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Rofl_Mao
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Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2011 17:50 Post subject: Lampedusa immigrants, what will happen to them? |
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As you may have heard, the small Italian island of Lampedusa is being swamped with African immigrants ever since the Arab revolt. I've heard immigrants pay around €1000 for this dangerous trip to European soil. Rickety boats with immigrants keep pouring in every day and currently there's more Africans than Italians in Lampedusa.
My question is: what happens to all these dudes? Everyone is provided with shelter and food by the Lampedusa population, and all immigrants are then transported to several refugee camps across Italy. After that, everyone receives a temporary permit to stay in Italy. Some of the immigrants then cross the Italian border and head to France, more particularly Paris. These guys disappear as illegal immigrants.
2nd question and my real issue: can everybody in Africa just jump on a boat, sail to the nearest European country and stay in Europe? Everyone seems to be accepted no matter what their intentions are. Then why would you want to stay in Africa? Is someone checking why each person took the boat to Lampedusa?
I know there's some Italian guys in here, I would like to read some extra information (Again, my point is not immigrant bashing.)
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The Italian PM, Berlesconi (sp?) will fuck the hot ones and the rest get shipped back to sea lol j/k
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SycoShaman wrote: | The Italian PM, Berlesconi (sp?) will fuck the hot ones and the rest get shipped back to sea lol j/k |
Since when did you start acting like a 16 year old all around the board?
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Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2011 18:46 Post subject: |
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SycoShaman wrote: | The Italian PM, Berlesconi (sp?) will fuck the hot ones and the rest get shipped back to sea lol j/k |
Berlusconi did visit Lampedusa, now that you mention it. He's currently on trial for having sex with a Moroccan underage whore. I mean wtf: he's 70 years old! What kind of grampa would throw sex parties?
Anyway: I think Berlusconi is the last guy to tolerate mass immigration of unemployed Africans. Which makes the Lampedusa case even more intriguing to me. As a non-Western person, why immigrate to a country ruled by a provocative rightwing motherfucker as Berlusconi?
(Berlusconi being a motherfucker is my opinion of course, many Italians probably think otherwise )
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Wouldnt be surprised if in 50 years war will be waging over here like they currently do in Africa right now.
We've got enough easely offendable muslims and africans to make it happen and since we 'tolarate' change they'll stomp all over us, it's pathetic really, and weak.
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Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2011 20:23 Post subject: |
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Hierofan wrote: | Wouldnt be surprised if in 50 years war will be waging over here like they currently do in Africa right now.
We've got enough easely offendable muslims and africans to make it happen and since we 'tolarate' change they'll stomp all over us, it's pathetic really, and weak. |
Okay, okay... opinions on non-Western immigration in general could be discussed in a separate thread. (Though I'm afraid it will give the moderators a headache.) What I'm interested in here is what happens with all the boats full of immigrants heading to Lampedusa.
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Rofl_Mao wrote: | SycoShaman wrote: | The Italian PM, Berlesconi (sp?) will fuck the hot ones and the rest get shipped back to sea lol j/k |
Berlusconi did visit Lampedusa, now that you mention it. He's currently on trial for having sex with a Moroccan underage whore. I mean wtf: he's 70 years old! What kind of grampa would throw sex parties?
Anyway: I think Berlusconi is the last guy to tolerate mass immigration of unemployed Africans. Which makes the Lampedusa case even more intriguing to me. As a non-Western person, why immigrate to a country ruled by a provocative rightwing motherfucker as Berlusconi?
(Berlusconi being a motherfucker is my opinion of course, many Italians probably think otherwise ) |
Agreed
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16 year old eh? Can't i make a fucking joke? Even if ur italian...Im not making fun of Italians....just pedophile leader. And that is what he is...a dirty old man in the truest sense of the phrase.
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I don't see why people dislike immigrants.
If they are refugee's fleeing war, they aren't going to be perm residents.
And as for reg immigration, as long as the person has some kinda job skill and isn't a criminal, its fine by me if they come to Canada.
Its the people who come here (or whatever country) and leech off the system that I and millions and millions of others pay into. Why should i have to work hard to make money, pay my taxes all so some dickhead can get a free ride until they deport him.
I dunno bout ur guy's countries, but here, Jamaicans like to do that. Come here and abuse the welfare system and unemployment benefits and free healthcare as much as they can until they deported.
