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 Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 13:51 Post subject: AeroCool Intros XPredator ATX Full-Tower Case |
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AeroCool announced its latest PC case, the PGS B series XPredator. This ATX full-tower makes sure you never run out of room for extra large motherboards such as the EVGA X58 Classified 4-way SLI or the Gigabyte X58A-UD9, multiple water cooling loops, and a heap of hard drives. The case measures all of 600 (H) x 234 (W) x 555 (D) mm, mostly making use of steel. The case is mostly open, with a perforated front, and almost completely perforated side-panel, a gill-like vent on top (Alienware-inspired). Its front-panel lets you control fan speeds, apart from providing three USB 1.1/2.0, one USB 3.0, one eSATA, and audio.
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10 PCI slots  Only thing I don't like is the side with the 4 fans on the side which are probably 80mm |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 14:32 Post subject: |
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Looks awesome indeed but...140€ 
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 14:38 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | ixigia wrote: | | Looks awesome indeed but...140€ |
I paid more than that for my NZXT Lexa Blackline |
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 14:52 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | ixigia wrote: | | Looks awesome indeed but...140€ |
I paid more than that for my NZXT Lexa Blackline |
same, about 100usd Corsair 800D and Lian Li PC-V1000 >.< |
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 14:56 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | sabin1981 wrote: | | ixigia wrote: | | Looks awesome indeed but...140€ |
I paid more than that for my NZXT Lexa Blackline |
same, about 100usd Corsair 800D and Lian Li PC-V1000 >.< |
umm actually 140€>100$
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 15:23 Post subject: |
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im looking at the flow here, looks same flow as anyother case sucks in blows out back and out top wow revolutionary.. you lot will buy your gimmicky fucking bullshit eh
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 16:00 Post subject: |
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Man thats one of a sexy case. Will definately buy it when it hits stores in finland.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 17:18 Post subject: |
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That case can put some serious cooling for GPU´s, lets say like 2 of the side fans blowing in straight to card/cards and 2 of them blowing out. Optimal for coolers like accelero wich blows all hot air inside the case.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 17:43 Post subject: |
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Got a Cooler Master ATCS 840 myself, this is a copy of that, albeit it being slightly "improved" with more fans
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 17:48 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | | moosenoodles wrote: | | im looking at the flow here, looks same flow as anyother case sucks in blows out back and out top wow revolutionary.. you lot will buy your gimmicky fucking bullshit eh |
Error: (€140Case==Gimmicky && 1200WPSU==Useful) will always return false.
Stop trolling moose |
its not trolling its being realistic, just you wont be bothered to admit it, like many others, ok some cases being "bigger" will get a more thorough flow of air, but thats just due to space. Generally 2 fans in front one on top and couple out back is all one needs, fans on the side of a case are ok i guess, dont even turn mine on here its not needed.
I have to Y80's glued side by side reversed pulling and pushing air iwth no side panels on a old network pc here cause the ati fan died on the card ages ago, its worked ok for that but otherwise all this super duper shapes colours and plastic shaping is giving people blinkered horse wear..
its shiny gimme my shinyyyysss precious... lol's ffs |
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 19:19 Post subject: |
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| moosenoodles wrote: | | its not trolling its being realistic, just you wont be bothered to admit it |
Admit what exactly?
If you think this is gimmicky, how on earth is a 1200W PSU which 90% of all systems won't even put a 30% load *not* gimmicky? There's more e-peen involved in having a 1200W (let alone NEEDING) power supply than there is in having a case like this.
Ontopic: I wonder how big the motherboard tray is, because judging from the images, it's not that roomy; pretty cramped in fact :/
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 22:03 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | | moosenoodles wrote: | | its not trolling its being realistic, just you wont be bothered to admit it |
Admit what exactly?
If you think this is gimmicky, how on earth is a 1200W PSU which 90% of all systems won't even put a 30% load *not* gimmicky? There's more e-peen involved in having a 1200W (let alone NEEDING) power supply than there is in having a case like this.
