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 Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 19:23 Post subject: If this is true, James Bond series might as well croak |
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http://inhome.rediff.com/movies/2005/apr/06bond.htm
Daniel Craig? Give me a break. I know its not exactly official, but hes expected to sign the deal. This guy looks nothing like James Bond. Oh well, I'm going to download Layer Cake and see his performance in that.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 19:27 Post subject: |
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Yes this is old news but considerin they were gonna get a yank to play the part it's at least somethin. i don't rate this guy as an actor nor do i think he should play james bond but nvm 
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 19:38 Post subject: |
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Theres noone who is capable of playing Bond except Brosnan. He asked for like 55 million to do another film, so his greed is the cause of him not doing it anymore. But, he atleast had the guts to stand up and say how bad Die another Day was. They couldnt cut him away from the franchise even if he said that because he already signed for the deal of making all those movies.
As far as getting another actor to play Bond, well there is none.
Erica Bana is crap. Whoever said Hugh Grant, Craig Daniel, Gerard Butler, Ewan McGregor, Christian Bale, or other actors is on crack. None of them look like Bond, nor have the acting ability to play him. Bond doesnt have blonde hair, he has black. Also, you need someone who can play it the way the Ian Flemming novels where. In my opinion, I think Dalton was the best to do that.
I heard some people say Clive Owen could do it. But hes too stiff to play the part. He speaks every line like hes bored.
Maybe Adrian Paul can do it. But hes aging. But that didnt stop Roger Moore from playing Bond. Paul looks like a young Connery, is in perfect fit, does martial arts, would be perfect for the fighting scenes. He just needs to cut his poneytail 
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 19:41 Post subject: |
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Daniel Craig as turn down the role,
and belive it or not but roger-moore as ask for a role
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 19:45 Post subject: |
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| uploader wrote: | Daniel Craig as turn down the role,
and belive it or not but roger-moore as ask for a role |
Daniel Craig has? Well if thats true, show your source... because that would be good news.
Roger Moore part is fuckin' bull shit. The guy is in his 80s. Maybe as a cameo, but thats still really lame. It'd be a throwback to the 70s and 80s.
You do realize Moore was born in the 20s?
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000549/
He couldnt do Casino Royale because hes busy with the other projects.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 20:16 Post subject: |
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no it's true he does wanna play a bond villain soon. and you've obviously not heard of hair dye . where u heard brosnan demanded 55million i don't know. no1 liked/likes him as bond anyway and he's too old for the part.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 20:54 Post subject: |
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i know he wasn't the oldest bond but he sure looks older than the others and isn't as slick as the others either
no where on here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381061/trivia) does it say he demanded 50million.
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Apr 2005 20:59 Post subject: |
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| Sublime wrote: | i know he wasn't the oldest bond but he sure looks older than the others and isn't as slick as the others either
no where on here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0381061/trivia) does it say he demanded 50million. |
Its not on the trivia page. Check on the message board under Pierce Brosnan or the Casino Royale message board. There should be links or people saying he did. That is the real reason why he left. He asked for too much money for the next film.
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hahe
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2005 01:30 Post subject: |
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He did ask for too much money. But I heard somewhere around $40 million or something like that. Still too much and they cut him because of that. Also the link for Craig denying the rumors is here http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=9256
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2005 02:01 Post subject: |
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| hahe wrote: | | He did ask for too much money. But I heard somewhere around $40 million or something like that. Still too much and they cut him because of that. Also the link for Craig denying the rumors is here http://comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=9256 |
So Craig denied the rumors? I wonder why all these new sites posted along with magazines about Craig being signed on. Well, the movies due next year so you'd think they'd get a head start on it with a good actor. I knew I was right about Brosnan off because of the cash. As for Craig, well noone really knows. Alot of times actors are told to shutup. I do hope Craig doesnt get the part. If anything, they should pay Brosnan the money, and get him back. The Bond series is heading on a collision course for destruction with these writers. Now their remaking Casino Royale. If this movies going to be bad, atleast let Brosnan star in it. Dont let it suck totally by bringing in a new actor. Brosnans as close as your gonna get to a real Bond for awhile. Unless you get Timothy Dalton back (hes aging), and forget Connery even though hes up there as best Bond along with Dalton. If they cant bring Brosnan back for atleast one more, than they shouldnt do another Bond film until they find a good actor, and write better scripts.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2005 02:01 Post subject: |
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You lot should stop acting as if you know who and who wouldn't be perfect for the next bond. Obviously you have no fucking clue if you keep moaning about looks, considering all the bonds have looked wildly different, except for the hairstyle, and thats easily replicated.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2005 08:40 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | You lot should stop acting as if you know who and who wouldn't be perfect for the next bond. Obviously you have no fucking clue if you keep moaning about looks, considering all the bonds have looked wildly different, except for the hairstyle, and thats easily replicated. |
Uhh, I do have a clue. I've been a fan of Bond for years now. Its called an opinion to. Looks changed vastly? I wouldnt say that vastly. Dalton, Brosnan, Lazenby, Moore, and Connery looked like Bond. Atleast from what the novel could describe. He is supposed to be British. However, Brosnan is actually Irish. They all still looked and played like Bond.
