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 Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 03:18 Post subject: Do 3D movies suck? |
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Simple question, right?
I've been talking to some people lately and most of the seem to agree that 3D just sucks.
And I don't get why?
I understand that for some people the glasses are a hassle and that it's stupid and useless when the movie goes IN YOUR FACE! for two hours straight.
But why does it suck? I don't get it. Then again, haven't seen that many movies in 3D yet.
btw.
Fuck you George Lucas. Re-releasing Star Wars in 3D? On a one movie per year basis starting in 2012? So that by 2017 you can sell us the Star Wars 3D (random optical or whatever type medium) version?
I remember back in the days when Lucas used to make movies...
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 03:24 Post subject: |
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Does 3D suck? No. Do 3D movies suck when the effects are gimmicky for 3D? Yes. Do 3D movies which were originally shot in 2D suck? You bet your ass. Avatar had good 3D, but unfortunately the movie itself sucked. But it certainly wasn't the 3D's fault. Until you start seeing proper and mature films adopt 3D technology, 3D will be little more than a gimmick. And even if Batman 3 is in 3D, you will love the movie not because it's in 3D, but because the movie's plot is good. 3D should only enhance the experience. 
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 03:25 Post subject: |
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Well.. He only made three movies before ruining the Star Wars franchise:
1999 Star wars Episode I - The Phantom Menace
1977 Star Wars
1973 American Graffiti
1971 THX 1138
He's still living off Star Wars (and all that comes with the franchise) even though he nearly destroyed it with the new trilogy. He hasn't made/directed a good movie since the original Star Wars movie (he didn't do the sequels).
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 03:46 Post subject: |
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I've never watched a movie in 3D, only 2D 720p and 1080p movies in a 3D environment (my desk) 
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 04:40 Post subject: |
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well, 3d isn't really inherently shit - it's just that it's unnecessary for almost every occation
closest i can think of would be stereo sound versus surround sound - except you would have to wear headphones for it
so if they get the technology going without fucking glasses, then yea, there's really no reason anyone would say it would suck
and i doubt we'll be seeing that in theatres any time soon.. there's still some technology to be invented to allow that
one thing i was surprised by was that a huge number of the population has stereoscopic blindness
something like 20%
so those people would be forced to wear glasses for absolutely no benefit, other than to not see a blinking distorted image
personally i still rather see a film in HD than 3D
i only have a stereo sound system, too
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 05:36 Post subject: |
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3D is used as a gimmick. but movies like pirhana use it just for the gimmick and it's cheap fun.
Avatar, pixar movies, some decent dreamworks movies use 3D for DoF.
When i saw the trailer for pirhana 3D. When rhames used the weed whacker for 3D effect. It was awesome fun.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 07:25 Post subject: |
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I don't like 3D, at least not the technology they are using atm. I am not getting headaches, but I find the screen is too dark through the lenses, and colours are not so vivid.
I'd rather watch the movie in a good 2D version (IMAX, or HD at home), than 3D in cinema...
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 07:38 Post subject: |
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The thing I don't like with 3D is the fact they darken the image quite a bit. You get that deep looks,but besides that I stil prefer to watch movies in 2D...
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 10:05 Post subject: |
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I agree with most people, it will be better when the technology advances some more. Did anyone else also feel like fast movements were incredibly blurred with 3d glasses? If it's a still shot everything is fine and dandy, but when something moved fast across the screen, or the camera moved, I could barely recoginze the object.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 10:13 Post subject: |
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i think the biggest problem with 3d, is that the human eye wants to go where it wants to go, and look at whatever attracts it, but its still bound by what the directors WANTS you to see... its a pretty big distraction that ruins the impact of 3d a bit.
i also think thats part of the reason it looks blurry to you during fast action... your eye is probably trying to look at places the director doesnt want you to.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 10:15 Post subject: |
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3d movies are awesome!! it's so cool and realistic when something hits you like an axe or something u just have to be there to experience it in full. and with avatar 3d just brought this mvie from shit to fuckin amazin. i mean you could actually feal and breathe pandora through that IMAX SCREEN and 3d. of course when seen a second time on my 22inch monitor it sucked ! but none one can take away that 1st viewing in IMAX 3d that was truly ET.
and with bloody valentine 3d man that was prety awesome too when the whole cinema jumps and ducks from glass , axes and stuff. it's great fun but of course if u'r a saddo u can't appreciate it.
too bad i missed piranha in 3d 
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 15:32 Post subject: |
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Finally people who agree with me 
Imo if 3D is used properly it can enhance a movie (ie Avatar - yes yes I know people think it sucked, I liked it).
