Some questions: Acer 24" LED VGA/HDMI
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 21:25    Post subject:
nice write up for me thanks Very Happy

im now looking at leads..
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 21:27    Post subject:
my tv maybe shit, dunno about his curricular activities however, but my monitor is decent
on paper it's all great and we can go on endlessly i just prefer hdmi over vga, to me it's much sharper and that's how i like it Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 21:28    Post subject:
<3 pwerelds

Awesome write up, thanks dude.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 21:46    Post subject:
sabin that 3mm adapter for the audio leads into pc whats the proper name for it or site for that one u showed? ive tried the normal typings for such but cant seem to find two phono leads into a 3mm jack adapter..

this looks like it would do the job?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/3-5mm-Stereo-Plug-Phono-Plugs/dp/B00077DC3I/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1289594042&sr=8-16

someone stated they cause noise and crackle etc so maybe something else will be better.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 21:52    Post subject:
Try this: "Stereo 3.5mm Male to RCA Female adapter". Play around with the order, or try 2xRCA Female/1x3.5mm Stereo or something like that Wink

Here's an example on Newegg Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 21:56    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
Try this: "Stereo 3.5mm Male to RCA Female adapter". Play around with the order, or try 2xRCA Female/1x3.5mm Stereo or something like that Wink

Here's an example on Newegg Smile


there is this one but one of the reviews said it didnt work for his xbox sound. no idea why, just a bit worrying i hate ordering twice if u know what i mean Very Happy

http://www.amazon.co.uk/3-5mm-Stereo-Jack-RCA-Adapter/dp/B000Q8FEQQ/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1289594474&sr=8-17

bloody cheap price though that lol,

hmm maybe its this one, no negative about xbox/projector project there lol he seems happy enough..

generally they should all bloody work its not like there is anything fancy inside.. id make my own but cant be arsed lol..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/3-5mm-Stereo-Jack-RCA-Adapter/dp/B001D2TPRI/ref=sr_1_114?ie=UTF8&m=AOM7YUJHF35YE&s=generic&qid=1289594865&sr=1-114
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 22:06    Post subject:
I think that guy just screwed up some settings or connection, that adapter should work fine, it's exactly what you're looking for Smile

And yeah, these things are easy to make, you should see some of the crap my dad and I have cooked up in our time Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 22:27    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
I think that guy just screwed up some settings or connection, that adapter should work fine, it's exactly what you're looking for Smile

And yeah, these things are easy to make, you should see some of the crap my dad and I have cooked up in our time Very Happy


Yeah exactly lol, my old man is like that, from his work days and being a ham radio operator for years the shit hes made and knocked up is beyond Very Happy ... But its also good to do hands on stuff like that.. But then you end up repairing shit for other people all the time, ontop of pc crap for family, it gets old and tiresome after a while...

I was happy my samsung monitor was easy to fix from the dreaded flickering issue, but everybody uses cheap ass capacitors these days so its no shock really..
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 22:34    Post subject:
hey can i just use the audio visual lead of original xbox tv shit anyway to that adapter? i know it has 3 leads and needs only two used but surely that be fine? its prob cheaper to buy phono leads of length if needs be male to female rather than a new package for it that cost like 16 notes or even more..
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 22:46    Post subject:
I have no idea what the original cable is like, maybe sabin can help?

I inherited my dad's philosophy of "doesn't work? I'll make it work!" btw Razz
Cable too short? Fuck it, cut one end off and solder an extra bit on. Ikea construction doesn't hold properly? No problem, saw it until it fits properly and just put a screw in it! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 22:57    Post subject:
Nope, sorry mate - they're completely different cables. You can't use the Classic AV cable on the 360, they don't even connect let alone work. Look on eBay for a proper HDMI cable that has Audio Out sockets. Should find one pretty cheap, just don't buy a non-MS branded one.


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 22:57    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
I have no idea what the original cable is like, maybe sabin can help?

