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MAD_MAX333
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 Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 21:32 Post subject: [PSP] [DS/PSP] which one to buy?? |
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man this is nuts, i want to buy one of these two, but i don't know which...
i want best quality games i can get and i want more mature games... DS is already out here in toronto but PSP is coming out in march 24th... for my need i should wait for PSP right?>?
and i always wondered how long does it take to finish a portable game?? i always wonder if its like 2 hours... ( i know it's probably much more)
which one would you choose?
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 21:36 Post subject: |
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Here is what a wrote on another forum.
Anyways, I got the DS at release, and I love it. I am dissapointed that nintendo sold it in the wrong ways though. With the current new news on the new GB, its pretty apparent that they didnt give people the right info on what the DS actually was going to be. Personally, im still glad though, because I like the fact that the DS is just way more functional. It has longer battery life, touchscreen (which means awesome RPG and RTS games), the 2 screens which can add to some coolness, and the wireless.
When the new GB does come out, I will have to see how things are, but personally, I could care less about having better graphics, better graphics != better games. I cant possibly see how you PSP lovers can say the PSP will have better games.
1.) Because the PSP is a portable device, they need to sell the games for cheaper, but since the games can be of console quality its a hard balance. So the only solution is to either - Sell the games for more money at a 50 dollar price, or not make new games, but make ports.
2.) There is nothing new here with the PSP, and frankly, I would rather have the touchscreen because it forces developers to make games in a new way.
On top of that, and this is my biggest arguement, because I travel a lot, 5 Hours of max battery life while playing the games on the PSP is just lame. GameGear Anyone? I'm sorry, but 5 hours doesnt cut it. Not to mention if you watch a movie according to sony you only have 2.5 hours of battery life. And the the battery times from sony are with the backlight on medium power level, and using headphones. You get the point. Unless sony can pull something out of its *** to give it more battery life, I will not consider the PSP a portable device for this reason. My DS has around 11 hours of battery life with both screen's backlights on, and the volume coming out of its own speakers at a low-medium level. Not to mention I can still play normal GBA games which then use even less power.
Overall I see a much brighter future for the DS because of its innovative features, and portability. As the founder of nintendo said in a wired article about the DS vs. PSP - "By the time you are done loading up the game on the PSP, you will be out of battery power."
Also, here is what I said in an earlier thread, which gives even more reason why I like the DS better. I really think the DS wins this arguement as to which is the better PORTABLE handheld device, the only reason I can find for the PSP being better is the fact that it has better graphics/and a big screen. But the fact still remains that its not very portable.
"I have played both systems, and I must say, I like the DS better. The psp is nice, but only for one reason, graphics. Everything else about it is un-innovative, and poorly made.. First off, the buttons on the PSP snap off very easily, the screen scratches easy, and you can bend the unit very easily, and it ruins the screen. So aside from the non-quality manufacturing, I guess its OK. BUT I still didnt like the fact that (yes, and I did test this hands on) its max battery life while playing a normal PSP game was around 5 hours. And the max life while watching one of its movies, was around 2.5 hours. This was with backlight on medium-low level, and listening through the headphones. My DS easily reaches 10 hours running one of its full blown games with both backlights on, and using the sound through its onboard speakers. Not to mention the DS is more protected because of its clam shell design, and just isnt so fragile.
So now that we got battery/quality issues mentioned lets move to the real juice of why I like the DS better.
TouchScreen - The touchscreen is innovation, and it allows new forms of gameplay, not to mention we will be able to have REAL strategy games on the DS that are easily controlled.
Dual Screens - I like the idea of having the two screens more then one giant screen, once again, more room for gaming innovation.
The DS is able to play GBA games - Yes, it is able to play GBA games, and there are a lot of good GBA games out there.
The nintendo GBA cart port - Because nintendo decided to keep the abillity to play GBA games, and keep the cart port on the DS, this opens up A LOT for the DS. Because of this port you can easily add expansion cards to the DS that do anything from storage, to a rumble pack. Not to mention I am in the area of certain "activities", and it is possible to run the new DS code through the expansion slot off a GBA flash cart... Basically, because of this expansion slot, you will be able to have more advanced features in the future, it really is an expansion slot.
Better Emulation - The DS is much more powerful for emulating older game consoles then the PSP is. This is mainly because of the fact that it has features on it, which dont need to be emulated, such as mode7 from the SNES. Also because of the way the DS renders things, it is also easier. The PSP will NEVER be able to fully emulate the SNES, even though the PSP has a more speedy processor behind it, that doesnt mean jack. It requires a modern day computer to FULLY emulate the snes. But since the DS has almost all the same workings as the SNES had, you dont need that massive amount of processing power to make it work. Because of how the PSP is so completly different from most older consoles, I would say the max the PSP could emulate fully is NES, and the GBA can allready fully emulate the NES at good speeds. Not to mention the GBA can partially emulate SNES allready, but because of the DS's further power, SNES emulation will be easy on it. And emulating genesis on the DS will be cake to...
