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helvete
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 Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 15:13 Post subject: 2 Years In Prison - A Man's Story |
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I found this over at team liquid and thought some of you would find it as interesting as I did. It's a collection of (long) posts from a forum user who went to prison in Michigan for two years, made after he got out, about his experiences on the inside. Doesn't sound like much fun at all.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 16:46 Post subject: |
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Wow! been reading for past hour. Excellent stuff!!
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 17:25 Post subject: |
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Indeed, a very good read!.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 17:41 Post subject: |
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It's prison. Not supposed to be fun.
Bottom line is that he knew better before he comitted the crime, but still did it anyways. He got to pay the price for being a jackass.
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Horrordee
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 18:17 Post subject: |
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Good read!
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 18:56 Post subject: |
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Good stuff.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 19:16 Post subject: |
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This:
"Shit [sic] has changed. So many boards now. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Where do I start? Two years inside and it's like the whole world has changed. Just wanted a board where things stayed the same.
I don't even recognise half the dickgirls on /di/ anymore. Has the whole world grown tits while I was gone? And who the fuck if Justin Bieber?
Is. Is Justin Bieber. Lost my ability to spell. I get out and first thing I see is that little homie has a tattoo but I don't even know who the little homie is. My cable got cancelled while I was away so I can't even find out. Thank fuck for wireless internet, I swear to God it's faster now too. Seriously, it's like I've traveled through time. Fucking iPads look like shit out the future. Feel like I've missed a decade of shitty memes."
Makes him either a complete fraud or an attention seeking tosser, he 'did' two years not friggin twenty ffs.
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helvete
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 20:45 Post subject: |
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2 years is a long time. Especially on teh webz.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 21:37 Post subject: |
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| Reg67 wrote: | This:
"Shit [sic] has changed. So many boards now. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Where do I start? Two years inside and it's like the whole world has changed. Just wanted a board where things stayed the same.
I don't even recognise half the dickgirls on /di/ anymore. Has the whole world grown tits while I was gone? And who the fuck if Justin Bieber?
Is. Is Justin Bieber. Lost my ability to spell. I get out and first thing I see is that little homie has a tattoo but I don't even know who the little homie is. My cable got cancelled while I was away so I can't even find out. Thank fuck for wireless internet, I swear to God it's faster now too. Seriously, it's like I've traveled through time. Fucking iPads look like shit out the future. Feel like I've missed a decade of shitty memes."
Makes him either a complete fraud or an attention seeking tosser, he 'did' two years not friggin twenty ffs. |
Have you read the thing entirely? The rest makes me actually believe he's genuine.
The whole thing makes me
a) happy to not live in america
b) hope I never ever go to prison
I think his description of solitary was the most intense point for me :/
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 22:20 Post subject: |
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Yes, here in America we send people to prison if they rob a store and threaten someones life. Beleive it or not. So yeah, you probably wouldn't like it here, or prison if you tend to go around robbing people.
Some people on this forum. Seriously.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 22:24 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | He's trolling, trust me - his story is complete bullshit. I spent 7 years in Michigan's prison system and I can assure you this guy has never been there. Granted it's been awhile for me, but I still have friends inside and I know bullshit when I read it.
Dead Giveaways:
The Aryan Brotherhood does not have a significant presence in Michigan. There may be a few members or wannabe's but that's it.
There were not even close to the number of murders he claims in Michigan prisons. I knew it didn't sound right - looked it up and confirmed it.
Nobody calls the guards "screws" (At least not here). Everybody calls them CO's (Corrections officers).
You can't do phone banking from inside because you have to submit a list of up to 20 numbers that you might want to call - and they have to be approved. All calls are monitored and they have software that prevents 3-way calling or other tricks.
Nobody pronounces "Level 5" as "Level V". Inmates are retarded but everyone knows what a fucking roman numeral V is, and they sure as hell know what level prison they are in.
Rape almost never happens.
Almost every prison has exercise equipment (bought by the prisoners fund which is collected as a tax on prisoners store bought goods). Anything can be used as a weapon, but the administrators know that men are less antsy and violent when they have something to use their energy on so they always make sure to have weights since it makes the prison easier to run.
Nobody calls it "solitary" in Michigan. The hole is the hole. And nobody is sent to the hole to open up bed space lol. Convicts are kept in overcrowded county jails until a bed opens up for them in prison.
His story visiting day is complete fabrication. You can deny a visit very easily and the CO's don't give a shit one way or the other.
You don't get an allowance to spend on food. If you have a prison job you earn the meager few dollars to spend in the store, if you don't have a job you get nothing.
Candy isn't used as currency, tobacco and soap is.
