Women's Studies Midterm
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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 07:09    Post subject: Women's Studies Midterm
Got 800 pages to read of the most uninteresting Marxist-Feminist bullshit ever by Thursday. fml. I think I'm just gonna go watch Mad Men.

But yeah, fuck you Marxist-Feminists for sicing this bullshit on my Computer Scientist ass that don't give 2 flying fucks about your interclass dialog and incremental social revolution. Fuck you heartily.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 08:32    Post subject:
Why they hell are you learning shit on feminism? What does that have to do with Computer Science?

Or have a misunderstood completely? Confused


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 09:31    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Why they hell are you learning shit on feminism? What does that have to do with Computer Science?
Exactly. Fuck general education.
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 09:40    Post subject:
Your in University or College right? Not highschool.....I don't get why that would be a mandatory class...especially when your a Computer Science major (thats your major I assume).

Makes no sense...Confused


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 09:44    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Your in University or College right? Not highschool.....I don't get why that would be a mandatory class...especially when your a Computer Science major (thats your major I assume).

Makes no sense...Confused
I'm in Uni.

I hearby appoint you dean of my University. Some common fucking sense in the bureaucracy for a change!
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 15:43    Post subject:
Laughing

Your in Cali right? Fuck, do you go to Berkley or some shit?
I've never heard of Feminism being a mandatory class...hell, I didn't even know there was an actual class to it.

What's involved in the class? Studying woman's right and shit like that?

I can see how that would be applicable say 40 years ago...but nowadays. A woman can do whatever she wants.
Yes there is still discrimination, but nowadays, everyone has to deal with discrimination on some level....whether your white, black, foreign, male, female etc

I dunno, I think its fucking pointless...especially for Computer Science. I mean, how can you incorporate feminist ideals in computer software...? I guess you can't name a piece of code Lucy or Stacy or refer to a program you wrote as 'she' Laughing

Ridiculous.

And I mentioned Berkly because it just seems fitting given its history.


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 16:50    Post subject:
The irony is that feminism is inherently sexist... Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 16:54    Post subject:
Laughing

I don't think its fair.

If your for male power and right, your sexist. But if your a feminist cunt bitch, your a 'strong, independent woman' Rolling Eyes

Like I said, I understand the whole debate back in the day (50's and 60's) but in 2010...there shouldn't be feminist movements and shit like that...as you said Frant, its sexist.

Hardcore feminist chicks really piss me off.


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 18:36    Post subject:
same shit here, had "men and women in the course of evolution" last month, and "women in science" is up in a few weeks.

at least the content is a fucking joke and obviously aimed at social retards with no general knowledge whatsoever...aced the last one without even looking at the script or attending the lecture Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 19:00    Post subject:
Wow, you guys have pathetic education systems! Laughing

I mean, seriously, I had to study introduction to astrophysics and I wondered how they brought that to Software Engineering, but come on! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 19:14    Post subject:
Gah I am undergoing something similiar. I study tax law, which contains large parts of normal law. For some fucking reason Im forced to learn about womens rights and the growth of it. Ive had 3 speakings about the positive effects women can have on our justice system when they get into the higher judge rings. I mean'fucking seriously what the fuck has this got to do with my taxes and how to properly evade them Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 20:20    Post subject:
dont worry mate, i spent the last 3 weeks learning about womens periods for school just took a final on it. My conclusion: Women are lizards
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 20:56    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
Laughing

Your in Cali right? Fuck, do you go to Berkley or some shit?
I've never heard of Feminism being a mandatory class...hell, I didn't even know there was an actual class to it.

What's involved in the class? Studying woman's right and shit like that?

I can see how that would be applicable say 40 years ago...but nowadays. A woman can do whatever she wants.
Yes there is still discrimination, but nowadays, everyone has to deal with discrimination on some level....whether your white, black, foreign, male, female etc

I dunno, I think its fucking pointless...especially for Computer Science. I mean, how can you incorporate feminist ideals in computer software...? I guess you can't name a piece of code Lucy or Stacy or refer to a program you wrote as 'she' Laughing

Ridiculous.

And I mentioned Berkly because it just seems fitting given its history.


Computer science at UC Irvine here Wink

The women's studies class isn't necessarily mandatory, but we have a full lecture because it is the only class that fulfills 2 GE categories. This means that if you take this class and pass, you can skip another class, which is awesome. Aside from that, we (meaning most students in the class) have absolutely no interest in the class.