I inherited my dad's philosophy of "doesn't work? I'll make it work!" btw Razz
Cable too short? Fuck it, cut one end off and solder an extra bit on. Ikea construction doesn't hold properly? No problem, saw it until it fits properly and just put a screw in it! Very Happy


yeah extending leads is not that hard as long as its not that shitty headphone cable with the fiber thin coating shit strandy bollox.. Heck I loath that.

well its basically a 3 phono lead rca set. audio and visual reb white yellow leads std shit.. so could prob use just two for the audio and thats it.. well in theory its teh same as a lead u buy for the job ur just leaving out the yellow one normally if i remember..
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 22:59    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Nope, sorry mate - they're completely different cables. You can't use the Classic AV cable on the 360, they don't even connect let alone work. Look on eBay for a proper HDMI cable that has Audio Out sockets. Should find one pretty cheap, just don't buy a non-MS branded one.


shit now u confused me more, hdmi with proper audio out.. But I wont be using the hdmi for the audio, the audio for non monitor speakers on 360 has to come from the std connection that would be the rca leads no?

i mean look at the official package for it..

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31M-DbD2khL.jpg

see the std connection instead of the male plugs to tv etc they use female so u can output where u want.. surely that lead there is teh same its just femal variety not male..?


http://www.speedtest.net/result/4302967033.png


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 23:01    Post subject:
... my brain hurts. Why are you making this more complex than it has to be? Sad *sigh*

1. Get a sodding AV cable for the 360. It doesn't matter if it's HDMI or VGA. BOTH come with audio outputs. If you use the VGA cable it comes with LR (white/red) audio cables attached.
2. If you choose the HDMI cable you have to buy the RCA audio ones.
3. Connect those cables to a 3.5MM jack and hook that to the LineIn on your PC.

DONE.

Sheesh...
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 23:04    Post subject:
ok calm down lol,

im still betting what i said would work, rca from xbox original cable carries audio if i plugged that into the adapter and to the pc it would be the same as buying another seperate rca audio lead set..

its all about seeing what costs i could save utilizing what i got already thats all sabin, not trying to make it harder Very Happy

I will be using HDMI for the video signal.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 23:05    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:

im still betting what i said would work, rca from xbox original cable carries audio if i plugged that into the adapter and to the pc it would be the same as buying another seperate rca audio lead set..


If they're separate RCA leads that you can remove from the Xbox AV cable then yes, of course they're work Razz
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 23:08    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
moosenoodles wrote:

im still betting what i said would work, rca from xbox original cable carries audio if i plugged that into the adapter and to the pc it would be the same as buying another seperate rca audio lead set..


If they're separate RCA leads that you can remove from the Xbox AV cable then yes, of course they're work Razz


well maybe the leads u got originally with ur xbox were different i dunno, all i know is the arcade box here had a cable that does the audio and video as a scart type plug into the xbox then three coloured phono leads out that plug in the front of my kids 32" tv or via the back with a phono to scart adapter.. Sad no need to go ballistic.. Smile

If u had read in my earlier post you would of seen me saying I wonder if I could save money buy just buying an extension set of rca leads and join it up with the male ends of the xbox orginal lead Very Happy that way I dont have to buy over priced bullscrap for the xbox lead wise Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 23:14    Post subject:




This is what you need. I'm done helping. I'm not going ballistic and I read your post perfectly, I'm trying to help you but you're just speaking confusing nonsense and then getting ratty when I mention it. I'm done because I'm sick of taking your shit all the time.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 23:18    Post subject:
what the fuck lol... there are no smirks so ill take it your being serious lol thanks for the pics btw and yes that does the job, But was saying i might not have to buy that adapter with the optical on it as that lead already exists on the xbox itself anyhow.. Sad

oh well sick of your meandering as well you seem to think everything is about pissing you off you got serious fucking problem sabin sort the shit out ffs its not just me im sure that notices it i bet Sad

sad sad day as your generally a great guy on here but your like the incredible hulk, or Jekyll and Hyde.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 23:28    Post subject:
u need to dismount plastic cover of av cable in order to fit hdmi cable, this way no need to buy xtra audio cable for hdmi use

yeah sabin rages for nothing sometimes, thought u got used to it, he just wanted u to get with his suggestion instead of my, but wtv
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 23:44    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
u need to dismount plastic cover of av cable in order to fit hdmi cable, this way no need to buy xtra audio cable for hdmi use

yeah sabin rages for nothing sometimes, thought u got used to it, he just wanted u to get with his suggestion instead of my, but wtv


I dont mind who's ideas work etc, it was open discussion about options Sad I dont really dislike anyone on here I toy and joke alot and insult apparently that goes to far but I never really dispise or "hate" its a bit strong a word really.. Yeah plenty of nubs at times Very Happy but I can openly call myself one, can the rest of them I wonder..