It's just good to finally talk to people who don't go "OMG 3D! shit sucks so much! 3d needs to die!!!"
oh and the same folks go "Nintendo 3DS? Sooo awesoooome!"
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 15:39 Post subject: |
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@Reklis But there will always be people like that who go either "OMFG 3D SUCKS BALLZ AND ALWAYS WILLZ" or the opposite "OMFG 3D IS AMAZING BEST THING SINCE SLIZED BREADZ AND I LOVES IT MY PRECIOUS!11". The idea is to know not to pay too much attention to them. 
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 15:44 Post subject: |
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I know, I know. It's just the people that are hating on 3d like crazy lately are folks I talk to on a regular basis so this thread is more like a sanity check to see if I'm just totally crazy for actually thinking that 3D is a nice idea.
| sabin1981 wrote: | | Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork |
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 16:15 Post subject: |
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I watched Avatar in 3D in the cinema and in 2D at home, I didn't think 3D made the experience more enjoyable. For me, 3D adds absolutely nothing. It does not suck, but I also think it's noting special. I had a "hm, interesting" thought for ten minutes when watching Avatar, but it passed.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 16:17 Post subject: |
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Ok we'll get IMAX in a month or so, and the first movie in 3D would probably be Harry Potter, but I'm reluctant to see it in 3D :\ The movie seems dark itself, and I can only wonder what the 3D will be like...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 16:53 Post subject: |
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3D has always been a useless gimmick
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 16:55 Post subject: |
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I bet that's what they said about sound or color TV 
| sabin1981 wrote: | | Now you're just arguing semantics. Getting fucked in the ass with a broom stale is an "improvement" over getting stabbed in the eye with a fork |
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 17:00 Post subject: |
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| Reklis wrote: | | I bet that's what they said about sound or color TV |
Color TV is overrated anyway, useful only when watching a football match. I can't tell the same about sound though |
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 17:08 Post subject: |
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| bringiton wrote: | I don't like 3D, at least not the technology they are using atm. I am not getting headaches, but I find the screen is too dark through the lenses, and colours are not so vivid.
I'd rather watch the movie in a good 2D version (IMAX, or HD at home), than 3D in cinema... |
Exactly what I wanted to post too.
Unless they fix the technology 3D is a no for me. I only saw one modern 3D movie (Avatar) in the cinema and when I watched it again on BluRay I honestly thought it looked far better in 2D. The picture with the polarized glasses looked too dark and dull.
And in one scene I even noticed a lot of flickering due to the asynchronous pictures for the left and right eye.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 20:01 Post subject: |
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3d is absolutely the future for me - watching a well done 3d movie (which are rare atm) gives me a new level of immersion in a movie - i wont even get into how awesome gaming in 3d is because for me that is a given. I used to do a fair amount of research with hallucinogens (yea whatever) and 3d is kinda the way to go if you want that level of immersion without drugs hahaha
overall, I will spend money on this technology, I already own a 3d projector and a 3d monitor and will be getting a 3d tv in the following few months -
fuck ...
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Oct 2010 20:13 Post subject: |
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I played some 3D games at Gamescom, and before that I thought it would be great, since games are much more suited for 3D than movies, just because the images are all artificial and can be rendered in 3D from the beginning.
But playing in 3D was way worse than watching a movie, I got a headache after only 5 minutes, which has never happened in the cinema before... And it was good hardware, like expensive TV and so on...
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Oct 2010 07:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Oct 2010 15:19 Post subject: |
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meh 3d on a regular monitor/tv does fuck all for me the image you linked does bugger all :S
those movies with the glasses never did anything for me either, at one point i thought my eyes were to crap ro be fooled but one of those 4d rides at a theme parked looked pretty epic.
ive never been to see a real film in 3d though at a cinema
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Oct 2010 15:47 Post subject: |
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Freddys Dead was crap
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Oct 2010 19:48 Post subject: |
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| oldtimer wrote: | get ur goggles on & see if this looks any good.
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not 3d
fun animation idea though
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