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 Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 14:21 Post subject: Bad sectors on fairly new HDD - time to panic? |
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Title says it all, I was playing Kane& Lynch 2 yesterday and it always hung up when loading chapter 3. I checked the eventlog and found a few event 7 (disk error) entries: The device, \Device\Harddisk1\DR1, has a bad block. This was the first and so far only incident recorded in eventlog. I ran a full chkdsk at boot and it identified 3 bad clusters, 12kb worth of bad sectors:
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CHKDSK is verifying file data (stage 4 of 5)...
Read failure with status 0xc000009c at offset 0x39e51ab000 for 0x10000 bytes.
Read failure with status 0xc000009c at offset 0x39e51b5000 for 0x1000 bytes.
Read failure with status 0xc000009c at offset 0x39e53c6000 for 0x10000 bytes.
Read failure with status 0xc000009c at offset 0x39e53d5000 for 0x1000 bytes.
Read failure with status 0xc000009c at offset 0x39e54c6000 for 0x10000 bytes.
Read failure with status 0xc000009c at offset 0x39e54c7000 for 0x1000 bytes.
Windows replaced bad clusters in file 3235
of name \Games\KANE&L~1\Scenes\LOCATI~1\L03\L03_Main.zip.
73200 files processed. File data verification completed.
CHKDSK is verifying free space (stage 5 of 5)...
123590301 free clusters processed. Free space verification is complete.
Adding 3 bad clusters to the Bad Clusters File.
Correcting errors in the Volume Bitmap.
Windows has made corrections to the file system.
921600854 KB total disk space.
427008196 KB in 64766 files.
28900 KB in 4769 indexes.
12 KB in bad sectors.
202542 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
494361204 KB available on disk.
4096 bytes in each allocation unit.
230400213 total allocation units on disk.
123590301 allocation units available on disk.
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The HDD is a Samsung Spinpoint 1TB SATA 7200rpm and only 4 months old. I use it for file storage and installed games.
The obvious question - is it fine now that the blocks have been corrected, or is the HDD failing soon - are the bad blocks gonna spread like a virus? Time to get a new HDD and make backups now?
Last edited by Shocktrooper on Fri, 20th Aug 2010 14:44; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 14:23 Post subject: |
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Motherfucking Samsung hdd, huh ? lol
Guarantee ?
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 14:31 Post subject: |
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Yea I'm sure the bill is somewhere, if I find it I can replace the HDD for free.
still..I'd like to know that:
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(..) is it fine now that the blocks have been corrected, or is the HDD failing soon - are the bad blocks gonna spread like a virus? (..) make backups now?
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It seems I accidentally posted this topic in Operating Systems instead of Hardware.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 20:30 Post subject: |
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thats why i always go with WD
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 22:25 Post subject: |
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since we're on HDD topic and 8ball mentioned WD....(That WD OwO...) i was lookin' to change my HDD from my 400GB to a 1TB or bit less to do a XP/7 partition...i've found this WD Caviar 3.5 "300" (SATA) 64MB Buffer
The higher the buffer..what benefits the PC with it?..(NOOB HERE,NO TROLLING PLZ)..also,what's the difference tween "300" and "600" ?..my MoBo is an ASUS P5K Deluxe WiFi/AP.
Help,please? óo
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 22:40 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | since we're on HDD topic and 8ball mentioned WD....(That WD OwO...) i was lookin' to change my HDD from my 400GB to a 1TB or bit less to do a XP/7 partition...i've found this WD Caviar 3.5 "300" (SATA) 64MB Buffer
The higher the buffer..what benefits the PC with it?..(NOOB HERE,NO TROLLING PLZ)..also,what's the difference tween "300" and "600" ?..my MoBo is an ASUS P5K Deluxe WiFi/AP.
Help,please? óo |
The size?
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 22:44 Post subject: |
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3.5
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 22:55 Post subject: |
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@ Shocktrooper: might be a one-time thing, but you never know. I'm personally still a WD fan, as not a single WD drive has ever failed me - my 5 year old Caviar is still doing its job perfectly. I've been fucking around with my bro's HDD today, which he bought just under a year ago. Hitachi Deskstar, supposedly also good drives. Damn thing is completely dead now. Same thing with an external drive I've had, was a 1TB drive achieved by 2 500GB Spinpoint F1's in RAID-0. 21 months, and one of them completely broke down.
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 23:43 Post subject: |
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Samsungs drives are good drives. I have the F3 1TB drive and it is fast and reliable. I also have 4 WD's too. I am no fan of anyone's. I just happen to buy products that have the best reviews. I look for specific models - not just makes. Most drives come with a 3-YR warranty. RMA it and get another one.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2010 23:59 Post subject: |
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Ummm could somebody help me up there,please?
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Aug 2010 00:42 Post subject: |
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bad blocks on hd especially if the number is growing is a bad sign (means all the spare sectors for remapping bad blocks have been used up too) and you should back it up and send it in for raplacement.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Aug 2010 00:57 Post subject: |
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If a sector is physically damaged, more will usually follow.
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| Posted: Sat, 21st Aug 2010 23:39 Post subject: |
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RMA rules aren't that easy though, they'll just send it back to you if there's a few bad sectors that was "fixed" (remapped).
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2010 13:06 Post subject: |
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What a great timing. I checked everything with RMA yesterday and they said they're gonna take it back and send me a new one. Then I spent the whole night making 500gb of backups with 10mb/s to another computer in the network. Shortly after I was done, the HDD died silently. Its still showing but I can't access it "the disc structure is corrupted and unreadable".
Chkdsk fails, windows cannot recover master file table. Phew, that was close! Now to remove that fucker and send it back.
It was exactly 20 days from the first registered bad block till HDD death.
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2010 13:28 Post subject: |
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Can someone help me with my doubts up there,PLEASE?..
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| Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2010 14:04 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | | The higher the buffer..what benefits the PC with it?.. |
Simply put, it's where the hard drive temporarily stores data when you read or write it. It's there to keep disk transfers as smooth as possible, and to avoid the hard drive waiting for the CPU as much as possible. When extracting for example, if you've got a slow CPU that buffer will make sure the CPU always has something to work with. If it didn't have the buffer, and the CPU would take 2 seconds to extract 1 megabyte, the hard drive would have to wait those 2 seconds, find the archive again and then feed the next megabyte to the CPU. With the buffer, it just writes to the buffer until it's full.
In reality it barely matters. Hard drives are much slower than most modern CPUs can process the data. A 32MB buffer is fine, 64 won't really speed things up much.
| DV2 wrote: | | also,what's the difference tween "300" and "600" ? |
I'm guessing you're referring to SATA-300 and SATA-600, or more accurately SATA2 and SATA3. The 300 and 600 represent how many megabytes per second it can transfer across your SATA bus. Your motherboard only supports SATA2 (or SATA-300, whatever you want to call it).
SATA3/SATA-600 is not interesting at all yet, as there's barely any drives (not even SSDs) that can take advantage of it.
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