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game fix splinter cell chaos theory nocd image
Play Instructions:
* Install the game - Full Installation.
* Disable any CD-ROM/Writers and/or DVD-ROM/Writers using StarForce Nightmare(attached in the rar file sfn.rar).
* Mount the SCCT.MDS CD-Image in Daemon Tools v3.47 or the latest Alcohol 120%.
* Play the Game!
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// Starforce Nightmare //
// Enjoy! //
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Designed for NewAtapi
20.02.2005 1.12 Some little bug fixes to avoid crashs by starting the program
07.02.2005 1.11 Some little bug fixes
05.02.2005 1.10 Beta support added for following systems Windows 2000, Windows Me and Windows 98
03.02.2005 1.01 The problem by starting the program on XP systems without installed updates fixed
01.02.2005 1.00 First version
1. Overview
This tool lets you deactivate CDRom drives in your system. Actually it supports
not just deactivating of all drives on IDE channel, like starfuck it do, but even a
cd drive separately. Also the combination of hard drive and cd drive on the same channel
would be possible too.
This program is the technical further stage of starfuck project. The project starfuck
had to be freezed for undefined time because our development team has changed.
Before using this program keep in mind: all what you do, you do on your own risk.
Be carefull, if you are using it: not all features will work for every one, it depends
on your hardware and software combination.
If you are not sure about it, delete this program.
2. Short briefing (how to)
- IMPORTANT: For correct working you must have administrator rights
Control buttons purposes explanation
- "Disable ch1" // this button lets disable first IDE channel of built-in ATA controller (Primary Channel)
- "Disable ch2" // this button lets disable second IDE channel of built-in ATA controller (Secondary Channel)
- "Disable ATA" // this button lets disable built-in ATA controller
- "Disable CD" // this button lets disable installed ATAPI CDROMs on built-in ATA controller automatically
- "Disable node" // this button lets disable relation to SCSI CDROMs device nodes
- "Enable ch1" // this button lets reenable first IDE channel of built-in ATA controller (Primary Channel)
- "Enable ch2" // this button lets reenable second IDE channel of built-in ATA controller (Secondary Channel)
- "Enable ATA" // this button lets reenable built-in ATA controller
- "Enable CD" // this button lets reenable installed ATAPI CDROMs on built-in ATA controller automatically
- "Enable node" // this button lets reenable relation to SCSI CDROMs device nodes
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If automatical handling doesn't help you to deactivate your drives, you can try its manual equivalent.
- "Pr.Master Off" // this button lets disable one installed drive in master position on Primary Channel
- "Pr.Slave Off" // this button lets disable one installed drive in slave position on Primary Channel
- "Sc.Master Off" // this button lets disable one installed drive in master position on Secondary Channel
- "Sc.Slave Off" // this button lets disable one installed drive in slave position on Secondary Channel
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- "Pr.Mas-Sl Off" // this button lets disable two installed drives in master and slave positions on Primary Channel
- "Sc.Mas-Sl Off" // this button lets disable two installed drives in master and slave positions on Secondary Channel
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- "Pr.M-Sc.M Off" // this button lets disable two installed drives in both master positions on Primary and Secondary Channel
- "Pr.M-Sc.S Off" // this button lets disable two installed drives in master position on Primary Channel and in slave position on Secondary Channel
- "Pr.S-Sc.M Off" // this button lets disable two installed drives in slave position on Primary Channel and in master position on Secondary Channel
- "Pr.S-Sc.S Off" // this button lets disable two installed drives in both slave positions on Primary and Secondary Channel
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- "Pr.Master On" // this button lets reenable one installed drive in master position on Primary Channel
- "Pr.Slave On" // this button lets reenable one installed drive in slave position on Primary Channel
- "Sc.Master On" // this button lets reenable one installed drive in master position on Secondary Channel
- "Sc.Slave On" // this button lets reenable one installed drive in slave position on Secondary Channel
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- "Pr.Mas-Sl On" // this button lets reenable two installed drives in master and slave positions on Primary Channel
- "Sc.Mas-Sl On" // this button lets reenable two installed drives in master and slave positions on Secondary Channel
