Finally, new compy for pumpy!
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:31    Post subject: Finally, new compy for pumpy!
I'm on a small budget so here we go:

AMD Athlon II X4 640 (4x3.0GHz)
MSI 760GM-E51 (Thoug I'd prefer the Biostar 880G+ because of it's faster Radeon 4250, but that was out of stock)
2GB DDR3-1333
500W Silverstone Strider Power supply
Midi Tower with 2x80mm fans
Samsung Spinpoint F3 7200rpm,32MB cache 750GB HDD

311€

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Will buy the parts tomorrow from Alternate (www.alternate.de) Smile So it was important for me that they have the parts in stock Smile

Alternatively I could go for smaller WD 640 GB Caviar Blue but as far as I know the F3s are faster and more reliable, right? Smile

Next month I'll add a GTX 460 (preferably with 256 bit, 1GB) & maybe a Full HD 24" Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:34    Post subject:
What GPU are you going with? Please don't tell me you're sticking to the 760GM onboard piece of crap? Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:34    Post subject:
ninja'd me sabin Very Happy I edited my initial post with the future update information Smile

I even thought about getting the new GTS450 but they are just 35€ cheaper than the GTX460, which should be MUCH faster, right?


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:36    Post subject:
Ahhhh, that's better! Very Happy Yeah the GTX460 looks like it's storming right now, definitely the card to get. As for HDD; I *personally* believe the F3 is a far, far better choice yes.

Considering the low price on the 460 (768M model) I'm tempted to get one of those for now, to replace my ageing 4870. Normally I'd prefer to get the 1G, but meh. Choice isn't generally a luxury I have right now.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:39    Post subject:
Congrats on new PC, Pumpy <3
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:44    Post subject:
Seems as if I'll finally be able to play some of the games I missed over the time...

Mafia 2, Dirt 2/F1 2010, Batman Arkham Asylum, NFS: Shift, Assasins Creed II, Battlefield Bad Company 2, the newer Total War games, GTA IV and the DLCs...

Well at least in a month. What WILL suck is that I'll be stuck on a 15" 1024x768 POS-Display (at least it's flat Laughing )


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:46    Post subject:
Hell mate, the only games that will push that new comp of yours are poorly-coded trash like GTA4 (and Crysis Laughing) Congrats mate!
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:49    Post subject:
I went for AM3 because if I should need more processing power in the future I'll just put in a little bit more RAM and a 6 core Thuban Smile

And thank you guys!


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 17:59    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
What GPU are you going with? Please don't tell me you're sticking to the 760GM onboard piece of crap? Crying or Very sad


You know what? Sad part of the story is that the 880G with it's radeon 4250 onboard crap should be quite faster than my current GeForce 7600go thats running in my lappy Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 18:02    Post subject:
I would have gone with a Athlon X3 and 4gb RAM.

You went 2gb, man. Never go 2gb.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 18:07    Post subject:
The X3 might be as good for gaming but the X4 is great for rendering (on stock speeds it even beats a Core i5-750 Smile )which is for me just as important as gaming Smile

I might even go instantly for 4GB as ram is quite cheap right now with 35€ per 2GB Very Happy

And I just don't see any personal need for more than 4GB right now. What would need more than 4GB anyways? (except server stuff and VMs?) Video Editing?


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 18:17    Post subject:
Not sure this will be able to handle minecraft Razz

speaking of..I burned down the tree house with your lighter! lmao

Very nice setup, only thing I would change is the MB to gigabyte but that's just personal preference.

As for the memory, Games are getting heavier on memory as they come out. I dunno if windows keeps doing it's superfetch shit while in game but I've seen my memory go up to 3.1gb used while playing the witcher, 2.4 or so playing mass effect 2. If you have the memory, it'll get used since it's there and the game doesn't have to keep working around only having 2 GB to work with.

My system right now as is with nothing but steam, alt binz and my browser is using about 1.5GB of memory. If I did that with only 2GB I could see shit starting to slow down soon.


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 18:27    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 18:33    Post subject:
Good points spykez but did you consider that win7 always reserves more mem than it needs? Smile I currently never had any problems with 2 GB in my lappy :/

And there is no gigabyte in my price range Sad You are quite lucky to live in the US as the hardware over there is really dirt cheap Sad


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 18:35    Post subject:
Well, if you got a way to ship it, buy it through me than lol, did that for another member on here, think it was pmflcheese or whatever his name was. sin was going to do it as well but ended up finding a deal out there.

I got 2GB in my laptop as well and runs amazing but I don't do nearly as much on my laptop as I do my desktop. When it comes to games, you'll notice all the difference, especially in larger worlds, Fallout 3, The Witcher, Borderlands etc etc.


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 19:00    Post subject:
Well I'd go with 4 GB especially if you'll use it for rendering. Not to mention 64 bit application and OS.

The more the merrier Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 19:12    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
Well I'd go with 4 GB especially if you'll use it for rendering. Not to mention 64 bit application and OS.

The more the merrier Very Happy


Im sure epsilon was thinking the same, fucker has like 12 GB lol


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 19:22    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
Well I'd go with 4 GB especially if you'll use it for rendering. Not to mention 64 bit application and OS.

