that created it.

your just an armchair militant extremist is all. complaining about how bad the exact system you use to enjoy life are.
I cant read any of your "Radical anarchist posts" without reflecting and thinking of this.



'help help I'm being repressed!"

no offense to you, but it does sound a lot like that skit.


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Jun 2011 23:38    Post subject:
|DXWarlock wrote:



'help help I'm being repressed!"

no offense to you, but it does sound a lot like that skit.


What is the relevance if it sounds a lot like me or not, isn't it true though?

You may think it's an exaggeration on my part, but it doesn't cease to be the truth.

I may be excessive and intransigent, but that scene of Monty Python, portraits the use of force being used by the King towards the Anarchist, whatever you may think of his reaction, he is being forced to do something against his will.

There's no principal difference between that scene and holding a gun to one's head and make a life threat for his wallet.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 12:57    Post subject:
After a discussion with the other mods this thread has been re-opened.

Ronhrin - Out of respect to the other forum members please control yourself and keep your ranting to this thread. Should you feel the need to rant about something in another thread, rather than doing so, please bring that topic here.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 13:29    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
After a discussion with the other mods this thread has been re-opened.

Ronhrin - Out of respect to the other forum members please control yourself and keep your ranting to this thread. Should you feel the need to rant about something in another thread, rather than doing so, please bring that topic here.


L O L.

Anyway. Why do you preach anarchy Rohnrin? It seems to me you only do it for your own personal gain. To not have to pay taxes being the one reason I see over and over again.

Believing in anarchy is believing in freedom. For ALL. Men, WOMEN and animals. Or is it your opinion that only a certain few deserves it? If that´s the case then we have anarchy already today.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 13:33    Post subject:
Cmon....do we really need more of these Ronhrin discussions?


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No, not really, no.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 13:52    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
After a discussion with the other mods this thread has been re-opened.

Ronhrin - Out of respect to the other forum members please control yourself and keep your ranting to this thread. Should you feel the need to rant about something in another thread, rather than doing so, please bring that topic here.


Are you implying that I lose control of myself? No not really no, what I do is to have a very arrogant stand towards false views. I will however do as you ask and bring political related topics into this thread.


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:29    Post subject:
I'm not implying it. I'm stating it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 20:57    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
I'm not implying it. I'm stating it.


I've lost control in here one time over the span of several years, and that was roughly 1 month ago as you probably remember.

Other than that particular situation, I never lose control of myself.

You are, in my view, confusing loss of control, with my arrogant stance towards false opinions.

I'm going through some personal situations on my life exactly for my inability to have any sort of respect towards false ideals or double standards, not that any of you here has anything to do with it, but when I react in such a manner it is after all because someone is giving a illogical argument and I merely have the tendency to keep going until I demonstrate the flaw in peoples reasoning.

And I also don't like being accused of something I'm not or am not doing.

I have nothing against any moderators or any member of this board, I keep coming here because I like to be here. Apparently some people have problems with me exactly for my radical opposition to opinions.

I have inclusively been offended far to many times here with the implicit permission of the mods, and I don't even hold any sort of grudge towards those people.

I have always been respectful despite being arrogant, and I'm not being respected with some accusations being throw around the forum as you're probably aware.

Again, I will do as you ask and keep political arguments into this thread, unless asked or called for it in another.

And you do have a very wrong idea of my person, I'm aware that I write in such an obtuse and aggressive manner that is bound to some negative interpretation by some of you, but regardless of anything you might think, I above everything else, act on principle almost exclusively, I'm always direct, frank and truthful, regardless of the consequences of my statements.

I never attempted to cause any confrontation in here, I'm very sorry it has lead to it.


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Ronhrin, you bare all the hallmarks of an aspie. If not for the fact that I haven't actually met you, I'd be 100% certain of you having aspergers.
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 21:26    Post subject:
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Ronhrin, you bare all the hallmarks of an aspie. If not for the fact that I haven't actually met you, I'd be 100% of you having aspergers.


I've been tested for it more than 20 years ago, by two independent psychiatrists, at the time it was concluded that I hadn't any sort of behavioral dysfunction to be diagnosed with it.

What I am is mostly due to an active choice of applying my logical conclusions to every aspect of my life.

But I would like to hear what exactly and specifically in my behavior has made you assume that?


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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Jun 2011 22:00    Post subject:
Not as much your behaviour as what you've said, but I suppose it's a bit of your behaviour as well.

You've said that you have a lot of difficulty interacting with others socially, you seem to be an intelligent sort and have very focused interests.
Two very important traits on the asperger scale.

You do not quit eventhough you've been in a few situations around here which others would've attributed to defeat or ridicule, but you've pushed on despite that, aspergers are usually very stubborn like that, even in failure they will try again, to the point of fanaticism.

Your self admitted arrogance, something which must stem from a real life encounter where someone thought you arrogant and told you, common to aspie's as well, they can seem quite arrogant in their knowledge.

If I saw these traits in a person in real life, I would definitely consider them/he/she to be a potential aspie.

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his personality reminds more of one of the shows they had on discovery channel about a kid in a village that was slighty more intelligence than the others in that village.

they was praising him as a great doctor, and boasting that he could know the cure for cancers and such.
because he was seeing himself as the most intellect person that hes met, he assumed he WAS the most intelligent around. until they took him and did studies on him and his theories because of all the hype this little village was giving him as word spread of the prodigy child genius, ideas on how to cure illnesses was questioned by professionals.

sure his ideas made sense on a common sense level as far as "X = y, so y must be beat with Z". but in practice and review they was all flawed..but he had never had anyone that could disprove his ideas in the small village, and only had people go "well hes smart he MUST know it all". causing him to have a highly over inflated sense of "I'm always right, I'm the smartest one around..". Even when doctors and scientist was disproving his ideas he had for years, he argued with them that THEY Was wrong..
because hes never been told he was wrong, so it MUST be the new people hes meeting that are mistaken.

think he has this problem. hes had so long of people going "well he seems highly intelligent so I cant argue with that he says". So he views anyone else that disagrees with him as being over arrogant and just plain wrong.


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