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AKofC




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 03:40    Post subject:
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if you weren't careful in Origins, you could kind of end up in this branching situation where you have 1,000 quests open and it'd be very easy to lose your way.


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It has begun. Now quest markers are no longer even enough for THIS generation of lol wut
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 04:03    Post subject:
I hate this generation. I truly, deeply, seriously fucking DESPISE this generation of gamers *and* game developers.
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AKofC




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 04:15    Post subject:
Yeah, I mean come on. Seriously. How hard is it to read the fucking journal. Or pay attention long enough to remember what you're supposed to be doing. Is Bioware targeting gamers with ADD or something?

Well at least we still have Obsidian and their great ambitious games that tend to run short on development time and budget. But still.


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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 04:51    Post subject:
Skipinder wrote:
Edit: New footage, I think it's DA2 Wink



That's almost exactly the same crap I played at Gamescom. A little updated, but it's almost the same.
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xDBS




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 05:27    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I hate this generation. I truly, deeply, seriously fucking DESPISE this generation of gamers *and* game developers.


You me and both man.

AKofC wrote:
Quote:
if you weren't careful in Origins, you could kind of end up in this branching situation where you have 1,000 quests open and it'd be very easy to lose your way.


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It has begun. Now quest markers are no longer even enough for THIS generation of lol wut


lol. Agreed, don't see how you can get lost in DA:O
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SilverBlue




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 07:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I hate this generation. I truly, deeply, seriously fucking DESPISE this generation of gamers *and* game developers.


Yah its time to abandon all hope and kiss the humanities ass good bye.
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Neon
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 07:44    Post subject:
In times like this I feel bad buying DA:O Ultimate Edition for 5 euros.
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GeezForce




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 07:49    Post subject:
Skipinder wrote:
Edit: New footage, I think it's DA2 Wink



So.. This is basically Kingdom Hearts, just without the disney characters?
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trancers




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 08:05    Post subject:
they should show pc version too wich has that third person view
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tonizito
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 10:26    Post subject:
AKofC wrote:
Quote:
if you weren't careful in Origins, you could kind of end up in this branching situation where you have 1,000 quests open and it'd be very easy to lose your way.


...

It has begun. Now quest markers are no longer even enough for THIS generation of lol wut
We have gone from "not enough quests" to "there are too many quests".
Laughing


boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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Skipinder




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 10:53    Post subject:
The lead designer locked a thread on the forums that had the new footage posted. Even he thought it was shite. Very Happy
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OLime




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 11:50    Post subject:
Skipinder wrote:
The lead designer locked a thread on the forums that had the new footage posted. Even he thought it was shite. Very Happy


More like, it's easier to prevent an uproar with bullshit like: "This is not finalized, just a demo with hand-picked features, to give an impression. We are still working on it, and the gameplay might change", when everybody can see in the vid that either he is lying about gameplay altering changes still being made just a few months before release or that a major delay is incoming due to all the negative voices. Shitstorm either way Very Happy .
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chiv




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 12:04    Post subject:
seriously.. i dont know what you people would do if you didnt have games to bitch about.. probably wasting your lives on being productive members of society.. curing cancer or inventing intergalactic space travel or death rays.... anyway, im just glad i dont live in a world where id have to worry about such things Cool Face


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OLime




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 12:25    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
seriously.. i dont know what you people would do if you didnt have games to bitch about.. probably wasting your lives on being productive members of society.. curing cancer or inventing intergalactic space travel or death rays.... anyway, im just glad i dont live in a world where id have to worry about such things Cool Face


Ah, well, I am just typing the occasional posting while sitting on my desk, while writing a joinder to some stupid civil action. Ranting helps my creativity and let's me vent off a little, helping to stay objective even if my colleague on the other side is an ass. Sorry for not being a productive member of society Very Happy.
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chiv




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 12:29    Post subject:
its ok, most people arent productive... but personally, i believe thats what makes us human, u know? i mean if we were all productive, we'd be robots or something! no... no our general uselessness is what makes us who we are! rise up, you bitchy humpers! COMPLAIN! RANT! BE FREEEEEE!!!!!


