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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:27    Post subject: Swedish police
Driving back home from Roskilde, Denmark I drive through Sweden. Im going 145 in a 110 zone on the highway. Using the left lane... at the moment that was actually following the traffic. Suddenly I see a swedish police car like 4-5 meters behind me (I actually really jumped in my seat when I saw it) because at these speeds I check my mirrors very often so it had to be driving really fast. I get fast as fuck back to the right lane, and he doesn't turn on any lights or sirens but accelerates past me at about 160+ . He cuts infront of a car to get off an exit... still no sirens or lights. I slow down to see where he is heading in my rear view. And he parks at the gas station.... probably to get a a burger or something Neutral

Well, im happy about not being pulled over. In Norway id actually loose my drivers license for going so fast :/ But its not the first time iv seen swedish police speeding like crazy people for no reason Wink Totally different driving culture in Sweden and Denmark than Norway tho Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:29    Post subject:
Why did you drive over the speed limit??


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:32    Post subject:
1. Because the fines in Sweden are so low
2. It was dry and felt safe, as I said following the traffic
3. oh yeah, its boring as hell to drive through Sweden Crying or Very sad I just wanted to get home fast and get some proper sleep Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:35    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
1. Because the fines in Sweden are so low
2. It was dry and felt safe, as I said following the traffic
3. oh yeah, its boring as hell to drive through Sweden Crying or Very sad I just wanted to get home fast and get some proper sleep Wink


Really... you drive too fast cos the fines are low??? The speed limit is there for a reason and no matter if you think if feels safe or not they should be followed.
but point 3 I do agree on Razz Atleast when it comes to driving along the bigger roads. Really boring!


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:38    Post subject:
Ankh: A LOT of people with high-income I know reason the same way. It's the same with parking tickets, they'd rather take a parking ticket than waste work hours on finding a parking spot and walking to their work place. It's pretty funny when I come to think of it.

In Finland the fines for speeding are income-based (percentage) which makes it a bit more fair imo.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:38    Post subject:
Yeah I usually drive like 30-40kmh above the speed limit on the freeways here in sweden. Dont really see the point in driving exactly at the limit. Different when I drive in the city though, have to be more careful because of all the morons riding bicycles...


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:39    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
Ankh: A LOT of people with high-income I know reason the same way. It's the same with parking tickets, they'd rather take a parking ticket than waste work hours on finding a parking spot and walking to their work place. It's pretty funny when I come to think of it.

In Finland the fines for speeding are income-based (percentage) which makes it a bit more fair imo.


Yeah I know about both people with high income and finlands income based. I really dislke people who breaks the law just cos they can afford. It's selfish and disrespect to other people on the road.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:41    Post subject:
Acer wrote:
Yeah I usually drive like 30-40kmh above the speed limit on the freeways here in sweden. Dont really see the point in driving exactly at the limit. Different when I drive in the city though, have to be more careful because of all the morons riding bicycles...


It's really funny, friends, parents, it's all the same when I'm a passenger in their car, EVERYONE complains how bad other drivers are, how stupid cyclists are, etc. - literally everyone. It's probably true though, which means that everyone that complains (including you) are terrible drivers as well.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:42    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
deelix wrote:
1. Because the fines in Sweden are so low
2. It was dry and felt safe, as I said following the traffic
3. oh yeah, its boring as hell to drive through Sweden Crying or Very sad I just wanted to get home fast and get some proper sleep Wink


Really... you drive too fast cos the fines are low???
Actually yes, and the sad thing is that most Norwegians do. We know this and let some steam out whenever we are in Sweden Very Happy Anyway, the difference between a good class A highway and the Autobahn is politics anyway. Most road deaths happen on country roads where there is nothing physical in the middle of the road to prevent head-on collisions.

Got a lot of respect for speed limits in urban and city areas. And everywhere at wintertime
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:43    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
fisk wrote:
Ankh: A LOT of people with high-income I know reason the same way. It's the same with parking tickets, they'd rather take a parking ticket than waste work hours on finding a parking spot and walking to their work place. It's pretty funny when I come to think of it.

In Finland the fines for speeding are income-based (percentage) which makes it a bit more fair imo.


