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Werelds
Special Little Man
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Posted: Sun, 5th Sep 2010 23:30 Post subject: Yep, me as well, new system coming up :> |
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So yeah, I've been considering an upgrade for a while now, and I'm gonna make it happen
I'm selling the current system as a whole:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 (3.0 GHz)
- MSI P6N SLI V2 (crap, but good enough for the person getting the system, no overclocking planned)
- 2x2 GB A-Data DDR2-800 (5-5-5-1
- Sapphire HD5870 1GB
- Antec 900
- Samsung Spinpoint F1 500GB
- Cooler Master Real Power 550W - the part I'll be missing the most, read the spoiler to see why
Spoiler: | Reason I'll be missing the PSU is because this baby has served me well for almost 5 years now. I recently went through all my old invoices, and I found the invoice for this: I bought it in November 2005. Since then, it has endured the initial system of a P4 (Northwood) @ 2.8 with a 6800GT, followed by upgrades to an EE 955 @ 3.46, 8800GTS, 9800 GTX, E8400, and 5870. Now if that's not a reliable product, I don't know what is  |
Now, this is what I'm getting, and why - I went against my own recommendations on one part, but with good reason. A small note I need to make here is that I tried to avoid ordering online because I prefer dealing with real people when it comes to RMA. Luckily, the two retailers I go to are bloody awesome with warranties, so I tried to get my shit from them wherever possible. Dealing with webshops is always annoying. I also need to build the system by the end of the week, so I've mostly gone for products that I can just go and pick up coming thursday or friday, only exception being my case.
CPU: i5-760
Hands down the best buy for what I do with my system (lots of multitasking, often compiling a couple of projects at once, but nothing really heavy). I didn't go the i7 route because that would be overkill for what I do; AMD's 1055T would've probably done fine for me as well, but considering the 3 euro difference it makes, I don't see the point - in case I need it, this one will give me the extra power for heavier stuff like video encoding. The 760 is about 5 euros more expensive than the 750, so that's also a no-brainer.
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Frio
Excellent cooler (click the link), and unlike the Fenrir, it's actually in stock over here :/
I would've gone for the latter, had it been deliverable, but it's got a 10+ days delivery time everywhere for some reason. I didn't go for Corsair's H50, because even though it matches these 2 in cooling performance, I'll have plenty of cooling due to the case already (you'll see which one in a bit).
Motherboard: MSI P55-GD65
Gets good reviews everywhere, supports SLI (which is still not on every P55 motherboard because NVIDIA are gay enough to ask money for it), and it's cheaper than any of its competitors from Gigabyte or ASUS.
RAM: 2x2GB OCZ Gold DDR3-1333 (9-9-9-20)
Again, gets good reviews, also a lot of happy users with these on Tweakers.net and they overclock well. Latency doesn't matter jackshit, so even though I could've gained 1 or 2 FPS by going for C8, it's not worth the price premium tbh. On top of all that, these are quite cheap, and come with a lifetime warranty
GPU: Gigabyte's GTX 460 OC 1GB
You're thinking: Whoa, a step down?! Why does he go from a 5870 to a 460 ffs ?!
Well first of all, the 460 is simply the best value card right now. The higher NVIDIA models are still way too expensive for what they bring to the table.
The reason I didn't go for another 5870 is because this is fast enough right now, and I'm waiting for the new cards to pop up to see what their performance is like. When they're out, I'll have 2 choices:
A) Sell this 460, which will still be very popular and wanted, and get one of the new cards
B) If the new ATI cards suck, I just get another one (at a lower price as well) and run in SLI
I have nothing worth playing at the moment anyway, and even when a couple games come out in the next 2 months, a 460 is still plenty fast
PSU: Corsair HX750W
I went a little higher than I had planned to here. I was planning to go for Seasonic's X-650 unit, which I consider the best PSU out there. Unfortunately though, my retailer didn't have that, and a PSU is the one thing I really want to be able to deal with real people for in case it blows. When I built the PC for my brother and sister-in-law I ordered one from the web (Seasonic's X-400, their PC is in their living room so it needed to be quiet). That thing unfortunately was blown out in a heavy thunderstorm, and getting it RMA'd proved to be hard, took 5 weeks and several threats from my side to get it done. Real people I can deal with easier, because these tech pricks can't handle someone who knows what he's talking about while he's verbally abusing them
I went for the 750W unit over the 650W unit because it's silver rated (instead of bronze), and it just has a better build quality overall from what I've read in reviews and on forums. Knowing myself, I'll also be giving SLI/CFX a go pretty soon, and I think it's clear I'm definitely planning to overclock quite a bit. To round it off, it was only 12 euros difference between the two so meh
Case: NZXT Phantom
This thing has been tempting me ever since it came out, and on top of that it's one of the best cooling cases out there. What more could one possibly want? Its style may not be for everyone, but I'm pretty bored of the typical 'gamer' cases like the 902, Haf series, DF-85 and what not. I considered Fractal's R3 as well, but going by reviews this one is much easier to work with, and it cools better.
And yes, I did order the white one. I was also going to order this regardless of an upgrade. There's only 1 shop in the Benelux that will have any stock, among about 6 or 7 across Europe, and they're getting their delivery this thursday, meaning I'll have it by friday most likely, saturday at the latest. That suits my needs perfectly
As for hard drives, I'll just be reusing my Spinpoint F3 1TB as my main drive, with my trusty WD Caviar SE16 320 GB to make backups on. That last one is just as old as my PSU, and in a head-to-head benchmark it matched my F1 in performance (only point where the F1 really won was in access times, shaving off 1.2 ms - not important for a backup drive), despite being a 2 year older drive. Dunno why, but the F1 has degraded much quicker than the Caviar, so suck on that WD haters
Again, not putting in a DVD writer just like I don't have one now. I don't use the damn things, and I have an external one just in case 
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Slizza
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Posted: Sun, 5th Sep 2010 23:42 Post subject: |
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Good luck with the sale.