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- "Pr.M-Sc.M On" // this button lets reenable two installed drives in both master positions on Primary and Secondary Channel
- "Pr.M-Sc.S On" // this button lets reenable two installed drives in master position on Primary Channel and in slave position on Secondary Channel
- "Pr.S-Sc.M On" // this button lets reenable two installed drives in slave position on Primary Channel and in master position on Secondary Channel
- "Pr.S-Sc.S On" // this button lets reenable two installed drives in both slave positions on Primary and Secondary Channel
- IMPORTANT: After clicking on needed button you'll see "Processing..." in main window caption
!!!Be patient, don't click any button till "Processing..." caption will be changed to "Starforce Nightmare"
3. System requirements
This tool is designed for using under Windows XP-Windows 2003 Server (Beta support for Windows 2000, Windows Me, Windows 98 and Windows 95)
(IMPORTANT: This tool will not work under Windows 95)
(On Windows2000 systems your host should not be administrated externally by another main computer in the network, else you will not be able to run it properly)
4. Known issues
Since starforce version 3.4.65.09 to prevent old starfuck methods for deactivating
cd drives starforce goes a very hardware incompatible way. StarForce protected game tries
to reset ide channel before it begins to check protected disk. Therefore this can take up
to 2 minutes before starforce begins with its disk check. All users, who have CD
drive on SCSI controller, ATAPI CD Drive on ATA/RAID controller, CD drive on USB controller
and even coming hardware innovation called CD drive on SATA controller, all those users are
involved by this hardware incompability issue of Starfore protection. This hardware
incompability appears even than, if you remove all your drives from IDE channel physically
and deactivate your IDE channels in BIOS to set needed resources free, also you don't even
need to use our program to find it out. That's, what you get with Starforce.
It seems, starforce team doesn't care about its hardware compability and not just that, they
don't care about software compability of their product, for which they want money.
If they try to reset the channel, they "play" with priority system of windows os, therefore don't
wonder if your computer will crash or after few times starting the starforce protected game
in such environment you will not be able to start any windows application more. It happens since
starforce version 3.4.65.09 and above.
On our test systems we were very often able to reproduce this software crash issue.
As you see, all what starforce has done before is useless. What they added to the protection
is just rapidly increased hardware and software incompability, nothing more, nothing less.
It's diffucult to imagine, what will be next hardware/software incompability level, if starforce
tries to prevent methods present in this program. How far they will go with their paranoid
idea to don't care about the hardware and software compability of their protection?
How it will work on coming PCI Express? How it will work with controllers in native mode?
I have already noticed many problems with starforce and native mode controllers.
For example most of Nforce2,3+ users can already set their IDE controller in native mode since
windows xp sp1> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/Native-modeATA.mspx
Just add to registry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\PnP\Pci]
"EnableNativeModeATA"=dword:00000001
And in the near feature native mode for IDE controllers will be necessity for coming windows
systems to get "Windows hardware logo" from Microsoft. As you see, the world of hardware
don't stay on the same level, but all what starforce do is degrading its hardware and software
compability.
If you, as game developer or distributer, bring your software, games or updates to users
you have to take into account, that even with update of starforce protection the compability of
your software will rapidly sink instead expected improvements. Especially by considering last
events.
Still want to protect your games with starforce?
As user you have to take into account, that if you buy new hardware, for example, just
new motherboard, it may happen, that your favorite games will not run on such system
due the hardware incompability with starforce protection. Or if you are already a
owner of last computer hardware and starforce game started till now without problems, than you
can just install update on your game and you will no more be able to run it from original
disk on your computer.
Still want to buy such games protected by starforce?
You see, to create this program you need deep expert knowledge of hardware
architecture and as you see, we have it, else this program wouldn't exist.