Parole is 2 years, not 1. That's not something you would forget.
There is no "DA" in Michigan, its a prosecutor.
His story about the CO's "redialing" the phone for you is fucking funny. Not only does it go completely against the way the phone system works, but you have to pay for your phone calls so that story gets double lulz.
I could go on and on and on but I can't read any further. Cliff Notes version - you've been trolled. |
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Hierofan
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 22:50 Post subject: |
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is it me or is the story collected from 4chan ?
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jul 2010 23:21 Post subject: |
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| Hierofan wrote: | | is it me or is the story collected from 4chan ? |
no, I'm pretty sure you're right (which makes me take this whole stuff with a big grain of salt actually)
though if trolling or not it's very well written.
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Nalo
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tw1st
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 17:47 Post subject: |
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Just got through reading this, very good. Thanks for posting.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 17:59 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | Yes, here in America we send people to prison if they rob a store and threaten someones life. Beleive it or not. So yeah, you probably wouldn't like it here, or prison if you tend to go around robbing people.
Some people on this forum. Seriously. |
Take your self-righteous, american-asshole, hoo-rah-ing, gun-toting, soldier boy ego and shove it straight up your enormous, gang-banged asshole.
I don't care if i get banned for this. you fucking deserve it. You're a rich-man's puppet, and that is it, no more, no less.
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Frant
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 18:48 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | It's prison. Not supposed to be fun.
Bottom line is that he knew better before he comitted the crime, but still did it anyways. He got to pay the price for being a jackass. |
Guess you missed the point of the post completely. It's not about how horrible it is to send people to jail, it's simply a leaf out of someones life in prison, giving us a glimpse into how their reality is.
He did the crime, he did the time, then he wrote about his experiences. If it's a trolling post it was well written and for us laymen it was quite believable.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 18:51 Post subject: |
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I read the whole thing and thought it was incredibly insightful..... IF it's real. I have serious misgivings about the validity of the whole thing, to be honest, even posting anonymously the guy freely offers way too much information about his experiences. I sure as shit would never tell everyone that I sucked another man's cock while high on ecstasy, or being repeatedly raped, even if I was sure I was posting under anonymity.
Still, that's just me.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 18:54 Post subject: |
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| KaiKo wrote: | | Mchart wrote: | Yes, here in America we send people to prison if they rob a store and threaten someones life. Beleive it or not. So yeah, you probably wouldn't like it here, or prison if you tend to go around robbing people.
Some people on this forum. Seriously. |
Take your self-righteous, american-asshole, hoo-rah-ing, gun-toting, soldier boy ego and shove it straight up your enormous, gang-banged asshole.
I don't care if i get banned for this. you fucking deserve it. You're a rich-man's puppet, and that is it, no more, no less. |
So basically you are saying it's OK for people to do a crime and not goto prison? Or, if they goto prison the prison should be like day camp and they should be allowed all sorts of freedoms at the tax payers expense?
You can call me whatever you like. The bottom line is that prison is prison. It shouldn't be fun, and if you do a crime you should pay the time.
It's somewhat comical how much some people hate me. You truly sit at your computer stewing bad thoughts for me. You take this shit so seriously. I think you need to go jerk off or something.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 19:01 Post subject: |
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Mchart, even your avatar is aggressive. It's kinda sad.
It's a shocking story, and I'm glad that if I ever need to go to prison it'll be in the EU.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 19:39 Post subject: |
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| Mchart wrote: | | KaiKo wrote: | | Mchart wrote: | Yes, here in America we send people to prison if they rob a store and threaten someones life. Beleive it or not. So yeah, you probably wouldn't like it here, or prison if you tend to go around robbing people.
Some people on this forum. Seriously. |
Take your self-righteous, american-asshole, hoo-rah-ing, gun-toting, soldier boy ego and shove it straight up your enormous, gang-banged asshole.
I don't care if i get banned for this. you fucking deserve it. You're a rich-man's puppet, and that is it, no more, no less. |
So basically you are saying it's OK for people to do a crime and not goto prison? Or, if they goto prison the prison should be like day camp and they should be allowed all sorts of freedoms at the tax payers expense?
You can call me whatever you like. The bottom line is that prison is prison. It shouldn't be fun, and if you do a crime you should pay the time.
It's somewhat comical how much some people hate me. You truly sit at your computer stewing bad thoughts for me. You take this shit so seriously. I think you need to go jerk off or something. |
I've said nothing about prison, im just making an informed comment on your "macho-americanism". You embody everything I hate about America, it is people so stuck up like you that make your country come across as arrogant, brash and plain stupid.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 21:37 Post subject: |
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| KaiKo wrote: | | Mchart wrote: | | KaiKo wrote: |
Take your self-righteous, american-asshole, hoo-rah-ing, gun-toting, soldier boy ego and shove it straight up your enormous, gang-banged asshole.
