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Back on the topic:
| Quote: | | you are missing one little thing: daemon and alcohol developers are working real hard to make starforce perfectly clonable, as you can clone and burn/mount safedisc 4 and securom 7. |
I really do not care how they will deal with Splinter Cell. Clone would be good to. I just do not want to have the DVD in my drive while playing.
I hope Alcohol will release a fast update based on Splinter Cell Starforce version and maybe Daemon Tools will be out soon.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 13:29 Post subject: |
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And when is the new Daemon tools v 4.0 expected to come out?
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 13:35 Post subject: |
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| Amiet01 wrote: | | And when is the new Daemon tools v 4.0 expected to come out? |
check the dtools news page.
http://www.daemon-tools.cc/dtcc/portal/portal.php
i guess it's not too far away. emulate sf3 like daemon emulates safedisck 4 (cd image mounted and the games works flawlessy) should be a nice solution
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 13:57 Post subject: |
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Same thing happened last year with Toca 2,
people said it would be released within a
week and... the game never had a proper
scene release (well I've been able to play it
lately but w/ mini-image & Starfuck and all
that crap....)
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 14:16 Post subject: |
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LOL, this is a great thread, and Boulotaur2024 is right, all p2p teen noobs are whining about this game just like they did with toca2 (although he meant it in a different way). Geez, if you really want the damn game buy it and stop whining, Shadow X is absolutly right, and i hope some admins here take their time to read the complete 17 pages of crap (well some posts have actually been usefull) ...
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 14:40 Post subject: |
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| Boulotaur2024 wrote: | Same thing happened last year with Toca 2,
people said it would be released within a
week and... the game never had a proper
scene release (well I've been able to play it
lately but w/ mini-image & Starfuck and all
that crap....) |
I agree - I’m too lazy to hassle with all the hoops you have to jump through to get this crap working.
While I’m here - I love the guys who keep saying stuff like "the scene will never die" No - why do you say that? All of us here are just sitting around contributing fat diddly squat like a bunch of kids whining for our ice ream - doing fuck all to earn the money to buy – “I want – I want”.
“While we do nothing – some of us have been doing it for longer and have better access to pirated games – and we have many posts on NFORCE and therefore can tell you, with some authority, that you are a noob and don’t know what you are talking about – the scene will never die because it’s been going through change for years and this shit has happened before!!!!!!”
Really? Come on - wake up and smell the roses – internet piracy has increased a million fold over the past 5 years –and is set to get worse – along with music and DVD piracy it costs Billions of dollars – so as you can appreciate – these companies are fighting for their lives – no – I’m sorry - this has never happened before..
The problem you don’t seem to grasp is that the company who made SF3 is getting very rich. I'm led to believe game companies make millions for every week the game isn’t available on “the scene” well, while all the crackers are busy trying to crack the latest version – the well paid and highly motivated Starforce crew and busy little beavers working on SF4 and SF5. There are some great games in that list that floats around every now and then with uncracked games – along with games without cracked updates, and I know that list will grow. The groups don’t get money for what they do - just ungrateful pricks like us whining...all they do it for is some stupid ego boost for being the quickest and best - when they realize it's not really worth going to jail for - and that no one really gives a shit who does what as long as we get our free games - they may well give up.
I just hope the game companies put some of this extra money into making better games – hire some script writers for your action games for a start (Hl2 – Farcry,Doom 3 anyone?)
Again they will crack this game - but by then no one will care and there will be a new version of SF3 .
It’s been fun.
Now I’ll have to buy Ravenshield – damn.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 14:46 Post subject: |
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Well, time will show.
So far Splinter Cell release is a dark scenario.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 14:57 Post subject: |
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Ok, that's it - I'm buying it.
Interinactive wrote:
Achievement unlocked: More unoptimised than a Ubishit game
No worries. The Division is just around the corner. Devil Troll
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 14:58 Post subject: |
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/*If this isnt the in the right topic, pls move - could be considered both scene and sc3*/
I had a thought.
the whole warez culture, more so the lower outlets, but as a whole expect WAY TO MUCH from release groups such as hlm, rld etc. We expect pre-retail everything in a sense, or day of retail releases. I can't lie, when april fools hit, i was bent at the fact that SC3 wasn't cracked out yet - really bent - as were many ppl on here and every other "warez" or tech site i visted.
But really, wtf are we bent about?
The fact that a buncha smart guys, who have wives/kids/pets, who risk their ass' when putting out releases for us - for FREE, may be having trouble with the protection or simply don't have time (i dont think that is the case mind u) is no reason to be upset.
As with plenty other games like Project: Snowblind and such, cracked versions will come out. SF3 is a slap in the face to end users...how do you think the "professionals" feel about it? Its like SF is saying they arent good enough - it a test.
SC3 will be cracked, may take a few more weeks, maybe today - who knows?
I just really think all this talk about the "scene" is dead is retarded just because one game is protected really well...If you made a sick game like SC3, would you really want a buncha guys basically sayin fuck you and ur hard work? No. You'd protect that shit everyway you could.
Im not saying that most games arent overpriced and not worth it...I agree with the way in which i purchase games 
But for real...its a battle between groups of ppl with more talent than 90% of the ppl "in the scene".
I really think when we complain, bitch, get way off topic bitchin about other things, all were doin is makin ourselves look stupid in the eyes of the ppl who provide this shit for us.
I know lots of ppl think the groups could careless about a buncha noobs basically (cuz unless u can crack like them, u really are noob, me included - u know, u "should" be able to crack ur own games lol seen that somewhere) but im sure from time to time, atleast one guy from reloaded, hoodlum, vng, ultima even, has dropped by nforce and the like.