Games - Personally I like the games that are coming out for the DS more then the ones coming out for the PSP. Why? Because they are more unique, because of the touchpad and the dual screens.
And finally, this goes with innovation, but do any of you people even remember the crash of 83? The PSP supports "Graphics Whoring". And this is exactly how the console crash of 83' occured. The game companies were to concerned with outdoing eachother with better systems, and they didnt spend the time to actually use their just released system to its fullest extent. I find it scary that game systems of today are being over run in only a period of 2-3 years. The DS trys to stay away from this path by presenting innovation, the PSP does not.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 21:42 Post subject: |
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And you must remember, nintendo has stated that the DS is a new line of device. It was not meant to replace the GBA. Its real purpose is a PDA of sorts with the capability to run N64 quality games. This can be seen with nintendo's recent release of information on apps they are making for the DS. These include a dictionary program, and mind puzzle programs. If you want a pure gaming device, then wait for the new GB coming out this christmas, if you want a device that is a PDA but also has probally the best gaming capabilities on the market, then get the DS.
I'm also much more excited about the games coming out for the DS. That nintendogs looks kick ass, and of course I cant wait for the full metroid prime: Hunters game. And the fact that REAL strategy/RPG's can be made for the DS because of the touchscreen makes me giddy to.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 22:34 Post subject: |
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Im choosin' PSP for the Memory Stick Duo, This little device might be a gateway to Warez on the PSP, Movies, Music and Storage.
Also I think the PS2 Alike graphics would blow me away... (GTA)
The PSP will also support PDA elements: Text Editor, 3 intern Games, Netbrowser, SIM card compability, etc
Though kind a sad that Age of Empire is coming for DS  But what the heck u can't have it all, eh?
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 22:42 Post subject: |
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How you could choose the PSP for PDA elements is vexing. The DS has a touchscreen, the PSP does not. The PSP is not portable, the DS is.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 22:51 Post subject: |
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Hmm I can take the PSP outside and play with it... Just like my penis that means its portable...
Anyway sure DS have touch screen but thats the only advantage besides the mic that really could be helpful for the PDA Elements in the DS... I'll rather have a Machine that can have PS2 Graphics, Movie Playback, MP3 playback etc then the DS...
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 23:29 Post subject: |
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why that note about the battery life is not good, someone post a link for the new gb ... nintendo has a rep for rlsing kiddy games, so that's why psp looks better to me so far.. and i don't need a PDA i have one... just games, games games and more games
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 23:47 Post subject: |
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Who cares if its a kiddy game if the game is good anyways? I love it when people make the comment that kiddy games suck, even though they can be very good. Not to mention the fact that gaming is child like to begin with.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 23:47 Post subject: |
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| Mutantius wrote: | Hmm I can take the PSP outside and play with it... Just like my penis that means its portable...
Anyway sure DS have touch screen but thats the only advantage besides the mic that really could be helpful for the PDA Elements in the DS... I'll rather have a Machine that can have PS2 Graphics, Movie Playback, MP3 playback etc then the DS... |
By the time your done loading the game, youll have no more juice left in the battery to play it.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 07:24 Post subject: |
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Yes I will: Psp.ign.com
U really got to have a more broad point of view Mchart your comments are naive...
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 07:32 Post subject: |
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yea i kinda notcied that he has his own opinions and wont change his ways even though it's staring him in the face.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 10:07 Post subject: |
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i have both so i don't care and the option isn't in the poll, both are excellent devices, flash linker comming tomorrow for DS to play all those GBA game - bonus!
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 10:43 Post subject: |
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What about playing DS copies on the DS?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 11:45 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 15:49 Post subject: |
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So Steve-O u had a psp aye?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 17:33 Post subject: |
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yeah me2... Any price official in the UK?
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Mar 2005 19:58 Post subject: |
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£90, your having a laugh it'll be £149 i'll bet at least if it ever comes out.
and yeah ridge racer on Ds vs PSP is massive difference, like i say i know i own both, and i will never buy a game on DS thats on both as PSP wins every time on graphics.
another example is tiger woods for Ds and PSP, PSP simply miles better.
But i only wanted the DS for nintendo games, Mario64, youshi Touch&Go, Metroid Prime Hunters, Mario Kart, New Mario Platform Game, WarioWare and any other interesting game that use's the touch and mic feature
atm the Ds is getting played more than my PSP, maybe because the games on DS are more fun atm, i dunno, but i wouldn't be parted with either.
one thing i would say though is the sound is better on DS compared to PSP without the headphones, if using headphones then about the same.
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