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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 12:36    Post subject:
They even added a symbol which answer is which (good, bad, bla) in the conversation wheel, yaay. Now you always know whats what!!!!
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 13:11    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
In times like this I feel bad buying DA:O Ultimate Edition for 5 euros.


Did you see the shit I've gone through just getting the fucking thing working? I *do* regret buying it, even for five Euro. BioWere are a dead company, nothing but a collection of spineless hasbeens. I can't wait until EA liquidise them.
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Yuri




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 13:16    Post subject:
AKofC wrote:
Quote:
if you weren't careful in Origins, you could kind of end up in this branching situation where you have 1,000 quests open and it'd be very easy to lose your way.


...

It has begun. Now quest markers are no longer even enough for THIS generation of lol wut


Nooooooooooooooo
But that was the best part of Dragon Age... to be lost in so many quests and doing them at your own pace Sad



1 and 2 are still amazing.
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JanKowalski82




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 13:24    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Neon wrote:
In times like this I feel bad buying DA:O Ultimate Edition for 5 euros.


Did you see the shit I've gone through just getting the fucking thing working? I *do* regret buying it, even for five Euro. BioWere are a dead company, nothing but a collection of spineless hasbeens. I can't wait until EA liquidise them.


And how is that BioWare's fault that EAStore forgot to include DLC codes in their e-mails ?
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 13:26    Post subject:
JanKowalski82 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Neon wrote:
In times like this I feel bad buying DA:O Ultimate Edition for 5 euros.


Did you see the shit I've gone through just getting the fucking thing working? I *do* regret buying it, even for five Euro. BioWere are a dead company, nothing but a collection of spineless hasbeens. I can't wait until EA liquidise them.


And how is that BioWare's fault that EAStore forgot to include DLC codes in their e-mails ?


I got the DLC codes and the very next day the DLC was AGAIN set to Unauthorised.



You know what? I really dislike you. Ever since you got here, all you do is troll and flame and insult people. Every single post you make is antagonising, or insulting, or trolling. You serve absolutely no purpose here except to be a little bitch.

Take a hike.
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chiv




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 13:30    Post subject:
*munches popcorn*


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 14:06    Post subject:
yuri999 wrote:
AKofC wrote:
Quote:
if you weren't careful in Origins, you could kind of end up in this branching situation where you have 1,000 quests open and it'd be very easy to lose your way.


...

It has begun. Now quest markers are no longer even enough for THIS generation of lol wut


Nooooooooooooooo
But that was the best part of Dragon Age... to be lost in so many quests and doing them at your own pace Sad


But you know, who plays this game sitting in a couch doesn't really need to get lost in a questlog full of complex and useless objectives. Just give him one quest at time, a big overpowered sword able to butcher dozens of

enemies, a simplified interface that doesn't distract him from the action and he'll be happy.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 14:06    Post subject:
Ixi.... Crying or Very sad
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JanKowalski82




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 14:08    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
JanKowalski82 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:


Did you see the shit I've gone through just getting the fucking thing working? I *do* regret buying it, even for five Euro. BioWere are a dead company, nothing but a collection of spineless hasbeens. I can't wait until EA liquidise them.


And how is that BioWare's fault that EAStore forgot to include DLC codes in their e-mails ?


I got the DLC codes and the very next day the DLC was AGAIN set to Unauthorised.



You know what? I really dislike you. Ever since you got here, all you do is troll and flame and insult people. Every single post you make is antagonising, or insulting, or trolling. You serve absolutely no purpose here except to be a little bitch.

Take a hike.


I do sometimes point out when a poster makes a ridiculous, illogical statement. It hurts, when you're that poster, doesn't it ? But I never use insulting language or attack anyone personally, like you just did and like you always eventually do, when you don't like someone. You also constantly insult game developers and publishers ... whose games you play, mostly for free.

And why do you actually dislike me ? Because I said that Black Ops (you are so hyped about right now, after playing it on 360) is the "same old shit" repacked and sold for the Xth time ?

Saying that my "every single post is ..." is simply a slanderous lie. Fortunately everyone can find out about this in my profile.