Yeah I know about both people with high income and finlands income based. I really dislke people who breaks the law just cos they can afford. It's selfish and disrespect to other people on the road.


I don't have a lot of respect for the law myself, unless when it comes to the well being of myself, animals and other people.

With that said, a collision in 110Km/h or a collision in 160Km/h will most likely result in the same way.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:46    Post subject:
Anyways, this thread was not about our driving habits Crying or Very sad
Id just like to know how you Swedes (or people who drive a lot in Sweden) think about the way the police drive/act in traffic.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 16:50    Post subject:
tbh. it feels like they're more interested in statistics than safety imo.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 17:33    Post subject:
145kmh?? in a 110kmh? highway?? here the limit is 120kmh and the cops give at least 130kmh limit no problem, usually i drive 110kmh, i drive faster in the city , dont know why, but 50kmh limit, i usually go in 60 or 70kmh, a few years ago i got 300€ fine 110kmh in a 50 kmh Evil or Very Mad


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 17:36    Post subject:
Congrats you actually saw police in Sweden :O

Their is way too little police in this country, especially when you are used of Belgium. And you can see that in the ratio of people who don't care and just do whatever they want. In every country you have people like that, but the less power/quantity the police force that ratio goes up.

How police drive and such... I don't really care, they have enough of a crap job in this country, I really pity them. And at least they have the skill to drive like that unlike the youth who think they are all rally drivers around here


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 17:37    Post subject:
^^ You definitely deserved more... Have a friend who is a notorious fast driver... Well he lost his license several times and currently it doesn't look good for him to get it back... which is good for all other drivers and pedestrians I guess Smile

For me, being from germany, I do not really understand how you use 160km/h and fast in the same sentence though Cool Face


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 18:21    Post subject:
speedgear wrote:
300€ fine 110kmh in a 50 kmh Evil or Very Mad
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Thats pretty damn dangerous man! At least at daytime :/
110kmh in a 50kmh zone is actually jailtime here, and im totally fine with that.
In Norway there is always 40kmh zones outside schools, unless the school is closed I never go any faster.

Anyways 300 euro fine is what we get for going 15kmh over the limit at a 60 zone. Or 20kmh over in a 70+ zone.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 18:28    Post subject:
It's not so bad. Here's how it usually happens:

You're diving in a 80km/h city boulevard with 21km/h over the speed limit, that's 101km/h on a 3-lane one way road, which is negligible and a fine of around 25eur here.
But suddenly a wild petrol station appears, and there's a sign for a new speed limit of 50km/h, and you miss that sign and there's a camera after the petrol station - BAM 51km/h over the speed limit.
Gets you a fine of 150eur + 3months suspended licence.

A friend of mine did that with a bike, and got his licence suspended for 2months, because he didn't object to the fine. And he was lucky that was in the autumn so he didn't loose that much of bike ride time.

BTW: highway limit is 140km/h, and you won't get a ticket unless you go over 151km/h, so you can go 150km/h on the highway non-stop. But people generally either drive 100-130km/h or 160-200km/h+. I just set the cruise control to 148..


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 19:11    Post subject:
Its human nature to do 10-20 over the speedlimit no matter what it is, at least on freeways. If the limit is 140, people will do 150-160. As most Norwegians do 120 in 100 zones. Yes, Norway has a 100 zone max limit Makes us special in a boring way.... -.-
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 19:47    Post subject:
And every one of them should have their license revoked indefinitely. And i love how every single person driving is saying how they are better then anyone else and every other driver, cyclist, pedestrian is an idiot and blabla.

Yeah, not a big fan of cars and people driving them (without any respect for the life of others).
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 21:14    Post subject:
This thread is so stupid that I agree with Sin317!!

Fuck those piss poor reasons - wait till you know someone that died because of tired people wanting to come home earlier.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 21:25    Post subject:
Doh! wrote:
This thread is so stupid that I agree with Sin317!!

Fuck those piss poor reasons - wait till you know someone that died because of tired people wanting to come home earlier.
At least we don't have that "two-three beers won't change my driving skills" kind of attitude...
But I also know driving without (pretty much) any sleep is a bad idea, but some energy drinks actually helped me to focus a lot better. And iv never felt asleep behind the wheel as iv heard 50% of people have done once or more. Thats some scary statistics right there O.o
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 22:46    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Doh! wrote:
This thread is so stupid that I agree with Sin317!!