The more the merrier Very Happy


Im sure epsilon was thinking the same, fucker has like 12 GB lol


Laughing Now that's just too much grinhurt (ofc I'm just jealous )


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 19:57    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
The X3 might be as good for gaming but the X4 is great for rendering (on stock speeds it even beats a Core i5-750 Smile )which is for me just as important as gaming Smile

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highly doubt that especially with 2mb vs 8mb cache Razz

dingo_d wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
Well I'd go with 4 GB especially if you'll use it for rendering. Not to mention 64 bit application and OS.

The more the merrier Very Happy


Im sure epsilon was thinking the same, fucker has like 12 GB lol


Laughing Now that's just too much grinhurt (ofc I'm just jealous )


never used more than 4, so depends on what u do
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 19:58    Post subject:
some of those amd chips you can unlock the extra cache just like the cores.


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 19:59    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Well, if you got a way to ship it, buy it through me than lol, did that for another member on here, think it was pmflcheese or whatever his name was. sin was going to do it as well but ended up finding a deal out there.

I got 2GB in my laptop as well and runs amazing but I don't do nearly as much on my laptop as I do my desktop. When it comes to games, you'll notice all the difference, especially in larger worlds, Fallout 3, The Witcher, Borderlands etc etc.


Thanks for the offer! But I can't wait anymore Very Happy Am totally hyped, this is like my 5th thread because of a new comp grinhurt

SpykeZ wrote:
some of those amd chips you can unlock the extra cache just like the cores.


Some of the X2 and X3 based on Deneb can be unlocked to X4 ... but I'm going for athlon II x4, nothing to unlock there Sad
Mortibus wrote:
PumpAction wrote:
The X3 might be as good for gaming but the X4 is great for rendering (on stock speeds it even beats a Core i5-750 Smile )which is for me just as important as gaming Smile

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highly doubt that especially with 2mb vs 8mb cache Razz


Yeah sorry I took a look at i5-750 strangely clocked at 2.4 not 2.66 GHz. Though it's not much of a difference! Surprisingly both, cinema4d in multithreading nor 3ds max perform more than 2-5% faster than on the x4 Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 20:09    Post subject:
ugh, for like 50 bucks more you coulda got the AMD 965 X4 BE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&cm_re=AMD_965-_-19-103-727-_-Product

it's what I got in my system and it's a beast, OC's like a champ too. Had mine @ 4ghz


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 20:12    Post subject:
Yeah but that's 50 bucks Sad I'm on a limited budget! At least until next year Very Happy Have to save money... (wedding and stuff )


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 20:16    Post subject:
btw is there anything comparable like this on any other hardware shop you know?

http://www.alternate.de/html/pcbuilder/circleView.html?cn=1&tn=BUILDERS

It's really nice that stuff that isn't compatible is automatically removed from the choices! Select a too powerful gfx card and you won't see any 350W PSUs anymore f.e. Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Sep 2010 20:18    Post subject:
well, if it was in english, I would love to let you know


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2010 01:06    Post subject:
Update: Bought and assembled everything.

Works great with Win 7 x64 Smile

Threw Cinebench 11.5 at it and it was amazing how big the difference was to my Core 2 Duo 2x2GHz :O (And I had ~200-400% performance gain in Live for Speed with 20 AI racers)

The HD4250 is OK but I'll need a replacement for it quite fast But plans changed a little bit and it seems as if I'll be stuck to this 15" 1024x768 crap tft for a little longer... a GTX460 would be totally overpowered so I thought about buying a 8800gt from ebay. Well and it seems as if those ones go for ~30€! I'd say good deal right? Very Happy

I could even try to grab a 4870 (512 sometimes 1GB) for ~40-50€! Smile

What do you think? And what is with all the hate towards XFX. Do they really suck that much?!


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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2010 01:15    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Update: Bought and assembled everything.

Works great with Win 7 x64 Smile

Threw Cinebench 11.5 at it and it was amazing how big the difference was to my Core 2 Duo 2x2GHz :O (And I had ~200-400% performance gain in Live for Speed with 20 AI racers)

The HD4250 is OK but I'll need a replacement for it quite fast But plans changed a little bit and it seems as if I'll be stuck to this 15" 1024x768 crap tft for a little longer... a GTX460 would be totally overpowered so I thought about buying a 8800gt from ebay. Well and it seems as if those ones go for ~30€! I'd say good deal right? Very Happy

I could even try to grab a 4870 (512 sometimes 1GB) for ~40-50€! Smile

What do you think? And what is with all the hate towards XFX. Do they really suck that much?!


If you have the money for GTX 460, just buy it, you wont regret it when you get new monitor, and there is no such thing as "overpowered" in these days console ports Very Happy. But from those two i would get 4870. Also XFX doesnt suck, their own "design" cards sucks, which doesnt have reference cooler. Their own designed models uses cheap PCB´s and Crap loud coolers Razz
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2010 01:40    Post subject:
5770 1gb is like 130 euros and will hold you over for along while

http://www.alternate.de/html/solrSearch/toArticle.html?articleId=144868&query=5770&referer=detail&link=solrSearch%2Flisting.productDetails

also OC that cpu to 3.3ghz!
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2010 01:48    Post subject:
460 768mb is like 140 euro which is faster than 5770 and has physx Cool Face and will hold even longer when u add another one in the future or u can get msi 470 for the same money Cool Face
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2010 01:49    Post subject:
like you said, its not the 1GB version
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