Now just because theres been some differences, doesnt mean its safe to go nuts and pick out actors that are out of this world. Like Daniel Craig. Give me a break. Whats next? A black James Bond? Not to be racist, but its getting really lame. Bond himself has turned from a actual spy into a hitman over the years. But you cant actually blame Bond himself, or the actors portraying him, as their only acting off of the crap the writers give them.
I can say whatever I want. And anyone with a brain would surely agree with me that Daniel Craig isnt right for Bond, same goes for Eric Bana. Clive Owen sorta resembles Bond, yes. But the truth is hes too stiff for the role. Go watch King Arthur. Than watch I'll Sleep When I'm Dead. Seeing as though I'll get flamed if I just mentioned one film an actor does, which is like basing it on his entire career. Thats not the point. Atleast atleast five of their films. I have, so I should know. Do we have a say in this? No. The people up top are the ones who will choose the next Bond. But I'm sure their listening to atleast some fan input.
Bleh, where are the Bond fans when you need them to stick up for ya 
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hahe
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Apr 2005 22:17 Post subject: |
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Heh I'll try and stick up for you. I've been a fan of the Bond movies for years. I think either Brosnan or Connery are the best Bond. And that Daniel Craig shouldn't be Bond. If Clive Owen became Bond I wouldn't really mind though. And he can act. He won a Golden Globe for his role in Closer. Just hopefully they'll pick a good Bond.
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2005 00:26 Post subject: |
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| hahe wrote: | | Heh I'll try and stick up for you. I've been a fan of the Bond movies for years. I think either Brosnan or Connery are the best Bond. And that Daniel Craig should be Bond. If Clive Owen became Bond I wouldn't really mind though. And he can act. He won a Golden Globe for his role in Closer. Just hopefully they'll pick a good Bond. |
Who do you think hit the Bond role much closer? Dalton or Brosnan? They were both good.
Adrian Paul all the way. I wonder why noone is talking about him. Hes one of the only Bonds who can actually fight. He has martial arts background in real life. He looks like a younger Connery. Also he did Highlander the series.
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hahe
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| Posted: Tue, 26th Apr 2005 01:51 Post subject: |
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I'd say Brosnan did. I think he's a great Bond and brought the franchise back.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 04:24 Post subject: |
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| xAiTheHitman wrote: | | hahe wrote: | | Heh I'll try and stick up for you. I've been a fan of the Bond movies for years. I think either Brosnan or Connery are the best Bond. And that Daniel Craig should be Bond. If Clive Owen became Bond I wouldn't really mind though. And he can act. He won a Golden Globe for his role in Closer. Just hopefully they'll pick a good Bond. |
Who do you think hit the Bond role much closer? Dalton or Brosnan? They were both good.
Adrian Paul all the way. I wonder why noone is talking about him. Hes one of the only Bonds who can actually fight. He has martial arts background in real life. He looks like a younger Connery. Also he did Highlander the series. |
Bond has never praticed martial arts so I don't see how thats relevent.
All the bonds look completely different except they're white and have brown hair. Dye can sort out the hair. Really it's about personae, thats what matters.
Anyone with a brain shoud be agreeing with you? I thought it was all about opinion?
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 05:11 Post subject: |
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Ah jesus I just noticed I put that Daniel Craig should be Bond when I ment he shouldn't. Fixed it.
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hahe
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 05:28 Post subject: |
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Here's another link then about Dench talking about Pierce being Bond again. http://www.comingsoon.net/news.php?id=9331 I also don't believe it and won't believe anything until it's official.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 05:35 Post subject: |
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I see. Yea, same thing happened when I found out they said that Daniel Craig was to play Bond. Not only was I pissed off because it seemed to be true, but it seemed to be legit in the fact it was on a bunch of reliable news sites.
As far as the Brosnan thing goes, I bet its fake. Wanna know why? Well its just the fact that they said that they tested every known actor for the Bond role. If thats true, why are a ton of actors denying alot of things? Theres alot of conflicting stories.
How exactly did the price range get straightened out with Pierce, and how come noones heard of anything about that yet? Also, how the fuck can everyone be tested for the part, yet I find how all these actors are denying roles? Some arent even approached. I bet thats another fake article.
