Water Cooling
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Oddmaker
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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Apr 2013 21:03    Post subject: Water Cooling
Ellooo

I know some of you guys and girls have water cooling on your system, I want to get into it but something that's easy to put together and cheap, any ideas?

Cheers


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Apr 2013 21:15    Post subject:
SpikeZ where you at?


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PostPosted: Tue, 16th Apr 2013 22:39    Post subject:
This is something I have been thinking about recently.

What are the all in one kits like? ... The kits that come with everything you need.


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Apr 2013 03:47    Post subject:
XSPC is one of the top dogs in the world of watercooling. They aren't the best, but what they offer is amazing for what you pay. Look around your shops and look for a kit they make called the XSPC Raystorm. It comes with everything you're going to need. Pump/Resevoir (pump built into it), CPU block which is one of the top water blocks, hosing, clamps (garbage), radiator, fans for pushing air (order the same amount more for push/pull), fittings. I do recommend if you get this kit to get different tubing, the stuff they include is pretty trash. It's dirt cheap anyways. 2.50 a meter in the US.

There's different models for the Raystorm. RS360, RS240, RX360, RX240, EK340 etc etc. the RS and RX are pretty much the same thing except the RS is a thinner rad. I use the RS360 and it does GREAT for cpu, but if you're using a higher end intel, I'd probably spend the extra few bucks on an RX.

The EK or whatever of the sets are more powerful pumps if you plan on building a beast of a system and need the pump power.

The kit is enough to cool your CPU and MAYBE a gpu with light OC'ing.

Rule of thumb is you want a minimum of 120mm per block, with an extra 120mm for headroom. So for a CPU, you'd want at least a 240mm.

Now you can just say screw all that building it yourself if you want. Swiftech makes an amazing All in one kid that is already pre-built like the corsair series. The difference is, is it's made by Swiftech which are the kings of watercooling. The pump is a beast and can handle much more than what they include. It's also made so you can add on to it. So once you get used to the idea of there being water in your system, you can choose to add a GPU block if you'd like or VRM waterblocks or whatever your heart desires.

So just a recap what you want:

1) -XSPC Raystorm kit (RX240/RS360 minumum)
OR
-Swiftech H220
2) PT Nuke. This is an additive to the water you'll use to keep it clean.
3) Distilled water. Less than a buck for a gallon. Don't buy any of that over marketed crap they sell for 5 bucks for 20oz. Distilled water is all you need. DISTILLED. Not tap water, not toilet water, DISTILLED
4) Confidence Smile

If you WANT, you can get the Corsair ones, they're alright but that's where they stop. You can't add much more to the loop without modifiying it and the pumps are weak. They are good enough just for what it is.

If ya wanna talk more 1 on 1 hit me up on steam or something, I use pretty much everything, I'm more than glad to go through all of this with ya. I personally say do the XSPC kit, it's what my loop started off with until I added a bunch more to it.

When I got the XSPC Kit I was new to building my own loop.
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After I got the confidence on how to do it properly and add my own stuff to it
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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Apr 2013 09:12    Post subject:
SpykeZ, what's your opinion on additives vs killcoil?


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PostPosted: Wed, 17th Apr 2013 12:51    Post subject:
difm wrote:
SpykeZ, what's your opinion on additives vs killcoil?


Additives I think work better but they're cheap enough to just use both. I don't like the kill coils since they can move around, I use the magic bullet from monsoon


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jan 2021 12:16    Post subject:
Decided to have a play with a simple water cooling loop for my 5600X during my Xmas holidays.

I've been wanting to try WC for some time but was to scared with mixing water and electrical components Shocked What can go wrong!

So far it's really cool and quiet and I'm very happy with the results. I've some better case fans on the way as they are the only thing making any extra noise right now. The 3080 is surprisingly quiet, just need to sort out the sag, this card is big and heavy.

I plan on adding the 3080 to the loop once EK release the MSI 3080 waterblock. I'll add another rad to the front intake also.
Hard tubing would be nice eventually but that's not high up on my list. I'm going change the coolant to a solid white coolant once the 3080 is in the loop.