All, what I want to say with, my opinion described above is not just yeasty words, it is
reality. So think about it, what you buy for your money.
PS: it works fine even for starforce version 3.4.65.11, but as described above, by
using the function "deactivate channel" since version 3.4.65.09 you may have to wait up
to 2 minutes till starforce finished its senseless trying to reset your channel.
It is the problem of hardware incompability of starforce and appears on every system
without physically installed ATAPI drives on IDE controller.
By using the function of deactivating cd drives separately it should start immediately 
5. Contacts
If you have some comments and suggestions, send your mail to: starforce.for.de@gmail.com
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 14:25 Post subject: |
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I know this is perhaps not the place to say this but......
Seems a lot to go through just to get out of buying the game to me :/
I just did the right thing and purchased the game in the UK *SORRY NO ADVERTISING* quite a good price I think for a game series I have always enjoyed and got many hours enjoyment from.
Go on ya tight wads buy it  hehe
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 16:53 Post subject: |
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SycoShaman
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Location: Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 19:57 Post subject: |
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that GCW mini image doesnt work
And i wont buy it cuz of the starforce shit, called me a lamer, broke etc but it is the truth
I have the money and fuck, the store is literally a 3 minute walk...i see the game everyday i go to work pretty much
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 20:00 Post subject: |
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You wont buy it because a protection has successfully protected the game? thats bullshit and you know it. They deserve respect for creating of the hardest protections to crack for a long time.
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 20:01 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | that GCW mini image doesnt work
And i wont buy it cuz of the starforce shit, called me a lamer, broke etc but it is the truth
I have the money and fuck, the store is literally a 3 minute walk...i see the game everyday i go to work pretty much |
lamer
| Quote: | | PC awesome button = Uninstall! |
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 20:16 Post subject: |
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sorry budgie55 but please no advertising here
| Injurious wrote: | | And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch! |
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 20:19 Post subject: |
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eek sorry apex didnt know about that rule... /me adds another rule to memory for all the forums he frequents
No probs
Cheers
edit: better edit my other post in the other thread to unless u beat me to it  /... doh post is locked can a mod edit it please as I mentioned site there aswell... reported myself guess that will sort it if u aint already seen it apex (lol at reporting my own post )
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 20:22 Post subject: |
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lol no prob man
| Injurious wrote: | | And then Mabel tripped over a rock and landed in a well and was trapped there with Timmy. Sadly I shot Lassie so no one is saving that bitch! |
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SycoShaman
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Posts: 24468
Location: Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 20:33 Post subject: |
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| |NFiNiTY wrote: | | You wont buy it because a protection has successfully protected the game? thats bullshit and you know it. They deserve respect for creating of the hardest protections to crack for a long time. |
Respect and me buying the game are the same?
Not in my opinion
and dont tell me the reason i choose not to do something, who the fuck are you? Everyone is entitled to their own views/choices..u may not agree, but dont say shit as a fact when u honestly dont know what ur talking about
You can say "in my opinion, thats a bullshit reason" which is cool. But dont speak like u have all the facts as to why i choose to do something....
Big ups to the SF devs, of course
doesnt mean I have to go buy their fuckin game cuz they actually code a good CP....They are fucking up a hobby of mine + their drivers are fucked. But I should put cash in their pockets? great idea... 
Anyway, this prolly belongs in the SF thread
So, if ur gunna respond or flame me, whatever u choose, do it in the SF thread |
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 20:47 Post subject: |
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So a hobby of yours is downloading games?
Because if playing games is your real hobby you would have no compunctions about paying for a good one.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 21:59 Post subject: |
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Just a question:
Is there any gorup or anyone working on breaking the thing or did everyone just siad --- "nah it is too hard, we'll skip this one" ???
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SycoShaman
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Posts: 24468
Location: Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 22:12 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | So a hobby of yours is downloading games?