The class itself covers a variety of Marxist (read: hardcore commie shit) topics. Commodity racism, class/consumer differences, the corruption of the market economy due the demands of its political economy, women & race & gays & civil rights in the military (which is the only topic where I agree with the prof), analysis of how pop media (Sex and the City, The L Word) influence our perception of women and sexuality in our society, how advertisements demean women and again lead to racism... and all that bullshit.

INCOHERENT RANT, DON'T READ UNLESS YOU'RE REALLY FUCKING BORED

Honestly, it really bothers me how much the woman reads into advertisements and pretty much demonizes the advertising industry. I'll admit we (I run in internet marketting circles a lot so this really hits home) aren't exactly angels, and the ad industry has done its fair amount of shit. Ok. However, if the new Nike commercial:



shows a black woman with a big butt, that isn't demonizing the woman and deliberately perpetuating the stereotype that black women have fine asses, as my prof would have me believe. It's simply exploiting the stereotype that black women have big asses to garner attention for the advertisement. Honestly, advertisers don't give a flying fuck about the social implications of their ads. They just use popular stereotypes and pop culture and abide by them. Advertisers are not evil corporations bent upon mind controlling the general public into a society of sexism, racism, hedonism, and god knows what. Society was already like that BEFORE the advertisers; the advertisers are merely influenced by society, and not the other way around.

Other stupid shit about the class that bothers me is the constant implication that a market economy doesn't work, and that the world is heading towards a complete collapse of our society by 2070 (she actually showed us a video where the author said, our capitalist system is WRONG and will completely collapse in 70 years). Look, I'm not going to argue that capitalism is perfect, or try to defend the obvious shit that happens in a capitalist economy where corporations are more concerned about the bottom line than doing the right thing. However, I am tired of this "eventual collapse of the evil capitalist system" that the Marxists keep harping on every couple of decades. Remember the Great Depression of the 1930s? Where the Soviet Union was ascending while the US and all other market economies were stagnant? Guess what all the commies were saying then? Same shit they're saying now: Capitalism is inherently flawed, it has collapsed, communism is the future. Fast forward 60 years to 1990, and tell me what happened? The Soviets suffered a catastrophic collapse while the US speeds on full sail ahead. And yet, as soon as a recession hits, I get all these commmies emerging from the woodworks with their stupid fucking doomsday prophecies. Jesus, grow up people. If you like a command economy and a centralized society so much move to fucking China, and see how great of a time you will have there.

I'm not arguing that the American capitalist system is perfect. I'm just tired of all the neo-Communists on my campus advocating radical change such as the rejection of all consumer goods and moving towards a hegemonic homogenous society. They argue that consumption and consumer goods are leading our society to self-destruction, so we should just reject is all outright. Listen, I'll agree that there is a lot of bullshit out there that people will overspend on and that has absolutely no purpose. And yet, at the same time, all that bullshit is fueling an economy that drives down the prices of consumer goods that allows me, the consumer, to buy whatever the fuck I want because everything is affordable. If you reject that and move towards some fucked up control economy I won't have the freedom to consume what I want, AND I DON'T WANT THAT. I like my consumer goods just the way they are, thank you very fucking much. I don't want to live like a Chinese peasant for the rest of my life just because some commies think that the ads on my shoe commercials perpetuate racial rifts in society. Fuck you, my society is not perfect, but please realize how much better it is then the feudalist/stalinist whatever the fuck will emerge from the bullshit you are advocating.

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FUCK WHAT DID I JUST TYPE, IT BARELY MAKES SENSE EVEN TO ME. Rant tags added.

Sigh, feels better to get that shit off my chest.

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PostPosted: Tue, 4th May 2010 21:48    Post subject:
might be because black people like to complain ?
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th May 2010 17:22    Post subject:
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might be because black people like to complain ?


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th May 2010 17:24    Post subject:
^^ what do you expect from someone claiming to live in 'the occupied confederate states of america'?


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th May 2010 18:45    Post subject:
If you lived in the USA you would come to the same conclusion whether you live in the south or north.
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th May 2010 18:49    Post subject:
Still a racist remark (singling out black people from other skin colors).