This is popular site...and, not to mention the fact that they crack shit for accolades, as far as i am aware. So, if me and a few guys spent the time cracking SC3, seeing its such a big release, i'd really want to see what the "public" has to say about things.
Anyway, i just think we should stop all the bitching and maybe should close this thread and a new one is started that has a little more strict guidelines...like actual discussing of the game lol
Just my thoughts 
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 14:59 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | all they do it for is some stupid ego boost for being the quickest and best - when they realize it's not really worth going to jail for - and that no one really gives a shit who does what as long as we get our free games - they may well give up. |
agree, man. very often i wonder about the same problem, specifically when actually we have only two active groups: Reloaded and Hoodlum and both of them can't deal with Splinter Cell like games. bad news? here'we go: Ubisoft will use Starforce on all the games. furthcomming months will be interesting.
| Quote: | | There is no realase ? No clone CD? I ask that because o have a USB 2 drive |
no release, no working clone. we're waiting for the newest Daemon Tools and Alcohol update.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 15:05 Post subject: |
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LOL you guys still don't have it? Damn.
MOV game store; GET splintercell3; execute;
God dayum.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 15:11 Post subject: |
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I bought it already but I would like to put this damn DVD away.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 15:41 Post subject: |
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The more publisher start to use starforce 3 the more crackers are going to trie to crack starforce 3. So it stays equal
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 16:10 Post subject: |
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Hehe...this is pretty funny. EVERY time this happens the noobs in here talk about the scene is gonna die and so on...why can't you just realize that thing takes time?
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 16:10 Post subject: |
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Does it work if you run the dvd off a networked dvdrom? Or does it have to be a usb 2 drive?
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 17:12 Post subject: |
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I have an idea. Maybe it's an old one. If you mount the mini-image from another computer in your network could you play it then?
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 17:15 Post subject: |
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| dN wrote: | LOL you guys still don't have it? Damn.
MOV game store; GET splintercell3; execute;
God dayum. |
No, that sucks. The rel will arrive, don't worry. I still have too many donwnloaded/unplayed games...
11th "Thou shalt not flash"
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 18:34 Post subject: Direct2Drive |
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I've been browsing around the various forums, and I have one lingering question I have not seen answered. This game is now available on a website called Direct2Drive (if you don't know, it allows you legally download games for a price - Chaos Theory is $50), and has been since Monday. The game cannot be protected with Starforce by definition, and in addition, the website claims you can back up games you download on cd or dvd.
There's probably some protection on it, sure, but how major can it be seeing as it can't do disc checks and you can burn your own game. Considering the skills of some of these groups, cracking this should be a walk in the park.
The only remotely possible theory I can come up with is that the major groups find it beneath them to crack that and not the retail version with SF3. Even considering this possibility, however, someone should have cracked this game by now. Anyone have any ideas?
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 18:41 Post subject: Re: Direct2Drive |
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| Eagle784 wrote: | I've been browsing around the various forums, and I have one lingering question I have not seen answered. This game is now available on a website called Direct2Drive (if you don't know, it allows you legally download games for a price - Chaos Theory is $50), and has been since Monday. The game cannot be protected with Starforce by definition, and in addition, the website claims you can back up games you download on cd or dvd.
There's probably some protection on it, sure, but how major can it be seeing as it can't do disc checks and you can burn your own game. Considering the skills of some of these groups, cracking this should be a walk in the park.
The only remotely possible theory I can come up with is that the major groups find it beneath them to crack that and not the retail version with SF3. Even considering this possibility, however, someone should have cracked this game by now. Anyone have any ideas? |
http://www.direct2drive.com/staticpage.aspx?topic=help#6
| Code: | [b]I want to put my game on 2 more computers at my house, can I do that?
No. The games are for one person, not multiple. While we appreciate you own many computers, we are sure you don't play on more than one at a time. The game is not to be shared on a private network or otherwise.[/b] |
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 18:47 Post subject: |
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@Eagle784, there is even starforce 3 for cd-r's. The sf driver that is deliverd with the game tells sf 3 how many times it may be coppied and makes the cd-r special by adding something.
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 18:53 Post subject: |
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Yes, as I said, I'm sure D2D games are protected. But the protection must be minor, considering the entire game resides on your hard drive and can be played from there. Certainly there's no SF3 on it. And there's no server authentication; you don't have to be online to play. Anyone know anything about what protection they do use, and why it hasn't been cracked yet?
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 18:55 Post subject: |
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Ah thanks, HeroMan, that makes sense.
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ollax
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 18:57 Post subject: |
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Fake?
Mulitlanguage?
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory PC Fr par Snake
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 18:58 Post subject: |
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| ollax wrote: | Fake?
Mulitlanguage?
Splinter Cell Chaos Theory PC Fr par Snake |
usb drive release... as all the others
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 19:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 20:46 Post subject: |
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| Eagle784 wrote: | | Yes, as I said, I'm sure D2D games are protected. But the protection must be minor, considering the entire game resides on your hard drive and can be played from there. Certainly there's no SF3 on it. And there's no server authentication; you don't have to be online to play. Anyone know anything about what protection they do use, and why it hasn't been cracked yet? |
All games on Direct2Drive are activated online. We use Trymedia Activemark to license your game
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Apr 2005 20:47 Post subject: |
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| Eagle784 wrote: | | Yes, as I said, I'm sure D2D games are protected. But the protection must be minor, considering the entire game resides on your hard drive and can be played from there. Certainly there's no SF3 on it. And there's no server authentication; you don't have to be online to play. Anyone know anything about what protection they do use, and why it hasn't been cracked yet? |
All games on Direct2Drive are activated online. We use Trymedia Activemark to license your game
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ollax
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WTF is this usb drive stuff? I have been offline for a couple of weeks an all of a sudden there is a new player in town! Somebody please give me a recap please!
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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