Ontopic: I wonder how big the motherboard tray is, because judging from the images, it's not that roomy; pretty cramped in fact :/ |
no u wally, a 1200watt psu is at least able to provide if needs be, where as covering up a case that works like every other case out there is not providing you much more than looks. Can you not get that? wow ok maybe one wont use all the availability of all 12v rails with the shared amp load but ffs a case these days is basicaly same shell layout with some fancy outter sugar coating to make the wooo and the waaaa buy it cause it "looks" neat..
stop kidding youself im right, ur only arguing now cause you feel stupid for wanting such expensive trash
btw spykes can prob post you of a case that IS different and WILL work better, think he showed one once, where all the component seated areas were sealed off from one another with its OWN air cool source..
bloody cases, gee i got a rectangle thin ali sheet here ill bend it into shapes and fit 6 fans and bolt.earth the board to inside and i bet the air flow and temps be no diff to my 3 diff ones indoors here.
robbed blind as usual.. Buy the fancy cases cause its fancy not cause one thinks its gods gift to airflow. |
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 22:29 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | Not quite the same SpykeZ 
$100 ~= €71 and €140 ~= $196
Both the 800D and Lian-Li are about €230-240 here, so if you got them for $100...well, screw you
Edit: not surprising to be honest, because as much as Steam gets shit for its prices in the EU, they're just following the rest of the market. The king in ripping off is Apple, $1749 (€1246) vs €1799 ($2523) for the base 15" MBP. |
| dingo_d wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | | sabin1981 wrote: |
I paid more than that for my NZXT Lexa Blackline |
same, about 100usd Corsair 800D and Lian Li PC-V1000 >.< |
umm actually 140€>100$ |
durp durp lmao, I forgot to add "more" to it haha, paid almost 300 for the lian li and about 250 for the 800D |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 23:30 Post subject: |
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Still fucked up prices, $250 comes out to about €175 
@ moose: "ok". I thought we already showed you that a PSU with a stupid wattage will still turn out to have a relatively negative impact in the end at low usage, but whatever. Please show us how you're gonna take a sheet of aluminium, create a complete case out of it including some silent fans, dust filters, vents for the airflow, holes for cable routing, brackets to hold the drives, cut out the holes for PSU/motherboard/standoffs/cable management/whateverelse and keep that price super low.
Silverstone tried a different design with their what, Raven I think it is? Even made like 2 or 3 revisions of it and it still does not cool as well as one of these "crappy" "simple" cases :E
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 23:35 Post subject: |
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It looks like a space ship.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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| Posted: Wed, 3rd Nov 2010 23:44 Post subject: |
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| moosenoodles wrote: | | pwerelds wrote: | | moosenoodles wrote: | | its not trolling its being realistic, just you wont be bothered to admit it |
Admit what exactly?
If you think this is gimmicky, how on earth is a 1200W PSU which 90% of all systems won't even put a 30% load *not* gimmicky? There's more e-peen involved in having a 1200W (let alone NEEDING) power supply than there is in having a case like this.
Ontopic: I wonder how big the motherboard tray is, because judging from the images, it's not that roomy; pretty cramped in fact :/ |
no u wally, a 1200watt psu is at least able to provide if needs be, where as covering up a case that works like every other case out there is not providing you much more than looks. Can you not get that? wow ok maybe one wont use all the availability of all 12v rails with the shared amp load but ffs a case these days is basicaly same shell layout with some fancy outter sugar coating to make the wooo and the waaaa buy it cause it "looks" neat..
stop kidding youself im right, ur only arguing now cause you feel stupid for wanting such expensive trash
btw spykes can prob post you of a case that IS different and WILL work better, think he showed one once, where all the component seated areas were sealed off from one another with its OWN air cool source..
bloody cases, gee i got a rectangle thin ali sheet here ill bend it into shapes and fit 6 fans and bolt.earth the board to inside and i bet the air flow and temps be no diff to my 3 diff ones indoors here.
robbed blind as usual.. Buy the fancy cases cause its fancy not cause one thinks its gods gift to airflow. |
those were the Lian Li PC-V series cases
PC-X1000
Most of the price of a Lian Li is in the quality of the materials they use, none of the cases I've handled use that cheap tin and crappy plastic 80% of case use, so in other words, good luck denting it. |
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 00:04 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | Still fucked up prices, $250 comes out to about €175
@ moose: "ok". I thought we already showed you that a PSU with a stupid wattage will still turn out to have a relatively negative impact in the end at low usage, but whatever. Please show us how you're gonna take a sheet of aluminium, create a complete case out of it including some silent fans, dust filters, vents for the airflow, holes for cable routing, brackets to hold the drives, cut out the holes for PSU/motherboard/standoffs/cable management/whateverelse and keep that price super low.