Its not only Jamaicans, but they are the biggest group i know of that does it so openly. Hell, they will tell you they do that.
On the other hand tho, I know a lot of Jamaicans (both born here and immigrants) who are hard workers, pay their taxes and call themselves Canadian. I like people like that.
If I moved to Romania and never planned to leave, I would consider myself Romanian with Canadian heritage u know?
Have to adopt the country u live in.

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So what's happening is a border patrol. Most of the Lampedusa immigrants are apparently considered "illegal" (economic refugees, adventurers, criminals or whatever people call them). Then what I don't understand is: why is every immigrant accepted on Lampedusa, if Italy clearly doesn't want them? Seems to me Italy is trying to be creative with the rules. EU regulation probably forces Italy to accept everyone, so as a workaround Italy tries to prevent the immigrants from crossing the border.
What I'm afraid of is that most of the people entering the EU via Lampedusa will disappear as illegal immigrants.
PS I have heard of those Lega Nord dudes: they think people from southern Italy are all lazy bastards lol
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Rofl_Mao wrote: |
So what's happening is a border patrol. Most of the Lampedusa immigrants are apparently considered "illegal" (economic refugees, adventurers, criminals or whatever people call them). Then what I don't understand is: why is every immigrant accepted on Lampedusa, if Italy clearly doesn't want them? Seems to me Italy is trying to be creative with the rules. EU regulation probably forces Italy to accept everyone, so as a workaround Italy tries to prevent the immigrants from crossing the border.
What I'm afraid of is that most of the people entering the EU via Lampedusa will disappear as illegal immigrants.
PS I have heard of those Lega Nord dudes: they think people from southern Italy are all lazy bastards lol |
Thats what they are saying on the news here and on the BBC. That alot of the ppl fleeing the mideast to go to Europe simply are going to disappear into the EU as illegals.
Thats not good for some many reasons...for both EU residents and immigrants.
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Posted: Fri, 8th Apr 2011 20:45 Post subject: |
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Rofl_Mao wrote: | SycoShaman wrote: | The Italian PM, Berlesconi (sp?) will fuck the hot ones and the rest get shipped back to sea lol j/k |
Berlusconi did visit Lampedusa, now that you mention it. He's currently on trial for having sex with a Moroccan underage whore. I mean wtf: he's 70 years old! What kind of grampa would throw sex parties?
Anyway: I think Berlusconi is the last guy to tolerate mass immigration of unemployed Africans. Which makes the Lampedusa case even more intriguing to me. As a non-Western person, why immigrate to a country ruled by a provocative rightwing motherfucker as Berlusconi?
(Berlusconi being a motherfucker is my opinion of course, many Italians probably think otherwise ) |
They immigrate to Lampedusa because that is the nearest European land for them; keep in mind that immigrants aren't fully aware of the current situation here in Italy, where thanks to the Mafioso Pedobear the level of intollerance has reached unimaginable peaks, and democracy is slowly disappearing day after day. Many italians still love him even though he's currently facing three different trials (Ruby's sex scandal included) and trying at the same time to create laws "ad personam" to protect himself. It's not difficult to get the reason of this unconditioned love from the italian people: they've been completely brainwhashed by 16 years of propagandist televisions, newspapers, distorted news and covered truths. 
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ixigia wrote: | Rofl_Mao wrote: | SycoShaman wrote: | The Italian PM, Berlesconi (sp?) will fuck the hot ones and the rest get shipped back to sea lol j/k |
Berlusconi did visit Lampedusa, now that you mention it. He's currently on trial for having sex with a Moroccan underage whore. I mean wtf: he's 70 years old! What kind of grampa would throw sex parties?
Anyway: I think Berlusconi is the last guy to tolerate mass immigration of unemployed Africans. Which makes the Lampedusa case even more intriguing to me. As a non-Western person, why immigrate to a country ruled by a provocative rightwing motherfucker as Berlusconi?
(Berlusconi being a motherfucker is my opinion of course, many Italians probably think otherwise ) |
They immigrate to Lampedusa because that is the nearest European land for them; keep in mind that immigrants aren't fully aware of the current situation here in Italy, where thanks to the Mafioso Pedobear the level of intollerance has reached unimaginable peaks, and democracy is slowly disappearing day after day. Many italians still love him even though he's currently facing three different trials (Ruby's sex scandal included) and trying at the same time to create laws "ad personam" to protect himself. It's not difficult to get the reason of this unconditioned love from the italian people: they've been completely brainwhashed by 16 years of propagandist televisions, newspapers, distorted news and covered truths.  |
16 years? He's been in power for 16 years?