Anyone else on here using water setup?



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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jan 2021 12:38    Post subject:
Get bykski waterblock for that MSI card, no reason to wait for overpriced EK, bykski is as good. I have full loop coming from china, ordered all stuff from bykski ( 2x 3cm thick 360 red copper rads, D5 pump / reservoir, AM4 waterblock, loads of fittings, vertical GPU bracket + riser cable), will use Phanteks Glacier block for 2080ti strix tho, since found one used just for 40 eur Very Happy.


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jan 2021 12:56    Post subject:
Thanks for the heads up Breezer, the bykski get good reviews.

Did you use Alixpress for you parts, If so what seller did you use?

£88 on Ali Surprised


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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Jan 2021 14:36    Post subject:
Ordered from aliexpress , "Bykski authentic mod store". Yes Bykski stuff is cheap, got all what i listed for 350 euros shipped Laughing. Btw i would not use any colored shit liquids, they gunk out your loop and you need to tear whole shit apart and clean throughly.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Jan 2021 23:07    Post subject:
Black & White feat. RGB x Tiny Micro Bubbles, "shot with iPhone" Laughing.

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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Jan 2021 23:14    Post subject:
Looks awesome Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Feb 2021 03:09    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Get bykski waterblock for that MSI card, no reason to wait for overpriced EK, bykski is as good. I have full loop coming from china, ordered all stuff from bykski ( 2x 3cm thick 360 red copper rads, D5 pump / reservoir, AM4 waterblock, loads of fittings, vertical GPU bracket + riser cable), will use Phanteks Glacier block for 2080ti strix tho, since found one used just for 40 eur Very Happy.


Forgot about this, but thanks! I am looking into the pieces to get something similar Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 6th Feb 2021 19:52    Post subject: Re: Water Cooling
Oddmaker wrote:
Ellooo

I know some of you guys and girls have water cooling on your system, I want to get into it but something that's easy to put together and cheap, any ideas?

Cheers


Watercooling is definitely not cheap unless you go with a kit. But a lot of the parts are reusable for multiple builds to it has its benefits. I learned everything from google and forums back in 2009/2010 but these days you have youtube videos for everything. I havent had a single leak in 10+ years

Ive been using mostly the same parts (Swiftech pump, Thermochill radiator) that I used from 2010 until 2020. But I was getting tired of the same aesthetics for 10 years so I did brand new build at the end of 2020 for myself.









Its much easier to get into watercooling now than it ever was before IMO. For example this was my first time ever attempting hard tubing (I used bitspower acrylic) and I learned it all from YT videos and here is my result. There are even new ways to leak test with just an air pump and no water (https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-leak-tester) which blew my mind (why wasnt this a thing back in 2010).

Anyways watercooling IMO is totally worth it. I think you should try it



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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2021 05:54    Post subject:


Nice rig Smile Well done, and yeah, you can never go back once on water Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2021 09:08    Post subject:
A hell of a setup ! Shocked

Well done @@timechange01


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2021 11:15    Post subject:
Certainly a step forward from washing your laptop with soap Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2021 23:23    Post subject:
@timechange01
Very nice! well done.

Now just to switch it all from the default "newb rainbow unicorn puke" RGB and your golden Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Feb 2021 23:39    Post subject:
... am I the only one who dislikes all this glassy/rgb/butcher-light-inside-my-case shit? I'll grab my coat then Sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 04:30    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
A hell of a setup ! Shocked

Well done @@timechange01


Thank you!

Stormwolf wrote:
Certainly a step forward from washing your laptop with soap Very Happy


This was the last draw back in 2009 before I got into watercooling



This cooling setup was just not working for me Laughing

tonizito wrote:
... am I the only one who dislikes all this glassy/rgb/butcher-light-inside-my-case shit? I'll grab my coat then Sad


Lmao I have become obsessed with RGB! I have no idea why I find pleasure out of RGB so much. My mouse, keyboard, and even monitor have RGB synced via Aura Sync Laughing

The main reason why I decided to go with acrylic tubing is I always liked how slick clear tubing looked but with regular soft tubing it gets cloudy overtime due to the tubing plasticizer. The only way to truly stay crystal clear is with either acrylic or glass. Even PETG gets somewhat cloudy, its hard to notice but Ive noticed it.