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th May 2010 20:01    Post subject:
adastar wrote:
If you lived in the USA you would come to the same conclusion whether you live in the south or north.


Rolling Eyes weird, that not all our resident u.s. citizens share your view, isnt it? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed, 5th May 2010 20:17    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:
adastar wrote:
If you lived in the USA you would come to the same conclusion whether you live in the south or north.


Rolling Eyes weird, that not all our resident u.s. citizens share your view, isnt it? Rolling Eyes


http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/apr/29/na-entitlement-culture-to-the-extreme/
There must be something redeeming about Angel Adams, but the unemployed mother of 15 living on taxpayers' dime seems intent on hiding it.

We've been told her 12 children who currently live with her are polite and take care of each other. The older kids' teachers say they are doing well in school. Adams must be doing something right.

But rather than gratefully accepting the help society has offered, Adams lashes out: She does not want to comply with social services' guidelines, yet insists the rest of us should pay for her needs. She demands aid but takes no responsibility for her financial problems.

At a time when many families are having a tough time making ends meet and government coffers are stretched thin, this "welfare queen" has understandably infuriated the masses.


i think what you 2 may suggest is racism is really actually not racism but something rooted in fact as most stereotypes are. As to others not mentioning it, how do you know they dont believe it. Now let me play the i have a black friend card, shocking Shocked Shocked
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i think what you 2 may suggest is racism is really actually not racism but something rooted in fact as most stereotypes are. As to others not mentioning it, how do you know they dont believe it. Now let me play the i have a black friend card, shocking


That doesn't make a dent. The fact is that you generalise ALL black people in the US in that one sentence you made. Somehow you seem to ignore that FACT.


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PostPosted: Wed, 5th May 2010 21:01    Post subject:
your generalizations are as much rooted in fact as religion is based on empirism, adastar Rolling Eyes
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commies

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adastar wrote:
commies

Sad


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erick prydz & pink floyd - proper education xD


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th May 2010 02:02    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Wow, you guys have pathetic education systems! Laughing

I mean, seriously, I had to study introduction to astrophysics and I wondered how they brought that to Software Engineering, but come on! Laughing


<- "Physics 3 - nuclear physics". I'm a software engineer Razz I still haven't got a single project where I could use my über nuclear physic knowledge Razz

Not that I would actually really know anything about it... but yea... Specializing more would have been much more interesting than spreading the studies over everything imaginable and over something unimaginable.
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PostPosted: Thu, 6th May 2010 03:34    Post subject:
We only had mechanics and electric physics (or whatever these are called in Eng.). These more advanced physics are reserved for the electronics engineering and other related.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th May 2010 19:08    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
^^ what do you expect from someone claiming to live in 'the occupied confederate states of america'?


Betcha he's a 'Tea Bagger' or part of that lunatic movement.

I've said it before and I will say it again...there is World History and American World Hisotry, American International Current Events and World Current Events,

The sad part this there are plenty of smart Americans but they are silence bu the idiots who seem to dominate the news channels, especially the cable news channels (Fox, CNN, MSNBC etc)


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th May 2010 19:40    Post subject:
I remember back in 2005 when I was an anti-marxist (government brainwashing boo) our psychology prof. forced us (rather recommended but told us he would ask in exam) to read Das Kapital and I refused, and failed that class : ) Ahaha

So my suggestion is reading is good mate, try to take all the possible knowledge you'll ever need or won't, try to become a polymath. Trust me, you'll benefit.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th May 2010 20:34    Post subject:
Lord_IpwnU wrote:
I remember back in 2005 when I was an anti-marxist (government brainwashing boo) our psychology prof. forced us (rather recommended but told us he would ask in exam) to read Das Kapital and I refused, and failed that class : ) Ahaha

So my suggestion is reading is good mate, try to take all the possible knowledge you'll ever need or won't, try to become a polymath. Trust me, you'll benefit.
Oh I read it all. I'll read anything you put in front of me. The thing is, I vehemently disagree with the readings and feel that the authors' view of the world is fundamentally flawed, and that my teacher is just spewing Marxist propaganda by forcing us to read said readings. Furthermore, she has the duty as an educator to give us all points of view on a problem. But she doesn't. She just gives her favorite (radical Marxist-feminist) point of view, and ignores anyone who suggests other points of view. It's not education, it's brainwashing, and I resent it.
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