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SycoShaman wrote: | ixigia wrote: | Rofl_Mao wrote: |
Berlusconi did visit Lampedusa, now that you mention it. He's currently on trial for having sex with a Moroccan underage whore. I mean wtf: he's 70 years old! What kind of grampa would throw sex parties?
Anyway: I think Berlusconi is the last guy to tolerate mass immigration of unemployed Africans. Which makes the Lampedusa case even more intriguing to me. As a non-Western person, why immigrate to a country ruled by a provocative rightwing motherfucker as Berlusconi?
(Berlusconi being a motherfucker is my opinion of course, many Italians probably think otherwise ) |
They immigrate to Lampedusa because that is the nearest European land for them; keep in mind that immigrants aren't fully aware of the current situation here in Italy, where thanks to the Mafioso Pedobear the level of intollerance has reached unimaginable peaks, and democracy is slowly disappearing day after day. Many italians still love him even though he's currently facing three different trials (Ruby's sex scandal included) and trying at the same time to create laws "ad personam" to protect himself. It's not difficult to get the reason of this unconditioned love from the italian people: they've been completely brainwhashed by 16 years of propagandist televisions, newspapers, distorted news and covered truths.  |
16 years? He's been in power for 16 years? |
Yep, the left wing has governed for just a couple years in the last 17-18 years..Berlusconi is basically continuously in charge since 1994, go figure 
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Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011 10:38 Post subject: Re: Lampedusa immigrants, what will happen to them? |
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Rofl_Mao wrote: | As you may have heard, the small Italian island of Lampedusa is being swamped with African immigrants ever since the Arab revolt. I've heard immigrants pay around €1000 for this dangerous trip to European soil. Rickety boats with immigrants keep pouring in every day and currently there's more Africans than Italians in Lampedusa.
My question is: what happens to all these dudes? Everyone is provided with shelter and food by the Lampedusa population, and all immigrants are then transported to several refugee camps across Italy. After that, everyone receives a temporary permit to stay in Italy. Some of the immigrants then cross the Italian border and head to France, more particularly Paris. These guys disappear as illegal immigrants.
2nd question and my real issue: can everybody in Africa just jump on a boat, sail to the nearest European country and stay in Europe? Everyone seems to be accepted no matter what their intentions are. Then why would you want to stay in Africa? Is someone checking why each person took the boat to Lampedusa?
I know there's some Italian guys in here, I would like to read some extra information (Again, my point is not immigrant bashing.) |
Eventually they will end up in England, where they will recieve free housing, food, money, mobile phones and of course cars. They will then have the oppertunity to bring the rest of the their family over at a later date, of course paid for by the tax payer. Anyone who says anything about it will be labled racist by Lefties and people who dont have to put up with these people in their community, because lets be honest most of them will be uneducated saavages with the civilisation skills of the neandethals.
If it is a coummunity that hadnt had much exposure to immigrants, they will vote in the BNP and move out, the the current government will come out and say that they are controlling immigration, even though we know that they arent.
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Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011 11:56 Post subject: Re: Lampedusa immigrants, what will happen to them? |
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Rofl_Mao wrote: | My question is: what happens to all these dudes? |
They get deported
Cept the underage bitches
They get sent to Berlusconis
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Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011 12:51 Post subject: Re: Lampedusa immigrants, what will happen to them? |
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-=Cartoon=- wrote: | Rofl_Mao wrote: | My question is: what happens to all these dudes? |
They get deported
Cept the underage bitches
They get sent to Berlusconis |
Good point, about the deportation at least. I have heard the idea is to collect all the immigrants and send them back to Tunisia and the rest of Africa. But I'm not sure this is a strict policy. I have heard reports of immigrants slipping past the borders and heading into Europe. I think that would be really bad for Europe.
But that is not the point. What is: what's the official policy concerning all these North Africans that keep coming?
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I consider myself leftist (heck I vote animals' party PvdD) but that doesn't mean I want poorly motivated immigrants in Western-Europe! I think it would mean poverty, crime and decay. I even agree with the German immigration critic Sarrazin's point: too many non-Westerners will lower the average level of income and intelligence. (To avoid any banning: I'm not generalizing ("every non-Westerner is poor or less intelligent.") I'm talking about averages and cannot comment on individual cases. )
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@Ragedoctor
I would like to share my view on PvdD in another topic, it's a different matter altogether.