Because if playing games is your real hobby you would have no compunctions about paying for a good one. |
actually, downloading all sorts of shit is a hobby, and thats what i do
i'll download 50gigs of movies, sort through em, maybe keep a few if theres one i want. same for music, appz, etc I have two 120gig hd's so its all good.
And I do buy games man, ones with actual replay values such as NHL 05, Madden series, mlb series etc I have pretty much every major sports game...i always buy the new versions, rather than download, as they have such great solo replay value + online play is great. And they dont usually cost an arm and a leg. |
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 22:21 Post subject: |
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Small question... why does it only work if you put it on a usb drive? and why do we need to disable cd rom drives via sf nightmare?
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also, i don't believe in copy protection because it violates our legal right to back up software that we own. (to go along with whoseever's reasons for refusing to buy the game because of this)
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SycoShaman
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Location: Toronto, Canada
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 22:26 Post subject: |
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| negativeone wrote: | Small question... why does it only work if you put it on a usb drive? and why do we need to disable cd rom drives via sf nightmare?
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also, i don't believe in copy protection because it violates our legal right to back up software that we own. (to go along with whoseever's reasons for refusing to buy the game because of this) |
please read the locked splinter cell 3 thread - has all ur answers
or try the SF Protection thread in the protection forums. |
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 22:54 Post subject: |
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i already looked at the two threads that you mentioned and one of us has to be mistaken becausse neither of those threads (especially the locked one) really answers those questions.
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 23:01 Post subject: |
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| negativeone wrote: | | i already looked at the two threads that you mentioned and one of us has to be mistaken becausse neither of those threads (especially the locked one) really answers those questions. |
Then you need to read threw it, instead of saying that you did. I have
followed the thread from the first post even though I did not post in it.
As a matter of fact, SycoShaman is the man who answered most of the questions for everyone and also provided a lot of information about the release IMO.
If he said it's in there...then it's in there.
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Apr 2005 23:43 Post subject: |
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No need to senselessly accuse me of not reading it. are we talking about hte same thread?
http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2604
i read all four pages and i did not find out what disabling drives and using usb drives has to do with starforce.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 02:07 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | SycoShaman in my opinion this game is completely worth it, I think it's fantastic, far better then the other splinter cells.
The AI is some of the best i've seen in a game to date, the guys actually talk to each other when looking for you etc.
The multiplayer is quite good too, although the singleplayer is where it's at for me.
This and jade empire are the games i'm going to buy for the next month or so. |
So ive heard but still. I own the previous version of sc and ive only played through part 1 once, and part 2 twice. I prolly will buy it when they hits the bargin bins, not cuz im cheap but where i live anyhow, sc3 doesnt retail for no 30 bucks. cheapest after tax is a about 55-60 bucks. and really, im never again buying a new game for that price...it pisses me off so much. I'll pick up sc3 today for say 60 bucks, play it, have my fun and thats it. Only to see it for dirt cheap a few months later.
The videogame industry sells on impulse and they always hook me. Well, ive wasted enough of my money.
Now that I think of it, i prolly will pick up sc3 when its cheap just to add to my collection. But a working scene release will be out long before that
If a game retailed for one set price and never changed, then i'd be eating my words and i'd have no legit argument. But sc3 is visually impressive, and the gameplay from what i read is great...so why is it worth a bunch now and nothing later? because it isnt new? thats an a-d-d way of looking at it.
Either which way, I havent played it, so when I do play it, it will still be the same experience, i dont need to be one of the first million to beat it in a week or month or whatever. I used to...but after i waited in line for san andreas for 2 hours, paid 74 after tax and played it...well, the wait and the price werent worth it AT ALL. I was sold by the hype and the impulse, not so much the game ya know?
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 02:12 Post subject: |
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exactly, the last game i bought was republic commando, i bought it because my friend bought it and after 2 hours told me it was great. well after i got it and beat it in 6 hours i felt ripped off...