Silverstone tried a different design with their what, Raven I think it is? Even made like 2 or 3 revisions of it and it still does not cool as well as one of these "crappy" "simple" cases :E |
wtf has that got to do with what i said lol, you seem to read what you effing want lol, you really think I was meaning that I was wanting to build a proper sealed case with a bit of ali? you know its not serious lol? its about building a shit container so that the build does not have to be fantastic looking to still give the same temps of such fandangled good looking overpriced bollox lol..
Changes in temps are very marginal with different cases, its more of an epeen thing than my psu for sure lol, oo its got an alien wrapped around its flat metal panel.. I guess it must work better, can you cool me more please mr alien, sure I can "bullshit!", can i get some more amp draw from you mr1200w psu, "sure suck away"..
I see a difference more fool you if you dont.
@spykez, no wasnt that case set, it was that, i think it might of been a case not actually made yet but more an idea, remember it was black with orange trim i think, had like the drive bays outside the main frame was like a tree of small boxes.. |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 09:01 Post subject: |
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That'll be the Thermaltake Level 10 in cooperation with BMW 
I did understand what you were saying, I'm just saying that it's not just the cooling you pay for compared to a cheaper case.
And changes in temperatures really aren't as trivial as you make them appear now. I temporarily used a €40 euro all aluminium nameless case with my current system. With one exhaust at the back, a side intake fan and 2 front intake fans it kept my i5-760@3.6GHz at about 40-41 degrees idle. Stressed I've seen it go up to 84, which is when I shut LinX down, because I didn't feel comfortable doing that.
Exact same setup now in my €140 NZXT Phantom with 1 exhaust at the rear, 1 exhaust at the top, 1 front intake and 2 intake fans at the side it keeps that same setup at 35-36 idle - so yes, that's pretty trivial. Stressed however it only gets up to 71 degrees now - at 4.2 GHz instead of 3.6. That's hardly a trivial difference. The side intake fans don't even blow onto the GPU or CPU; they're at the HDD's - the cheaper case even had that blowing right onto the center of my setup.
The biggest difference however (apart from the fact that I've got a fuckload of room to work with + better cable management), is that this setup is barely audible. Moving my mouse across my cloth mousepad makes more noise than the case does.
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 09:42 Post subject: |
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ah thats the case was discussing maybe if it was possible to have cards outside the mainboard case fed with solid pcI connecting boards.. Was more a discussion if there could be a hardboard connection that would not cause any latency issues.. keeping your cards completely away from the mainboard would be great
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 09:42 Post subject: |
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| moosenoodles wrote: | | pwerelds wrote: | Still fucked up prices, $250 comes out to about €175
@ moose: "ok". I thought we already showed you that a PSU with a stupid wattage will still turn out to have a relatively negative impact in the end at low usage, but whatever. Please show us how you're gonna take a sheet of aluminium, create a complete case out of it including some silent fans, dust filters, vents for the airflow, holes for cable routing, brackets to hold the drives, cut out the holes for PSU/motherboard/standoffs/cable management/whateverelse and keep that price super low.
Silverstone tried a different design with their what, Raven I think it is? Even made like 2 or 3 revisions of it and it still does not cool as well as one of these "crappy" "simple" cases :E |
wtf has that got to do with what i said lol, you seem to read what you effing want lol, you really think I was meaning that I was wanting to build a proper sealed case with a bit of ali? you know its not serious lol? its about building a shit container so that the build does not have to be fantastic looking to still give the same temps of such fandangled good looking overpriced bollox lol..
Changes in temps are very marginal with different cases, its more of an epeen thing than my psu for sure lol, oo its got an alien wrapped around its flat metal panel.. I guess it must work better, can you cool me more please mr alien, sure I can "bullshit!", can i get some more amp draw from you mr1200w psu, "sure suck away"..
I see a difference more fool you if you dont.
@spykez, no wasnt that case set, it was that, i think it might of been a case not actually made yet but more an idea, remember it was black with orange trim i think, had like the drive bays outside the main frame was like a tree of small boxes.. |
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 09:48 Post subject: |
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Less scavenging for nuts SpykeZ! You snooze, you lose!
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| Posted: Thu, 4th Nov 2010 14:51 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | | Less scavenging for nuts SpykeZ! You snooze, you lose! |
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