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Ronhrin
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 Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 03:36 Post subject: Without rules?!? |
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Who temp banned me from trolling around on the useless void...
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There are rules, uncorruptable rules under anarchism, and everyone enforces those rules on everybody else, it's not a self proclaimed authority figure who chooses to enforce rules on you out of it's whim.
Rules aren't meant to be changed and reconsidered, they are absolute aspects of any system, gravity will enforce itself over you at any time, whether you vote for it or not, the same with social rules and moral values, if everyone is entitled to be free from the fellow man, then no one can impose is authority over anyone, if you use force or aggression over anyone, it was you who broke the rules and the first place, therefore there is legitimacy to use force against you.
It's really very simple to grasp. 
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 03:40 Post subject: |
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Banning in the void, man you must have done sth very very wrong 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 03:41 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | Well.. if everything goes, shouldn't senseless temp-bans be part of that as well?  |
No, because he is using unlegitimate authority over me which wasn't provoked in any way since I haven't broke any rule!
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- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 03:46 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | Banning in the void, man you must have done sth very very wrong |
No, just messed with long pages of the same gif on the best gif ever.
Horrordoe!?!?!? just felt like banning me because since he somehow believes (incorrectly) that my political standpoint is wrong on any way, he felt like making a joke and temp banning me for one hour, when in fact he doesn't realize that he just, once again, proved how any system of authority is wrong and always leads to corruption, as he did it right now, temp banning me without legitimate cause, he use the authority that was given to him, and used it for personal reasons! Trying to prove authority is legitimate and correct while participating in such an act of corruption certainly doesn't give Statism any more legitimacy or rightfulness...
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
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TSR69
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 05:04 Post subject: |
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Just move on, I love ya, but expect a ban or two. |
Everytime you say "not this shit again" the first thing that comes to mind, systematically, is the abstract example that we are two Nazi's in the SS, and I keep on telling you that somehow it's wrong to send people to their deaths and your only reply is "not this shit again", because you see, statism is just the same, hidden under layers of false argumentation, but in it's core is just the same thing, and allowing this to continue without mentioning it or discussing actively of ways to bring it down, is just the same as the other german that chooses to ignore discussing it while he is helping perpetuating the murder of innocent people.
And I love you to, and I wasn't banned for discussing politics, but rather for tampering with gifs on the useless void, the mod who banned me, though it was fun to somehow to give me a ban message about rules and authority as both a joke and at the same time as somewhat of a proof that authority is justified, while completely ignoring the fact that he just proved how easily authority leads to corruption, which is why we need to end the state once and for all!
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 05:06 Post subject: Re: Without rules?!? |
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| iconized wrote: | | Ronhrin wrote: | Who temp banned me from trolling around on the useless void...
Which in itself allows for everything!... |
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 05:21 Post subject: |
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| Spazmotic wrote: | | I'll admit, I didn't see the reason you were banned as I was pretty busy this week, guess I just assumed. But honestly I'd let it go, not like you're going to get a settlement, or protest for a week until all of the mods step down, let's just party cause it's friday my man |
I'm not protesting for the mods to step down, I'm protesting for the state to end, there's a great deal of difference between leadership and authority.
The internet, as it is now, is a pure anarchistic system, it is that which most serious modern age anarchistic thinkers want to transpose into the real world.
You might be thinking that moderarion and administration is a form of authority, but it's not, it's a form of leadership, the difference is that this forum isn't imposed over me, I can participate in it freely, and leave if I get bored of it.
It's not the same with the state, simply because the entire planet is covered by state power and you simply cannot "leave", you can go live on a tent village somewhere, but the state still has "legitimacy" of claiming that land and throw you out or charge you for using it.
This is the big difference, imposition through force, you are in a constant hostage situation with the state, don't believe it? Just try missing out paying your taxes or declare the ownership of your property (and pay the according tax) and see what happens.
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I understand, but you've got to understand that in this situation, you are in a state sistuation, where the desires of the few WILL outrank the desires of the many.. i'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish with this thread beyond minor civil unrest.
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 05:35 Post subject: |
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| Spazmotic wrote: | | I understand, but you've got to understand that in this situation, you are in a state sistuation, where the desires of the few WILL outrank the desires of the many.. i'm not sure what you're hoping to accomplish with this thread beyond minor civil unrest. |
Democracy == Rule of the people
Democracy =/= Rule of the majority
This is one the the biggest misconceptions of political philosophy, the rule of a majority was only mixed with the concept of democracy when attempting to mix democracy with a sovereign state, something that in theory was always incompatible.
Rule of a majority is a mob rule, a mafia, it is not a moral system or organization and it will never be, you can justify it any way you want, just as Hitler tried to justify murder, but somethings are always wrong, regardless.
I'll keep on screaming to the four winds that the state needs to end, and whether it ends tomorrow or in five hundred years, it is irrelevant, what is relevant is that I am empirically and morally correct about this issue, and for each person that I can show the reality of this system, I earn a $600 commission and an extra 10 years of life.
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Seriously, for each person that I can make actively reject the state for the evil that it is, I know I'm doing a great thing for that person individually, and for civilization as a whole! |
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 09:44 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: | | Spazmotic wrote: |
Just move on, I love ya, but expect a ban or two. |
Everytime you say "not this shit again" the first thing that comes to mind, systematically, is the abstract example that we are two Nazi's in the SS, and I keep on telling you that somehow it's wrong to send people to their deaths and your only reply is "not this shit again", because you see, statism is just the same, hidden under layers of false argumentation, but in it's core is just the same thing, and allowing this to continue without mentioning it or discussing actively of ways to bring it down, is just the same as the other german that chooses to ignore discussing it while he is helping perpetuating the murder of innocent people.
And I love you to, and I wasn't banned for discussing politics, but rather for tampering with gifs on the useless void, the mod who banned me, though it was fun to somehow to give me a ban message about rules and authority as both a joke and at the same time as somewhat of a proof that authority is justified, while completely ignoring the fact that he just proved how easily authority leads to corruption, which is why we need to end the state once and for all! |
OMG, the hyperbole used in your post was just flabbergasting Ronhrin. How the HELL could you pull a Godwin over this?
You have no sense of humour
You're stuck in a psychosis where you cannot discuss ANYTHING without bringing in your political views and try to turn every single subject into a pro-anarchy discussion.
You use whatever you can to promote your views over others.
And the funniest part, you do all this in the USELESS VOID.... 
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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Just like christians, except with politics! Woo. >_>
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 10:24 Post subject: |
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Dictatorship!!
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 11:27 Post subject: |
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...thats why we need a leader elected by the people rather than a couple of leaders selected by a few!
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 13:03 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 13:24 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 19th Feb 2011 14:05 Post subject: |
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| Ronhrin wrote: |
Everytime you say "not this shit again" the first thing that comes to mind, systematically, is the abstract example that we are two Nazi's in the SS, |
Just stop, please; to try and compare this situation, the worlds situation to nazi-facism etc. is not only embarrassing for you but pretty much aswell for the idea you stand for.
*adds Rohnrin to ignore list once again*
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he usually keep his thoughts about how the world should be in threads that are relevant to his views.
It's up to you if you wanna point out his stupidity...but putting him on ignore?
