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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 09:34    Post subject: In court today...
.. to finally (hopefully) force "UWV" (the gov) to pay for my education so i can finally start working after a year...

Wish me luck, it's been a long battle and hopefully it payed off.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 09:39    Post subject:
luck Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 09:58    Post subject:
Good luck! Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 09:59    Post subject:
Good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 10:00    Post subject:
Good luck Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 12:34    Post subject:
Luck is good. You need it!
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 13:00    Post subject:
Well just got back.

They are giving the UWV another chance to reopen my case and come with a solution, he has given them 1 month to do so, otherwise he will make the decision.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 13:24    Post subject:
What does it mean come with a solution? Is it not binary outcome - they pay or don't? So why not make the decision and be done with it?
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 14:02    Post subject:
Well the judge said that finding a solution together is less painfull then this whole trial thing.
Even if he says that they can't deny my request for education, then they still have to look for other things.
It's all very fucking confusing for me and tbh, i have no idea what's what now anymore Confused


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 14:03    Post subject:
Hopefully it turns out for the best!
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 14:09    Post subject:
Dont you have a lawyer to clear things up for you?


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 14:11    Post subject:
Good luck! Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 14:12    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
Dont you have a lawyer to clear things up for you?


Nope, neither did they.

It was only a "hoorzitting" (no idea what the english term for it is), so UWV only had a spokesperson there and me with my mom..
One thing i was happy about, the judge seemed to be on my side on the whole subject.
Even agreed that it's fucking insane that i have to go to a judge in order to get work/education for that work Neutral


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 14:23    Post subject:
You not getting a tattoo in the face was probably a good decision then


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 14:25    Post subject:
Haha, yeah glad i got talked out of it here. Was just a emo/depressive moment i had there Neutral


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 14:45    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
You not getting a tattoo in the face was probably a good decision then
I was just thinking about this too.
Maybe things are starting to turn for you instead of turning against you.

Also happened to me since the beginning of this year. Smile




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 15:14    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
"hoorzitting"

A hearing would be the English term Wink

Good luck anyway saus. UWV are fucking retards though, so don't hold your breath on the "finding a solution" part.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 15:24    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
PumpAction wrote:
You not getting a tattoo in the face was probably a good decision then
I was just thinking about this too.
Maybe things are starting to turn for you instead of turning against you.

Also happened to me since the beginning of this year. Smile


This would be very rare and very surprising for me, because since i was 7 (27 now) i have had nothing but fucking shit in my life, barely anything actually worked out the way i wanted and i always got kicked back into the ditch when i tried to get out of it..

Werelds wrote:
sausje wrote:
"hoorzitting"

A hearing would be the English term Wink

Good luck anyway saus. UWV are fucking retards though, so don't hold your breath on the "finding a solution" part.


Ah, should had known it was that easy to translate

And yeah, I, personally, don't think that this is going to matter much, i offered them a ~€2000,- plan to get me the right education within the year so i could start working at virtually every IT company out here, compared to their €17.000 plan they had 2 years ago, and still they don't want that Neutral
They even put me on a school before that was €45.000,- per year, so why now suddenly is €2000,- too much to ask Confused


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 16:18    Post subject:
Didn't you have a medical condition that made it hard for you to work? Maybe that's their reason? Good luck though, going through that bureaucratic mess can't be fun.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 16:53    Post subject:
sausje look at the bright side. If this fails you still have a cousin in the porn industry.
She makes some calls and you'll be the next big porn star with the name Rossage Sausage.
Pffchh
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Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 16:55    Post subject:
sausje wrote:
PumpAction wrote:
Dont you have a lawyer to clear things up for you?


Nope, neither did they.

It was only a "hoorzitting" (no idea what the english term for it is), so UWV only had a spokesperson there and me with my mom..
One thing i was happy about, the judge seemed to be on my side on the whole subject.
Even agreed that it's fucking insane that i have to go to a judge in order to get work/education for that work Neutral

hoorzitting = hearing Wink


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 16:57    Post subject:
monk3ybusin3ss wrote:
sausje look at the bright side. If this fails you still have a cousin in the porn industry.
She makes some calls and you'll be the next big porn star with the name Rossage Sausage.
Pffchh

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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 17:24    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Didn't you have a medical condition that made it hard for you to work? Maybe that's their reason? Good luck though, going through that bureaucratic mess can't be fun.


Well yes, officially i'm 80 to 100% unable to work, i did a retest (on my demand) 2 years ago, they said i'd improved, but still not good enough.. Sad

monk3ybusin3ss wrote:
sausje look at the bright side. If this fails you still have a cousin in the porn industry.
She makes some calls and you'll be the next big porn star with the name Rossage Sausage.
Pffchh


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monk3ybusin3ss wrote:
sausje look at the bright side. If this fails you still have a cousin in the porn industry.
She makes some calls and you'll be the next big porn star with the name Rossage Sausage.
Pffchh


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 18:45    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
monk3ybusin3ss wrote:
sausje look at the bright side. If this fails you still have a cousin in the porn industry.
She makes some calls and you'll be the next big porn star with the name Rossage Sausage.
Pffchh


Perhaps they can make a video together Devil Troll


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 18:50    Post subject:
monk3ybusin3ss wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
monk3ybusin3ss wrote:
sausje look at the bright side. If this fails you still have a cousin in the porn industry.
She makes some calls and you'll be the next big porn star with the name Rossage Sausage.
Pffchh


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 19:00    Post subject:
Good luck sausje!


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Feb 2013 19:29    Post subject:
It's time to turn your life around, best of luck Saus Smile Make 'em pay! (literally xD)
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Apr 2013 20:01    Post subject:
Well, a month has passed (well a little over), their time is up.

All i got was 2 mails, them asking me if i wanted to do something else besides ICT.

I replied "No" to them, saying that it will be their easy way out of this if i would had said yes, to saddle me up with something retarded like factory work or so (factory workers, don't get offended please, it's just an expression in this case).
I told them that they had more then enough years to come with those kind of solutions and now suddenly, after i sued them, they come with this.

Then i got another mail from them with the key words in there "that's all i wanted to hear".
Knowing well they are going to use that what i said.
Hopefully the judge knows my POV on that and will agree with the fact that they just wanted to TRY and make this an easy solution, by offering something stupid.
After all these years of fighting and finally court, i'm not going to take peace with ANYTHING else other then an ICT job (and hopefully school included).

I offered them a solution that would reduce the costs of the school by 90%!!! Bringing it down to only €2000-2500 (instead of the €17k it would cost before).
But they didn't bother to say ANYTHING at all on that subject...

Now to wait and see what the judge has to say...
Since last time he did see my points and stood by my side, i hope this time this will be the same again.


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