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 02:25 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | so why is it worth a bunch now and nothing later? because it isnt new? thats an a-d-d way of looking at it.
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Erm, it works that way with every consumer product. The reason being because technology/supply improves. When compared to the newest products, the old ones just arn't going to sell for the same price when you can get something better in every way.
I would have thought that would be obvious.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 02:32 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | so why is it worth a bunch now and nothing later? because it isnt new? thats an a-d-d way of looking at it.
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Erm, it works that way with every consumer product. The reason being because technology/supply improves. When compared to the newest products, the old ones just arn't going to sell for the same price when you can get something better in every way.
I would have thought that would be obvious. |
u know the point i was tying to make, i realize things decrease in value, but not a such a rapid rate as videogames.
and u never answered man, is that u in ur pic saluting? |
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 04:06 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | so why is it worth a bunch now and nothing later? because it isnt new? thats an a-d-d way of looking at it.
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Erm, it works that way with every consumer product. The reason being because technology/supply improves. When compared to the newest products, the old ones just arn't going to sell for the same price when you can get something better in every way.
I would have thought that would be obvious. |
u know the point i was tying to make, i realize things decrease in value, but not a such a rapid rate as videogames.
and u never answered man, is that u in ur pic saluting? |
Yea I hear you. $60 for a vid game is pretty damn expensive, wait 2-3 months and itll drop to a reasonable price.
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 05:23 Post subject: |
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| SycoShaman wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | so why is it worth a bunch now and nothing later? because it isnt new? thats an a-d-d way of looking at it.
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Erm, it works that way with every consumer product. The reason being because technology/supply improves. When compared to the newest products, the old ones just arn't going to sell for the same price when you can get something better in every way.
I would have thought that would be obvious. |
u know the point i was tying to make, i realize things decrease in value, but not a such a rapid rate as videogames.
and u never answered man, is that u in ur pic saluting? |
If it was me, would you think I was a weirdo?
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 06:20 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | | SycoShaman wrote: | so why is it worth a bunch now and nothing later? because it isnt new? thats an a-d-d way of looking at it.
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Erm, it works that way with every consumer product. The reason being because technology/supply improves. When compared to the newest products, the old ones just arn't going to sell for the same price when you can get something better in every way.
I would have thought that would be obvious. |
u know the point i was tying to make, i realize things decrease in value, but not a such a rapid rate as videogames.
and u never answered man, is that u in ur pic saluting? |
If it was me, would you think I was a weirdo? |
haha. well, first, it shouldnt matter what i think right
but no, i wouldnt
im just wondering why ur saluting and whats on your forehead? Is it like the Hitman barcode but reverse? |
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 07:43 Post subject: |
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I think it's annoying when everyone keeps saying "just buy the game" and shit. This is like a site for finding new warez release stuff, if I wanted to buy shit I wouldn't be here. well..thats my opinion. I find this game a little too boring to buy but coop over LAN sounds fun, hopefully there will be a crack soon
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Hoyt
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| Posted: Thu, 14th Apr 2005 08:32 Post subject: |
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I download games because I like to know what exactly it is I'm about to purchase it before I waste 30 to 70 dollars on something. A lot of games have so much hype surrounding them that you can't really tell if the game is shitty or awesome.
And demos don't cut it either. Would you buy a car after only being able to turn the ignition? Fuck no, I want to drive it and feel out the COMPLETE PACKAGE before I shell out a lot of money for something that's not fully refundable. If I think a game is worth the MSRP, I'll go and buy it because I like having the CD cases and stuff. If it's shit, I'm happy that I didn't waste my money on a company that likes to screw their customers with a lot of hype.
I've been screwed enough by buying games that are done half-assed and buggy as hell even on systems it claims to be compatible with. KOTOR2 totally turned me off to buying games before I've tried the FULL thing... Stupid game had a lot of it's content taken out prior to release and it doesn't even have an ending, the dude fights the old woman and just flys away in his ship... WTF? A game like that isn't worth $50+.
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