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| Posted: Thu, 5th Nov 2009 17:14 Post subject: |
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deelix
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Bigperm
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Nov 2009 23:27 Post subject: |
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Um ,the only question i have is why did he get his CC company to issue a charge back? And im not asking why he did this instead of a Paypal dispute. But what was the reason, were you trying to scam him or something??
Dont get your rant at all.
| Jenni wrote: | | I drunk. I don't fucking care! |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2009 00:11 Post subject: |
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I assume it would be fairly easy to get around the "virtual goods" rule, by actually writing the account details down and posting it to his address using some sort of special postage service?
If the scammer knew you where going to do it that way instead, I doubt he would have been "baught" the account in the first place?
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Nov 2009 09:31 Post subject: |
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| Bigperm wrote: | Um ,the only question i have is why did he get his CC company to issue a charge back? And im not asking why he did this instead of a Paypal dispute. But what was the reason, were you trying to scam him or something??
Dont get your rant at all. |
because he probably thought paypal would take the hit rather than me? so he would get an account for free and i would still get the money.
obviously doesnt work that way so i reclaimed the account already by claiming i must have used a computer in an internet cafe that was keylogged .
ive never tried to scam anyone as i said ive sold my old mmo accounts before and the buyers have always been happy.
anyway if i was attempting a scam he could have just done a dispute as he would have won
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| Posted: Sun, 8th Nov 2009 23:40 Post subject: |
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that said its quite annoying not being able to sell mmo accounts since ebay forbid it
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spankie
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 00:22 Post subject: |
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double post...
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spankie
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 00:32 Post subject: |
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if you guys are so stupid to start buying and selling f*cking accounts for some f*cking online game, you all deserve to get scammed now and then.
People download music/movies/apps/games for free but are willing to pay 200$ for some lame online account? That is completely beyond my understanding...
Secondly i do not belief a single word of your story. How the fuck can you be responsible to pay something if you were to receive money? Ok you could end up with 0 instead of 200, too bad, but you tried to sell an online account and it went bad, boohoo, shit happens i guess? It is a lost opportunity, not a loss.
Try to explain to me, in simple words so i can understand, what i am missing.
You sold an account through paypal? And you would get 200$ for it? So he issued a chargeback and het got his money back. So why is paypal asking you 200? As you were not supposed to pay anything, how can you build up a debt by receiving money?
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obviously doesnt work that way so i reclaimed the account already by claiming i must have used a computer in an internet cafe that was keylogged .
ive never tried to scam anyone as i said ive sold my old mmo accounts before and the buyers have always been happy.
anyway if i was attempting a scam he could have just done a dispute as he would have won
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You are an asshole, you know that? Is it really that hard to make money by contributing to the general economy instead of playing 0-sum games where you need to take money from another instead of creating a win-win situation. If you play donkey games, you win some, you lose some; get over it. If you want to play A-hole, accept that you are not always smarter than anybody else and on your counterparty can also fuck you over. Why am i ranting so hard? Because i do not belief you when you say you only try to reclaim your account because the deal went wrong. There is a good chance you would do the same when the deal went ok and you would have taken the 200 from the poor man's pocket.
Have some pride and just accept that you placed a bet and lost. I have lost at least 500-1000$ through AdSense accounts on google because my accounts were disactivated because of malusing. Shit happens. There is really no need to whine about it.
And now comes the statistic of the day. Did you know that professional short-term stock traders only have an average 52% hit-ratio, meaning that only 52% of their trades are profitable. So you sold 4 and 1 went wrong, pretty good an absolutely no need to whine about it 
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| Posted: Mon, 9th Nov 2009 01:36 Post subject: |
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alleen kalmte kan je redden makker
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 18:56 Post subject: |
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Modern 'art' is a self contained market where the auction houses bid on their own lots to massively inflate the price and their subsequent commission; or where collectors monopolise an artists paintings in order to give the impression of rarity. Of course this type of practice is illegal in most economic spectra, but the rules don't apply to art since it isn't considered a commodity.
This makes it a very poor example of the financial dynamics in society.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 20:21 Post subject: |
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Modern "art" is also, to me, hideous. Almost universally. Knowing that someone would dare pay millions for such things makes me sad.
As far as MMO accounts go, well, the individuals paying hundreds for them aren't really in "society" in any healthy sense. They're looking for shortcuts to the "real game" at the upper end of the power scale so that they can play with their friends -- which is completely understandable (to a point). Account buyers are likely thinking they'll save money (or spend money up front) that would be going into monthly fees anyway. They definitely save time.
MMOs ... Jesus Christ. The entire industry is basically a giant Fuck You scam.
Disclaimer: I detest MMOs.
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| Posted: Tue, 10th Nov 2009 20:27 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | Modern 'art' is a self contained market where the auction houses bid on their own lots to massively inflate the price and their subsequent commission; or where collectors monopolise an artists paintings in order to give the impression of rarity. Of course this type of practice is illegal in most economic spectra, but the rules don't apply to art since it isn't considered a commodity.
This makes it a very poor example of the financial dynamics in society. |
Not to mention price fixing between the major players which leads to a virtual monopoly but my point wasn't about the (in)efficiency of markets. It was about the concept of value and how perception plays a big role in determining price. Especially in the case of goods which don't have any intrinsinc value such as art or in this case virtual goods.
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