I don't care if i get banned for this. you fucking deserve it. You're a rich-man's puppet, and that is it, no more, no less. |
So basically you are saying it's OK for people to do a crime and not goto prison? Or, if they goto prison the prison should be like day camp and they should be allowed all sorts of freedoms at the tax payers expense?
You can call me whatever you like. The bottom line is that prison is prison. It shouldn't be fun, and if you do a crime you should pay the time.
It's somewhat comical how much some people hate me. You truly sit at your computer stewing bad thoughts for me. You take this shit so seriously. I think you need to go jerk off or something. |
I've said nothing about prison, im just making an informed comment on your "macho-americanism". You embody everything I hate about America, it is people so stuck up like you that make your country come across as arrogant, brash and plain stupid. |
Haters gonna hate.
America > you.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 23:47 Post subject: |
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kaiko i understand your hate, and i'm american my friend. but i don't think you really understand where he's coming from. not every american has that "fat cat" fuck 'em all attitude. the crime over here is really getting outta hand. the whole street cred bullshit and all that... people think they go to prison for a fucking vacation. you can get robbed over the dumbest shit over here. the area i live in is getting to be really bad for crime - and the justice system is so fucked up it's laughable.
it SHOULDN'T be fun or pleasurable, in any way shape or form. some of that shit is inhumane tho, like cycling the prisoners and it being your turn to end up in the hole. fuck that, that's not right. the whole justice system over here is fucked anyway and i'm not about to start debating it or discussing it cause fuck it, what good would it do anyway.
but rest assured dude. not all of us are heartless idiots with our heads stuck up our asses while watching a reality show on our cell phone.
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hah - fiction or not, my favorite part so far
| Quote: | | Ironically, going to the NA meetings makes me want to use more than anything. Listening to these people whine endlessly about how their habits have ruined their lives and how God is helping them recover... Drugs didn't ruin my life. They just got me high. In fact, had I have had an endless supply of high quality heroin, I would never have committed the crime I went inside for. I'd have been too busy crawling around the house and drooling into the carpet. You don't ruin your life on drugs. You ruin your life when you're not on drugs. You might ruin your life when you're trying to score for more - but that's your own, sober responsibility. Blaming anything on drugs is stupid. It's an abdication of personal responsibility. 'I ruined my baby's life on drugs' they keeping saying. I feel like jumping up and saying: Fuck you, no one ever got pregnant while high, no one can fuck on the nod, you got pregnant sober, probably whoring for more crack, and it should have been enough for you to stop using but you didn't. As for God, who seems intent on being namechecked every 30 seconds at every meeting, I really don't think he cares about anyone's drug use. If I was God, I'd have bigger concerns than a few crackheads and an ex-junky ex-con. So that's demoralising. Or demoralizing for the americo-centric spelling nazis |
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WaldoJ
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I lolled cuz it's a lie and I lolled again at the comments.
mchart... prison is prison. yes. Crime is a crime. yes. But when bull shit is treated as crime then it's not bull shit... it's a crime. Everyone and anyone will say harsh things when they're enraged and high and intoxicated or have a cock forced up their ass.
People in America can go to prison or get sued by a robber if he breaks an ankle in their house. Yes. A robber can sue if he gets hurt on your property at night while raping your wife and stealing your van gogh print.
People are allowed to kill other people when they're trespassing.
A threat can be treated as a threat and the suspect will go to jail.
(even internet threats are serious business.)
A 13 year old girl can send her 13 year old boyfriend pictures of her mosquito bites
and the 13 year old boy will be charged with possession of child pornography for the rest of his life. Cause a) he posses child porn. b) it's on his mobile. c) possibly has intent to share.
how is that fair?
FFS. The American legal system is so fucking idiotic that no wonder your suicide rates are so high. And the story is a complete fabrication.
Oh lets not forget the whole if someone makes you unhappy you can sue them. FOR FUCKS SAKE!
Crime is a crime if it's a serious crime. You're in the American militia. Killing innocent terrorists in the sandy dunes of never where. You think your actions are more justifiable than the kids back home who are mistreated by the legal system? What's a difference between a crime in the eyes of a corrupt system and a terrorist in the eyes of a scared American with a rifle.
Lets not forget that child molestors and rapists and arsonists and mail bombers and anyone with an American id that DIDN'T KILL but caused serious damage can get out earlier than a scared 19 year old who was threatened by an old man with a scythe and accidentally shot him in the leg and made him bleed to death before the medics came in. Because everyone gets shot and not everyone can get the proper ambulance to come to a shitty area.