So you think unemployed Africans go to Lampedusa because authorities violate immigration regulation and always show tolerance in the end? This makes things even less clear for me: apparently there are rules but people refuse to stick to them...? Why would people want to make the rules so vague? Clearly that's not in anybody's interest.
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Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011 18:43 Post subject: Re: Lampedusa immigrants, what will happen to them? |
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Mantis2K9 wrote: | Eventually they will end up in England, where they will recieve free housing, food, money, mobile phones and of course cars. They will then have the oppertunity to bring the rest of the their family over at a later date, of course paid for by the tax payer. Anyone who says anything about it will be labled racist by Lefties and people who dont have to put up with these people in their community, because lets be honest most of them will be uneducated saavages with the civilisation skills of the neandethals.
If it is a coummunity that hadnt had much exposure to immigrants, they will vote in the BNP and move out, the the current government will come out and say that they are controlling immigration, even though we know that they arent. |
wow... Sounds like Sweden..
The goverment just voted a law that said that illegal immigrants have the right to medical care, school and so on. Even tho they are criminals staying here illegal..
But its nice to know that our goverment can put money into criminals when our old people rots and get locked in(yes they lock in old people in homes beacuse there isn't enough workers taking care of them) in elderly homes.
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Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011 18:47 Post subject: Re: Lampedusa immigrants, what will happen to them? |
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ScoobyDoh wrote: | Mantis2K9 wrote: | Eventually they will end up in England, where they will recieve free housing, food, money, mobile phones and of course cars. They will then have the oppertunity to bring the rest of the their family over at a later date, of course paid for by the tax payer. Anyone who says anything about it will be labled racist by Lefties and people who dont have to put up with these people in their community, because lets be honest most of them will be uneducated saavages with the civilisation skills of the neandethals.
If it is a coummunity that hadnt had much exposure to immigrants, they will vote in the BNP and move out, the the current government will come out and say that they are controlling immigration, even though we know that they arent. |
wow... Sounds like Sweden..
The goverment just voted a law that said that illegal immigrants have the right to medical care, school and so on. Even tho they are criminals staying here illegal..
But its nice to know that our goverment can put money into criminals when our old people rots and get locked in(yes they lock in old people in homes beacuse there isn't enough workers taking care of them) in elderly homes. |
Guess you could use some young African fellas to take care of your old coots! 
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Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011 18:58 Post subject: Re: Lampedusa immigrants, what will happen to them? |
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Rofl_Mao wrote: | ScoobyDoh wrote: | Mantis2K9 wrote: | Eventually they will end up in England, where they will recieve free housing, food, money, mobile phones and of course cars. They will then have the oppertunity to bring the rest of the their family over at a later date, of course paid for by the tax payer. Anyone who says anything about it will be labled racist by Lefties and people who dont have to put up with these people in their community, because lets be honest most of them will be uneducated saavages with the civilisation skills of the neandethals.
If it is a coummunity that hadnt had much exposure to immigrants, they will vote in the BNP and move out, the the current government will come out and say that they are controlling immigration, even though we know that they arent. |
wow... Sounds like Sweden..
The goverment just voted a law that said that illegal immigrants have the right to medical care, school and so on. Even tho they are criminals staying here illegal..
But its nice to know that our goverment can put money into criminals when our old people rots and get locked in(yes they lock in old people in homes beacuse there isn't enough workers taking care of them) in elderly homes. |
Guess you could use some young African fellas to take care of your old coots!  |

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Posted: Sat, 9th Apr 2011 19:01 Post subject: Re: Lampedusa immigrants, what will happen to them? |
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Rofl_Mao wrote: | ScoobyDoh wrote: | Mantis2K9 wrote: | Eventually they will end up in England, where they will recieve free housing, food, money, mobile phones and of course cars. They will then have the oppertunity to bring the rest of the their family over at a later date, of course paid for by the tax payer. Anyone who says anything about it will be labled racist by Lefties and people who dont have to put up with these people in their community, because lets be honest most of them will be uneducated saavages with the civilisation skills of the neandethals.
If it is a coummunity that hadnt had much exposure to immigrants, they will vote in the BNP and move out, the the current government will come out and say that they are controlling immigration, even though we know that they arent. |
wow... Sounds like Sweden..