Even anyone I may of said to others at times is a total dickhead or something, dont mean I wont converse with them just means its a bit of steam letting off and that one dont see eye to eye.. shit its pretty normal but forums are worse places for such banter.

But I wont go off on one because I feel someone is not taking note of what I am saying, or feel that is what is happening.. gee I dunno. This place is the fucking pits at times Very Happy But the diverse info and stuff keeps me here and not a perma ban from the mods of course Wink

Ive yet to make another login but you never know lol..
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Nov 2010 23:55    Post subject:
Now you're ranting about the whole thing instead of ignoring it. That's probably what gets you in trouble all the time. Smug Wink


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Nov 2010 00:03    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
Now you're ranting about the whole thing instead of ignoring it. That's probably what gets you in trouble all the time. Smug Wink


wouldnt call it ranting, im just miffed at how he gets so short so fast.. its like how I would expect some drug user that cant get his fix to react to be honest.. you know that ok one min fucking down your throat the next?

its already ignored btw lol, so you can stop posting now about me being ranty and not ignoring it Razz

P.s i only really carried on about it cause I actually like sabin, he just gets pissed at me alot and I honestly never see why..
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2010 18:15    Post subject:
Is this scaling here option common for what i must do to get rid of bars at a 1920x1080 res by the OS setting? the scaling options were off initially and yet 1920 did not cover my monitor it had black bars either side..

I turned on that scaling doofus and it scaled up fine but is that right way to set this res?

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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2010 19:34    Post subject:
Shouldn't be any scaling needed, and you've got 0% scaling atm so yeah o_O
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2010 20:24    Post subject:
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Shouldn't be any scaling needed, and you've got 0% scaling atm so yeah o_O


Yeah I see what you mean there with the 0% I did notice, what I really was getting at was, when it was not selected it was in the middle and i had black borders Very Happy, So when I enabled that slider with the check box, i had to move the slider to far right and the screen scaled up.. See what I mean? even though I guess its an illusion? cause its growing and reducing the black bar space but then it says 0 on the slider when done Very Happy

Hmm think thats it, anyhow it was weird and wasnt sure it was right as its my first 1080p pc monitor.
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PostPosted: Thu, 18th Nov 2010 22:32    Post subject:
I never connected mine through HDMI, so I think that's why it used some underscan; it was never enabled for either of my monitors (both on DVI) when I had my 5870 Smile
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2010 00:03    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
I never connected mine through HDMI, so I think that's why it used some underscan; it was never enabled for either of my monitors (both on DVI) when I had my 5870 Smile


Yeah this is a hdmi or vga only, i really dont understand why it has a vga lol you cant use the screen with a vga properly it wont let you use the 1920 res ffs... I guess they know well enough Dvi and hdmi is basicaly same digital signal one without audio hook.. So they assume you will use a converter like i did from dvi..

oh well its working really well now and looks great Very Happy Took a while to calibrate the colours the std settings were fucking terrible, but its all good now and the black is black the white is white, and the gradients are not all blocky..

Cheers for the input.
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2010 08:49    Post subject:
You can also download an ICC profile from here, made by DigitalVersus specifically for your monitor Smile

I've had great results with their ICC profiles for my Samsung monitor, which is aweful on default settings. I'll have a look at the settings I used for that, but generally you just set the contrast/brightness to something like 75%, set colours to 6500K or so and then load the profile. Worked very well for my Samsung; still not perfect, but at least now greys are actually grey Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Nov 2010 10:15    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
You can also download an ICC profile from here, made by DigitalVersus specifically for your monitor Smile

I've had great results with their ICC profiles for my Samsung monitor, which is aweful on default settings. I'll have a look at the settings I used for that, but generally you just set the contrast/brightness to something like 75%, set colours to 6500K or so and then load the profile. Worked very well for my Samsung; still not perfect, but at least now greys are actually grey Very Happy


sounds familiar, I use a specific one for my samsung 226bw, which is great but I still think the white is a shade tinted yellow almost.. It might just be compared to the new screen I got as the whites are like very bright and look almost true white.. Ill check that profile out, and thanks for that as you probably had to take a look for it Very Happy ( appreciated ) ..

I am running this new one at 6500k as I think its prob the best to start with, and most stay at 6500k anyhow so far as ive noticed with all my monitors I have had.
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