Fuck those piss poor reasons - wait till you know someone that died because of tired people wanting to come home earlier.
At least we don't have that "two-three beers won't change my driving skills" kind of attitude...
But I also know driving without (pretty much) any sleep is a bad idea, but some energy drinks actually helped me to focus a lot better. And iv never felt asleep behind the wheel as iv heard 50% of people have done once or more. Thats some scary statistics right there O.o


Did you just compare something bad with something bad?
"Oh, at least I didn't murder him, I only put him in coma!"

Because that line of argument does just not work.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 22:51    Post subject:
Well I wonder why people still think driving faster will result in a lot of time gained.

I like racing, I like speed but I never do it outside of the track or an abandoned parking in the middle of nowhere.

The best thing my mom said to me before I started driving was: You never know what people will do, so always make sure you are in a position of control rather than assuming what others will do.

But the thing is: everyone think they are the best drivers around. I see it on a daily basis, people in sporty cars going all racy, accelerating fast, driving fast and then you see them taking a curve and you burst in laughter how badly they take them.

Still remember that idiot from my hometown last year, after driving a kid over. "I wasn't driving too fast". Happened in the first few meters of the street mister tuned car accelerating so fast so he couldn't react to the kid on the street. Not his fault, blameless in his view because he kept on the speed limit...

All I want is for people to reconsider their driving habits/style. There are places for that, a town/city or any area with people around is not the place. Something unexpected can always happen, so try to be prepared for such times.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 23:14    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
deelix wrote:
Doh! wrote:
This thread is so stupid that I agree with Sin317!!

Fuck those piss poor reasons - wait till you know someone that died because of tired people wanting to come home earlier.
At least we don't have that "two-three beers won't change my driving skills" kind of attitude...
But I also know driving without (pretty much) any sleep is a bad idea, but some energy drinks actually helped me to focus a lot better. And iv never felt asleep behind the wheel as iv heard 50% of people have done once or more. Thats some scary statistics right there O.o


Did you just compare something bad with something bad?
"Oh, at least I didn't murder him, I only put him in coma!"

Because that line of argument does just not work.
No, im comparing something bad with something worse Wink IMO ofc
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Jul 2013 18:35    Post subject:
Iv only had minor parking accidents, never on a road Wink Must admit there have been some close calls back when I was 18-20... but I don't think that was only me. I now really get what they mean when they say you should have 5-7 years of driving experience before you can consider yourself a good driver. Anyways, the biggest problem with driving fast in the left lane is these people that never check their mirrors or the blind spot... just throws themselves out there. Happened to me last year driving though Sweden... with good breaks on recent cars it was not a problem Smile But its really scary to do such stupid moves :/
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jul 2013 00:24    Post subject:
What i hate about speeding/driving drunk is that, i'dont care care if you end up dead, but more than often people who do end up speeding/driving drunk end up killing the driver who comes from opposite direction and has done nothing wrong. You can't justify your wrong doing when you are not the only one on the road.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jul 2013 04:13    Post subject:
My cousin that I spent my entire childhood with, died driving very fast directly into some tractor.
The reason for his speeding presumed was the Pizzas he had just bought.

What total waste at 26 of age and my aunt has been depressed and drinking since (and its 8 years since now Sad ). No doubt he would had been alive today had he not been speeding needlessly.


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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jul 2013 05:39    Post subject:
pizza? to get it home quickly? or was he eating it on the way and was distracted?
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Jul 2013 07:45    Post subject:
In here most of the people also don't give much shit about the speeding limits. When it says 110Kmh, most "normal" people would drive 130Km/h. (Normal means not old people and incompetent women, lol)

A question for you guys in the rest of the world - Is it common to encounter slow moving cars in the middle and left lane that you have to bypass from the right? Drivers know the left lane is for fast driving only?
Because here it's like people don't understand (especially women and old people) that the left lane is intended to fast moving cars. Can't they see people are bypassing them from the right??? Don't they get it's dangerous and it's their fault??

I just always wondered if only here it's this fucked up.
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