The goverment just voted a law that said that illegal immigrants have the right to medical care, school and so on. Even tho they are criminals staying here illegal..
But its nice to know that our goverment can put money into criminals when our old people rots and get locked in(yes they lock in old people in homes beacuse there isn't enough workers taking care of them) in elderly homes. |
Guess you could use some young African fellas to take care of your old coots!  |
Except they dont work, only live on welfare.
Well, the majority of them anyways.
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So now I know a bit more about what's going on. Italy is fed up with the truckloads of refugees and considers the majority as economical refugees. Which is considered as illegal immigration. Italy now wants to get rid of them by handing out visas, so they can go anywhere in the Schengen area (the rich parts of Europe.) Other EU countries have refused to accept illegal immigrants so this is why Italy is threatening with the visas. Apparently no country wants these guys because most are supposed to be illegal immigrants.
To me the easiest solution by far seems bringing them back to Tunisia directly! Why is no one doing this? Why is no one blocking the boats or preventing the illegal immigrants from leaving Lampedusa? Collect them all and put them on a boat back to Tunisia. Seems easy enough to me.
Apparently there is some kind of regulation which is preventing a direct approach like this one. But what kind of regulation? Seems to me the EU can't even control who or who doesn't get into Europe.
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Because theres a minority of do gooders, who stamp their feet and scream racism when these kind of propostions are brought up, these people have orgnisations like the UAF in Britain, they are the death nail for western Europe and these menace and threats to our cultures and ways of life need to be stamped out before we turn out attention to the immigrants themselves.
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Rofl_Mao wrote: | So now I know a bit more about what's going on. Italy is fed up with the truckloads of refugees and considers the majority as economical refugees. Which is considered as illegal immigration. Italy now wants to get rid of them by handing out visas, so they can go anywhere in the Schengen area (the rich parts of Europe.) Other EU countries have refused to accept illegal immigrants so this is why Italy is threatening with the visas. Apparently no country wants these guys because most are supposed to be illegal immigrants.
To me the easiest solution by far seems bringing them back to Tunisia directly! Why is no one doing this? Why is no one blocking the boats or preventing the illegal immigrants from leaving Lampedusa? Collect them all and put them on a boat back to Tunisia. Seems easy enough to me.
Apparently there is some kind of regulation which is preventing a direct approach like this one. But what kind of regulation? Seems to me the EU can't even control who or who doesn't get into Europe. |
The e.u is a joke.
The sooner these pen pushing pricks go capput the better.
They have goons who make laws for country's that have never been top the country's there making the laws for.
Wtf is that about.
Every country should abandon the e.u.
Govern there country's the way 'they' want to govern there country's.
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Not to sound 'racist' here but, where i live in Manchester in the u.k.
There's loads of African, non speaking black people.
Africa is not part of the e.u so how on earth are they allowed to stay here the amount of time they do?
They should be deported immediately.
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You're alll exaggerating the facts heres. illegal immigrants in europe do get caught, put in immigrant camps and then get sent back home, they can't deport everyone at the same time of course but very few get to stay for a long time, for most it's only a matter of time. besides they live off the grid so I don't see how that should bother people with legal jobs. it's just xenophobia.
most illegal african immigrants live in abandoned houses and only get money by doing shitty work you wouldn't dare do anyway. maybe if you were in their shoes you'd understand.
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ScoobyDoh wrote: | Rofl_Mao wrote: | ScoobyDoh wrote: |
wow... Sounds like Sweden..
The goverment just voted a law that said that illegal immigrants have the right to medical care, school and so on. Even tho they are criminals staying here illegal..
But its nice to know that our goverment can put money into criminals when our old people rots and get locked in(yes they lock in old people in homes beacuse there isn't enough workers taking care of them) in elderly homes. |
Guess you could use some young African fellas to take care of your old coots!  |
Except they dont work, only live on welfare.
Well, the majority of them anyways. |
You like to talk out of your ass alot, dontcha...
Most black people I know have jobs (yes, granted some are on welfare), and it's the ones that you'd rather not do, such as cleaning or facotry work.
You still have never said what you do for a living, I take it you're either unemployed yourself or so far detached from actual reality ( you probably live in a shithole like Vellinge) that you only know what you read in the papers, because you're so far gone in your own little world that you're not paying attention to what's actually happening.
Again, if NFOhump was a village you'd be it's idiot... I damn sure still stick to that comment.
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