More on topic. Apart from the missing DLC code (which is EAStore's fault) I had absolutely no problems with downloading, installing and playing DA:O Ultimate Edition.
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xDBS




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 14:10    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
yuri999 wrote:
AKofC wrote:


...

It has begun. Now quest markers are no longer even enough for THIS generation of lol wut


Nooooooooooooooo
But that was the best part of Dragon Age... to be lost in so many quests and doing them at your own pace Sad


But you know, who plays this game sitting in a couch doesn't really need to get lost in a questlog full of complex and useless objectives. Just give him one quest at time, a big overpowered sword able to butcher dozens of

enemies, a simplified interface that doesn't distract him from the action and he'll be happy.


lmao. hahaha.
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OLime




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 14:13    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
i mean if we were all productive, we'd be robots or something! no... no our general uselessness is what makes us who we are! rise up, you bitchy humpers! COMPLAIN! RANT! BE FREEEEEE!!!!!


More lawyers, less robots!

And this:
Mike Laidlaw wrote:
The stars offer an at-a-glace indicator of the weapon, armor or item's usefulness compared to your current level. An item that used to be five stars at level one will slowly drop off to none when you're in your teens. The goal there is to make it easy to tell what's above and below the curve for your current character.

And, of course, you can either hover to get a tooltip, or use X (on consoles) to inspect the item in question to get a detailed breakdown of what properties the item has, damage it does, or whatever.

This is pretty consistent with the rest of the game. I'm a big fan of making at-a-glance information clear and easily digestible, while having another layer underneath that lets you dig deeper and get neck deep in the statistics. You'll see this approach in character creation, inventory, crafting and so on."


Somebody needs to understand that not every game should or even can be simplified so that even your grandma can play it on your 360. Some games are complex by nature, and that is what is good about them and distinguishes. Where is the appeal in an RPG if you take every aspect that goes deeper than "clicking here is good, clicking there is bad, oh, and the stars say your armor is nice, no need to equip something else." If people do not want to get into a game's system to understand it and to play it how they like, maybe this kind of game is not for them.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 14:15    Post subject:
JanKowalski82 wrote:

I do sometimes point out when a poster makes a ridiculous, illogical statement. It hurts, when you're that poster, doesn't it ?


I never made a ridiculous or illogical statement. Go and read the BioWere forums and then tell me there's no issues with Ultimate Edition. You're a troll, plain and simple, posting inflammatory comments with the aim of drawing a reaction. Just like you have in every other thread. The reason I dislike you? You remind me of an old poster on here who took it upon himself to be the forum appointed colossal douchebag, whose sole purpose was to troll people and attempt to correct everything they said.

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More on topic. Apart from the missing DLC code (which is EAStore's fault) I had absolutely no problems with downloading, installing and playing DA:O Ultimate Edition.


Like I said; I got the DLC codes. I registered them. They worked. Next morning they were set to unauthorised despite being on my account. EA's fault? No, not even remotely. So, again, you're a troll. Now piss off.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 14:30    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
I hate this generation. I truly, deeply, seriously fucking DESPISE this generation of gamers *and* game developers.


Noooo, you hate me? Crying or Very sad

Also, game looks like a big pile of garbage with some shit on top lol wut.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 14:31    Post subject:
DarkRohirrim wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
I hate this generation. I truly, deeply, seriously fucking DESPISE this generation of gamers *and* game developers.


Noooo, you hate me? Crying or Very sad


That depends. Do YOU think the listed changes for DA2 are a good thing? Razz

-edit-

Ah. In that case; Nope! You're all good in my eyes <3 It always surprises me when we see a sequel or follow up game differing so drastically from the original... I mean, surely these features WEREN'T asked for! Who the hell bitched about having TOO many quests?! That's the very staple of a good western RPG!

*sigh*
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Surray




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Nov 2010 15:47    Post subject:
yeah fuck that shit.


I just hope that in a decade or two when the majority of games uses photorealistic raytraced graphics with procedurally generated assets we'll see better games again because content creation will be easy as fuck and games will be much much cheaper to create, so developers can take more risks and move away from the fucking mainstream.
until then, I see no hope. it will probably only get even worse with the next generation of consoles.

the night is darkest before the dawn, right? let's hope so, because it doesn't get much darker than it is right now.


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