You should split it though if you need to ebay, don't chuck it on as a full system.
Corsair 750D :: 750W DPS-G:: Asus x370 PRO :: R7 1800X ::16gb DDR4 :: GTX 1070::525gb SSD::Coolermaster 240MM AIO::
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Posted: Sun, 5th Sep 2010 23:42 Post subject: |
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awwwww, slurge and get a lian li!!!
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Werelds
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 01:37 Post subject: |
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Werelds
Special Little Man
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 02:05 Post subject: |
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I could in fact, he knows jackshit about computers 
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 02:47 Post subject: |
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pwerelds wrote: |
@ Spykez: no Lian-Li gets everything right for me. I love their build quality, but each and every one of them has something that turns me off
At least the ones at a sensible pricepoint do, paying 200+ is a bit silly tbh  |
pff silly!?!? I paid 280 for my lian li
Due to the quality, that case looks the same way as I bought it 5 years ago. Minus some of the dremel work I did on the back 
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Epsilon
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 03:50 Post subject: |
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A 5870 for a 460? are you insane?
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 03:57 Post subject: |
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btw, NEVER support a pc company like thermaltake, they're the ricer company of PC's and their products are crap.
Get the Corsair H50, Meglahelm, dark knight, SOMETHING that isn't a piece of junk
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 04:03 Post subject: |
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Wtf is wrong with thermaltake ?
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 04:28 Post subject: |
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their stuff sucks, it's cheap and breaks half the time. Like their water cooling stuff, notorious for frying systems cause of bad quality
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Werelds
Special Little Man
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 08:47 Post subject: |
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@SpykeZ
My point exactly about the Lian-Li
As for Thermaltake, I haven't had any of their products in the past few years, and the Frio seems to do its job just as well as the Fenrir or H50. I used to have a Volcano for my AMD Athlon XP 2000+ though, and that did its job right up until I got rid of the system :E
@Epsilon

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Frant
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 12:07 Post subject: |
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They're selling out Fractal Design R2 cases for $69 / €53 now (in Sweden).
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 13:09 Post subject: |
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Werelds
Special Little Man
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 13:13 Post subject: |
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Yeah I'm basically paying for the videocard+case, rest I get back from selling my stuff 
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TSR69
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 15:04 Post subject: |
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Still pwerelds why sell the 5870 and buy a 960?
Formerly known as iconized
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garus
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 15:07 Post subject: |
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 15:13 Post subject: |
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Thermaltake frio doesnt match Corsair H50 in cooling performance. Get Scythe Mugen 2 which is damn cheap and is better than frio. Frio imo is overpriced garbage
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Werelds
Special Little Man
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Posted: Mon, 6th Sep 2010 15:58 Post subject: |
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Breezer_ wrote: | Thermaltake frio doesnt match Corsair H50 in cooling performance. Get Scythe Mugen 2 which is damn cheap and is better than frio. Frio imo is overpriced garbage |
Read the review I linked, it performs as well as the Fenrir, and so does the H50 most of the time. I might get the H50 at a later point anyway, but I'll see how well the Frio does first
iconized wrote: | Still pwerelds why sell the 5870 and buy a 960? |
I'm assuming you meant 460, and that's because this sale came quite suddenly. For the time being the 460 will do, and once the new ATI cards are out I might pick up one of them, or I might just go SLI
My 5870 has spent 95% of its time so far idling in 2D anyway, and there's only been a few games which put more than 50% load (none of which are recent games, for the record, fucking console piece of shit ports ) on it so it'll do for now, and it's cheaper than the 5850 over here
garus wrote: | For PhysX  |
No, for folding
Mortibus wrote: | ok so instead of MSI P55-GD65 i'm getting Asus P7P55D-Pro, msi came with bended cpu sockets , guess there is first time for everything, no i know to check for cpu sockets before paying for mobo, crap |
Lame, no RMA replacement? 
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Posted: Tue, 7th Sep 2010 05:22 Post subject: |
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stopped reading when you said i7 was too much for you
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Posted: Tue, 7th Sep 2010 05:26 Post subject: |
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8ball wrote: | stopped reading when you said i7 was too much for you |
but was enough for you to post a completely useless comment right?
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Posted: Tue, 7th Sep 2010 07:09 Post subject: |
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I stopped reading when I realized I wasn't going to get free stuff... 
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Posted: Tue, 7th Sep 2010 07:24 Post subject: |
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usual OCD post getting rid of perfectly fine hardware
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Posted: Tue, 7th Sep 2010 10:02 Post subject: |
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I think you made a mistake here, that system was perfectly fine. How much did you get for it? I doubt anyone would pay enough in this day and age to justify an upgrade with that system in mind.
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Werelds
Special Little Man
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Posted: Tue, 7th Sep 2010 10:10 Post subject: |
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The sale covers almost 75% (71 to be precise!) of my expenses, I thought that was a good enough excuse. Moreover because the dual-core struggles at times when I'm either working for my job, or doing uni work. I know the system is fine, and for gaming I have absolutely no issues with it, but when you're sitting at 3+ GB RAM usage with an average of 110 processes running, all trying to get some processing time it does fall short a little
@8ball
Oh really? Glad you've got a strong reasoning behind that statement mate.
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