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Hmm that would suck big time, because it might mean that this year won't have anything interesting after all. AMD might be able to squeeze a bit more out of 40nm with SI, or perhaps their claim that they will do 28nm at GF will be true after all. If I remember NVIDIA's roadmap correctly however, they don't have a new architecture ready, do they? Meaning they're stuck for quite some time :E
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Frant
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 19:06 Post subject: |
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Why do we need PumpAction for whereas the language is Turkish? Unless he's a Turskish immigrant in Germany?
Plus, we have Google Translate ...
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 19:09 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | | Unless he's a Turskish immigrant in Germany? |
I think he is...
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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garus
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 19:12 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Mar 2011 19:13 Post subject: |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 12:10 Post subject: |
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And the 6990 NDA has lifted. I'd already seen the numbers, but here's all of it in a nutshell:
- It's loud.
- It's hungry.
- It's hot.
- It's fast.
We all know that these dual GPU cards are just there to claim the top single-card performance. Well, that's exactly what AMD did. Brilliant piece of engineering, really pushing everything to its limits. As far as its speed goes: it sits between 6950CF and 6970CF most of the time; meaning it's also typically about 5-10% behind 580SLI, and beats 570SLI. Most of that is thanks to AMD's amazing scaling nowadays.
A pair of Caymans in CF are still a far better choice, as they'll be quieter, cooler, less power consuming, but most importantly: cheaper.
To give you an idea of this:
- HD6990: €630
- GTX580: €425
- GTX570: €300
- HD6970: €300
- HD6950: €230
So 570SLI sits at €600, 580 SLI at a whopping €850. Antilles sits closer to that €850 combination than the €600 combination, at just €30 more. Score for Antilles. Now, AMD's own cards. 6970CF sits at the same €600 as 570SLI, but performs better. In fact, it typically outperforms Antilles, getting *very* close or even beating the €850 580SLI. Score for Cayman XT.
Here's the real kicker though. 6950CF (and I based this on the 2GB version) sits at just €460, a good €140 below the 570/6970 combinations. At that price point, it's right on the heels of the more expensive combinations (about 5-10% behind depending on the game) but at almost 25% cheaper. Double score for Cayman Pro.
Antilles is a bad buy and we knew it would be. From an engineering point of view though, it's bloody impressive. NVIDIA has to combine at least 2 570's at full speed on the 590, or improve their scaling to match this. Only time will tell, bring it on 
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 12:23 Post subject: |
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http://www.golem.de/1103/81952.html
12 pages review.
ofc in german
Including OC ... up to 500 W in overclocked mode is beyond good and evil 
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 12:41 Post subject: |
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Not to mention that you can also flash the 6950 to 6970. A pair of 6970s for €460? Om nom nom.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 12:51 Post subject: |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 13:06 Post subject: |
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Yeah it's really quick and painless. Download the 6950+Shader unlock BIOS, set the BIOS switch to #1/#2, and flash it with WinFlash. Can't remember exactly which position is the protected one, but you can do this WHILE the system is running (<3 AMD), so if WinFlash says it can't write just flip it around and try again.
Once it's done flashing, reboot and you'll have your unlocked 6950, whole process only takes a good 5 minutes or so 
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 13:08 Post subject: |
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Awesome, thanks! And does this work even on the new laser-cut PCB revisions?
I'm really looking forward to the next few months. Won't take me long to snag the cash for a full rig transplant, hehe.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 13:21 Post subject: |
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Not sure it will, but even if it doesn't work you can't brick your card. The unlocked BIOS will function fine, and even if it wouldn't function, flick the switch back and load on stock BIOS
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 13:22 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | | human_steel wrote: | | Unless he's a Turskish immigrant in Germany? |
I think he is... |
Guys why didn't you pm me, didn't see the thread (am poor, can't even afford reading threads about high speed gfx cards ) |
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 13:24 Post subject: |
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also a good deal is the 6950 1gb from sapphire for 190 euros in germany, if you like to crossfire, but then again if you crossfire you probably want to use eyefinity and thats the only case i would advise getting a 2gb card.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 16:06 Post subject: |
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| PumpAction wrote: | | tonizito wrote: | | human_steel wrote: | | Unless he's a Turskish immigrant in Germany? |
I think he is... |
Guys why didn't you pm me, didn't see the thread (am poor, can't even afford reading threads about high speed gfx cards ) |
I was only joking, but  _steel didn't catch that. 