And if anybody is wondering why I dont have my GPU watercooled, its because 3080 FTW3 waterblocks have been sold out for months. I finally just got mine this weekend



My build is almost complete!



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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 11:10    Post subject:
I treated myself to a new build for crimbo. I put some rgb in for the first time but spent the first few days trying to obtain a free windows 10 license by upgrading from a pirate windows 7, trying to get windows 7 working on new hardware was just not happening. Anyway i spent those few days subjected to the default rainbow schemes on the ram, fans and gpu and it completely killed rgb for me Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 13:42    Post subject:
gordonash wrote:
I treated myself to a new build for crimbo. I put some rgb in for the first time but spent the first few days trying to obtain a free windows 10 license by upgrading from a pirate windows 7, trying to get windows 7 working on new hardware was just not happening. Anyway i spent those few days subjected to the default rainbow schemes on the ram, fans and gpu and it completely killed rgb for me Laughing


The first power-up with the whole rig going rainbow fireworks killed the whole appeal too, stuck at a solid white colour for now Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 19:22    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
gordonash wrote:
I treated myself to a new build for crimbo. I put some rgb in for the first time but spent the first few days trying to obtain a free windows 10 license by upgrading from a pirate windows 7, trying to get windows 7 working on new hardware was just not happening. Anyway i spent those few days subjected to the default rainbow schemes on the ram, fans and gpu and it completely killed rgb for me Laughing


The first power-up with the whole rig going rainbow fireworks killed the whole appeal too, stuck at a solid white colour for now Very Happy


I went full addressable RGB on my pump, fans and cpu block.
Didn’t realise I also fucking hate rainbows 🌈
I also have a nice dim white throughout my build.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 19:32    Post subject:
RGB needs some universal simple software, i fucking hate that i need to have 10 different RGB (non working) software on my PC at startup.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 20:40    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
RGB needs some universal simple software, i fucking hate that i need to have 10 different RGB (non working) software on my PC at startup.


I use Aquacomputer software with an Octo board. Controls all of my fans and pump speeds and also excellent argb control.


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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 22:23    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
RGB needs some universal simple software, i fucking hate that i need to have 10 different RGB (non working) software on my PC at startup.


I control all my RGB with only Asus Aura Sync software. All EK products and basically anything with addressable RGB can plug into my RGB hub and be controlled via Aura Sync

My Aura Sync software controls RGB of the following in my rig:
1. Motherboard
2. Lian-Li Unifans
3. EK Distribution block
4. EK CPU waterblock
5. ROG Thor 1200W Power Supply
6. ROG Keyboard
7. ROG Mouse
8. ROG Monitor
9. Front glass panel of my case
10. G.Skill RGB memory sticks

I will be adding an EK GPU block to this in the next week or so



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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 22:36    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
The first power-up with the whole rig going rainbow fireworks killed the whole appeal too, stuck at a solid white colour for now Very Happy


This is exactly how i planned to use the RGB. Have a simple colour and if you get bored with it you can change it to another.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 22:57    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
RGB needs some universal simple software, i fucking hate that i need to have 10 different RGB (non working) software on my PC at startup.


OpenRGB, but it's buggy and has been known to brick boards.
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Feb 2021 23:05    Post subject:
Grale wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
RGB needs some universal simple software, i fucking hate that i need to have 10 different RGB (non working) software on my PC at startup.


I use Aquacomputer software with an Octo board. Controls all of my fans and pump speeds and also excellent argb control.


forgot totally that it can run rgb stuff, i have the quadro version. Has some odd connector tho, i have all my RGB with 5V connectors.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Feb 2021 00:51    Post subject:
@timechange01

Nice build man, i suppose you use clear coolant?
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