For example, same shit happened to Clive Owen. He denied even being approached for the role. Also, how can he do Bond when hes filming the Poseidon Adventure next year? Facts are facts, there are no other actors to play Bond. If there are, just very little. Either bring back Timothy Dalton (in my opinion the next Bond next to Connery), or bring back Pierce. Worse comes to worse grab Adrian Paul. Hes more than talented to carry the role.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 06:01 Post subject: |
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anyone see layer cake?
I personally think he would make a fine bond.
PS: he looks scruffy in that picture, go watch some movie with him shaven.
I hated brosnan as bond, only half decent bond movie he did was goldeneye, everything was downhill from there.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 06:48 Post subject: |
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| Cheez-It wrote: | anyone see layer cake?
I personally think he would make a fine bond.
PS: he looks scruffy in that picture, go watch some movie with him shaven.
I hated brosnan as bond, only half decent bond movie he did was goldeneye, everything was downhill from there. |
Before I get to you. I'm going to post the news on the fake Brosnan report up above.
Everyone read this.
http://debrief.commanderbond.net/index.php?s=a445f379309ea9c6338779f4664f75b7&showtopic=22688
Please stop posting fakes in this thread when its not official. I knew that Judi thing was a lie because of the reasons I had above. No way it coulda been true. That website there is living proof.
Yes, I have seen Daniel Craig act before. Point is hes not Bond. Daniel Craig may be good at the films that he does and thats being more than fair right there. Hes not a great actor IMO and he definately cant pull off Bond.
Yes, I have seen Layer Cake, I can answer anybodys question on that film.
Why pick on Brosnan? He didnt overplay his part. He didnt underplay it either. He did a great job. Even in that crapfest that was Die Another Day, he did a great job. The beginning of Die Another Day was fucking awesome until it turned into the usual action, blowing up, and hitman style of the new Bond era. Again, not Brosnan's fault. Thats like telling Bruce Willis to act in Alone In The Dark. Yes, thats alittle bit over board considering that movie was total shit Fact is, thats what happens when you give good actors bad dialogue, and a terrible plot. The whole cloning part and battle zone on the ice was just lame. Sword fight was good though in the middle of the movie. Thats about all there was to it. Rest was crap.
Still the best Bond IMO was Dalton and Connery. Dalton only got to do 2 films but the films he did was great. His Bond didnt rely on crappy gadgets, or special effects. He brought the Bond series to its dark roots of the Ian Flemming novels.
Just watch The Living Daylights. Its not some stupid plot like the other Bond films where its about villians global domination of the world sequel after sequel. The Living Daylights was about real world events thats possible like arms dealers and political assassinations. Thats what being a spys all about  Too bad Dalton didnt continue the role.
Far as best Bonds go I have Timothy Dalton as a tie with Connery and than Brosnan coming in as a second. Than Lazenby and than Moore.
Daniel Craig couldnt play a methological assassin, much less play off Bond the way Moore did.
I have a feeling this project might get canned and we might end up seeing another 5-10 year silence of Bond movies, like after the Dalton era.
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| Posted: Thu, 28th Apr 2005 07:25 Post subject: |
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Ispep
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 10:14 Post subject: |
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The Daniel Craig thing is a rumour also - one that originated in an English tabloid devoid of quotage or evidence.
Pierce was a great bond, the best in my opinion, the trouble is he had to contend with a time in Hollywood that isn't adventurous in film-making. Didn't help that the films were being used as investments to prevent bankruptcy either.
Clive Owen would be perfect in my opinion.
I don't understand this whole deal about only certain actors can play the role - all the actors mentioned are RUMOURS based around the fact they can play BOND in that role. Most of them even look similarish.
Also - none of the bonds have had the same persona either, they've been different in looks, style, speech - you name it.
What's more important than the single actor is the rest of the film - the script, the direction, the production the other actors.
And that is where it will invariably slip up.
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 10:22 Post subject: |
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The one thing all the bonds have had in common, with regards to persona, is that they are suave. Which is integral to the bond character I think.
Only certain actors are capable of pulling that off, and as far as I can tell Clive Owen is not one of them. Granted i've only seen him in King Arthur and Sin City so maybe that hasn't been his best work when expressing personality.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Apr 2005 10:39 Post subject: |
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I've not seen King Arthur, but as far as Sin City goes; no - it's not a Clive Owen performance which would support the argument for Bond, it is a very stunted role. From what I've seen he can play suave, he just doesn't pick roles which are expressing that. In Closer, when his relationship is 'happy' it's not the typical moody/angry/emotional for example - but he isn't happy for long.
Has anyone seen the Bourne Identity/Supremacy? Matt Damon is a poor actor in this films - he basically just mugs for the camera. But that doesn't matter as it plays to it's strengths in terms of action and intrigue.
Bond has become too formulaic and too focused upon the person playing said character. They need to start taking more risks.
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