Anyways, here's HardOcp's review:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/03/07/amd_radeon_hd_6990_antilles_video_card_review
Pretty good job by AMD on the power consumption and temperature numbers:
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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garus
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| Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2011 16:22 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2011 07:15 Post subject: |
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I have a kinda general question on GPU's and thought that this would be a good place to ask.
Do the faster GPU's generally run at less heat/load and such based on their overall performance in a game?
i.e. If I was running a game at lets just say "high" settings, on an older card (lets say 8800 Nvidia) and I took the same settings in the same game and had a newer (lets say 580 Nvidia) card, would the load be as much on the 580 card? Or would it simply not have to work as hard because its power?
Edit: Also, what should be an average GPU temp under load be? I've read an article that stated between 65-75C but it was an older article. Is it still true?
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Werelds
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2011 10:16 Post subject: |
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| Mikey5449 wrote: | I have a kinda general question on GPU's and thought that this would be a good place to ask.
Do the faster GPU's generally run at less heat/load and such based on their overall performance in a game?
i.e. If I was running a game at lets just say "high" settings, on an older card (lets say 8800 Nvidia) and I took the same settings in the same game and had a newer (lets say 580 Nvidia) card, would the load be as much on the 580 card? Or would it simply not have to work as hard because its power? |
No, that is not necessarily the case. Especially NVIDIA have been at the high end of the consumption range with everything after the G92 (so that's GT200, GF100 and GF110 - GTX 2xx, GTX 4xx and GTX 5xx respectively).
Also, dual-GPU cards like the GTX 295, 4870X2, 5970 and 6990 and soon-to-be GTX 590 will always run hot and loud. In fact, in the case of GF100 (GTX 480), that chip on its own is too hot and power hungry to fit on a dual-GPU card, which is why there has not been a GTX 490.
On the other hand, something like a GTX 560 or 6950 (to take two current cards) is a lot faster than your 8800, and most likely will be slightly cooler.
| Mikey5449 wrote: | | Edit: Also, what should be an average GPU temp under load be? I've read an article that stated between 65-75C but it was an older article. Is it still true? |
Again, differs per GPU |
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2011 17:29 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the information! I appreciate it.
To elaborate a bit more on this, let me give a real world example:
I was playing Bulletstorm with my Nvidia 260 and my gpu temp would top out around 62C. The same card, while playing Rift MMO, topped out around 72C.
My assumption is that the Rift MMO settings are "pushing" the card a bit more and thus causing the heat to be higher.
Now let's say I tossed in an Nvidia 580. Would the above two games theoretically run cooler because it's not as much of a "push" on the video card?
I know this sounds pretty much the same question I just asked, but I wanted to give real examples to help with possible answers.
Any recommended hardware benchmarking sites you recommend? I've been looking at tomshardware and anandtech lately but toms doesnt seem to be as detailed as anandtech. Thanks again!
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Werelds
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2011 20:19 Post subject: |
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They'll probably end up a few degrees cooler, but it's still perfectly safe to have a card sitting in the mid 80's.
Anand and Xbitlabs are my favourites for hardware if I'm honest. X-Bit are the ones to go to for consumption numbers, no other site does it as accurately as them
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 23:05 Post subject: |
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| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 23:20 Post subject: |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2011 23:44 Post subject: |
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Now THIS is impressive:
Especially for us with small cases. 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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