Fuck off with your America is great. America is a shit hole. Americans are not. Not all at least. But some are worst scum on the entire planet.
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The guy committed armed robbery. He didn't goto jail for some bullshit thing like having weed on him.
As for your comments on what you think I do. You have no idea. Do you honestly beleive these people we are killing in Afghanistan are innocent? Thats fucking laughable. The majority of the people that get killed, or we detain are from out of the country. Hardly any Afghani people are the ones we are fighting. The people we fight are from countries like Syria, Saudi Arabia, and a whole clutch of other countries. Please, you have no idea what you are talking about. Just stop. A group of people firing mortar rounds at my HMV are not innocent. A woman carrying a child with a bomb stuffed inside the child's clothing and then attempting blowing it up when we go to give her a package of lemon drink is not innocent. We don't randomly go flying/trucking around the desert saying 'UH HEY. UH. THAT THERE LOOKS LIKE A RAG HEAD. HUR HUR DERP. LOOKS LIKE HE IS PLANTING A OPIUM PLANT WITH HIS KID. LETS BLOW HIM UP DERP. YARHA!' From what I gather, this is what you think we are doing out there. Just randomly killing people. If you had any fucking idea how it works over there you wouldn't be talking.
As for America being the best - It by no means is. I think most realize this. That said, people who are hard workers and have self-motivation tend to thrive in America. Yes, it's a capitalistic society which means the Alpha personalities tend to take advantage of the Beta personalities. I do think we should have socialized programs like health care. However, i'm fucking tired of seeing liberal bullshit like this that you are trying to throw on me. The victim of a fucking crime is the VICTIM not the criminal. Stop trying to victimize criminals. In this case a guy robbed a store with a fucking knife or gun. He goes to prison. Boo fucking hoo. He shouldn't have robbed the fucking store. It's -that- simple. No, I refuse to make prison as humane as it is over in countries like Australia. They lost the ability to be treated with dignity when they made the choice to commit the crime. Once again, I do agree that many people who end up in the system go in for bullshit reasons, like drug related ones. However, this discussion is about a guy who robbed a store. Not a dope smoker.
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WaldoJ
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The guy is making shit up for the lulz.
or adds so much useless shit for the fun because why the fuck not?
Yes he might have went to prison. That's all that can be true.
Everything else... lol. as in LefOckLno
yeah your country is so damn great when the rich steal from the poor
the poor have no money, no food, no nothing and they're treated as scum. 
Every country has its flaws... but all you proud to be americans treat every other country as if its below you. So therefore we have to look at you for standards and your standards are fucking disgusting.
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| WaldoJ wrote: | I lolled cuz it's a lie and I lolled again at the comments.
mchart... prison is prison. yes. Crime is a crime. yes. But when bull shit is treated as crime then it's not bull shit... it's a crime. Everyone and anyone will say harsh things when they're enraged and high and intoxicated or have a cock forced up their ass.
People in America can go to prison or get sued by a robber if he breaks an ankle in their house. Yes. A robber can sue if he gets hurt on your property at night while raping your wife and stealing your van gogh print.
People are allowed to kill other people when they're trespassing.
A threat can be treated as a threat and the suspect will go to jail.
(even internet threats are serious business.)
A 13 year old girl can send her 13 year old boyfriend pictures of her mosquito bites
and the 13 year old boy will be charged with possession of child pornography for the rest of his life. Cause a) he posses child porn. b) it's on his mobile. c) possibly has intent to share.
how is that fair?
FFS. The American legal system is so fucking idiotic that no wonder your suicide rates are so high. And the story is a complete fabrication.
Oh lets not forget the whole if someone makes you unhappy you can sue them. FOR FUCKS SAKE!
Crime is a crime if it's a serious crime. You're in the American militia. Killing innocent terrorists in the sandy dunes of never where. You think your actions are more justifiable than the kids back home who are mistreated by the legal system? What's a difference between a crime in the eyes of a corrupt system and a terrorist in the eyes of a scared American with a rifle.
Lets not forget that child molestors and rapists and arsonists and mail bombers and anyone with an American id that DIDN'T KILL but caused serious damage can get out earlier than a scared 19 year old who was threatened by an old man with a scythe and accidentally shot him in the leg and made him bleed to death before the medics came in. Because everyone gets shot and not everyone can get the proper ambulance to come to a shitty area.
Fuck off with your America is great. America is a shit hole. Americans are not. Not all at least. But some are worst scum on the entire planet. |
I call bullshit on all those stories. Show some links and I recant.
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