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 Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 18:43 Post subject: Piracy all but dead |
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Well, not quite - but it's obviously at a very low level compared to years past.
Funny thing:
I don't mind.
Buying online has become so convenient and reasonable in terms of price (if you look for it hard enough) - that I have absolutely no problem with piracy going away.
The exception might be if movies/tv shows weren't timely pirated - because I don't think I could afford "testing" all the crap out there.
But still, I seem to recall a time when I was worried about piracy going away - and it's interesting to see how things have evolved.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 18:52 Post subject: |
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Huh what you talking about? Everything comes out and can be acquired for free. If anything, piracy is so wide spread that nonsense like nfo hunting and the "scene" have become obsolete and laughable. Games get cracked by "p2p" before the scene, film releases are far superior from torrent trackers and people actually buy shows from iTunes and upload them on torrents and usenet. So, organized piracy might be at its lowest, but not because of the reasons you might think.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 18:53 Post subject: |
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You are just bad at this. OP.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 18:59 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: | Well, not quite - but it's obviously at a very low level compared to years past.
Funny thing:
I don't mind.
Buying online has become so convenient and reasonable in terms of price (if you look for it hard enough) - that I have absolutely no problem with piracy going away.
The exception might be if movies/tv shows weren't timely pirated - because I don't think I could afford "testing" all the crap out there.
But still, I seem to recall a time when I was worried about piracy going away - and it's interesting to see how things have evolved. |
Funny thing:
You do. Badly
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:00 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | Casus wrote: | Well, not quite - but it's obviously at a very low level compared to years past.
Funny thing:
I don't mind.
Buying online has become so convenient and reasonable in terms of price (if you look for it hard enough) - that I have absolutely no problem with piracy going away.
The exception might be if movies/tv shows weren't timely pirated - because I don't think I could afford "testing" all the crap out there.
But still, I seem to recall a time when I was worried about piracy going away - and it's interesting to see how things have evolved. |
Funny thing:
You do. Badly |
Could you at least approach the vicinity of a valid statement in your posts?
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:06 Post subject: |
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I can appreciate if this is personal - as that's a normal human weakness.
But, if you have any desire to be objective - you have to admit that the "scene" has changed - and that a LOT of gamers who used to be avid pirates have gone at least partially legit. That's certainly my impression based on this site.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:08 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: | You might be unaware, being so young 
But - in the past - movies and games were typically available days, weeks or even months before their official release.
These days, we need to wait for movies to become available on DVD/Bluray before they're pirated - and screeners are rare - and several games are never pirated because they have a strong online segment. For games that ARE pirated - we almost exclusively have to wait for a day or two after official release, at which point most people who're interested have already bought it. That makes piracy much less desirable/interesting than in the past.
As for music/TV - I'm not including them.
Still, I suppose we can pretend things are what they used to be - for your sake. |
Watch out, we have an oldfag over here. 
What are these screeners you speak of? VHS screeners? Telecine? You can keep those away. As oppose to your "old days" of past, nowadays we "young folk" care about the quality of what we watch, both content-wise and superficial-wise; a 4:3 568x426 is simply terrible.
The only thing that is killing piracy is the terribly low quality entertainment spewed these days, targeted at a retarded mainstream generation. It is killing piracy in the sense that there is just no point in downloading something so godawful. |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:09 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: | | But, if you have any desire to be objective - you have to admit that the "scene" has changed - and that a LOT of gamers who used to be avid pirates have gone at least partially legit. That's certainly my impression based on this site. |
You know what that is? Because, first, people grew up and for the most part have jobs now that can sustain their gaming needs, and second, good games are so rare these days, people do not mind buying them. |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:11 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Casus wrote: | You might be unaware, being so young
But - in the past - movies and games were typically available days, weeks or even months before their official release.
These days, we need to wait for movies to become available on DVD/Bluray before they're pirated - and screeners are rare - and several games are never pirated because they have a strong online segment. For games that ARE pirated - we almost exclusively have to wait for a day or two after official release, at which point most people who're interested have already bought it. That makes piracy much less desirable/interesting than in the past.
As for music/TV - I'm not including them.
Still, I suppose we can pretend things are what they used to be - for your sake. |
Watch out, we have an oldfag over here.
What are these screeners you speak of? VHS screeners? Telecine? You can keep those away. As oppose to your "old days" of past, nowadays we "young folk" care about the quality of what we watch, both content-wise and superficial-wise; a 4:3 568x426 is simply terrible.
The only thing that is killing piracy is the terribly low quality entertainment spewed these days, targeted at a retarded mainstream generation. It is killing piracy in the sense that there is just no point in downloading something so godawful. |
Oldfag? I'm flattered.
As for screeners - there used to be DVD screeners for most movies (before bluray) - but the movie industry made a big effort to minimise that.
As for killing piracy - it's a multifaceted issue - and low quality entertainment has nothing to do with it. The audience will take crap every which way - but it's simply not there as fast these days.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:17 Post subject: |
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Ok Gabe.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:17 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: | You might be unaware, being so young
But - in the past - movies and games were typically available days, weeks or even months before their official release.
These days, we need to wait for movies to become available on DVD/Bluray before they're pirated - and screeners are rare - and several games are never pirated because they have a strong online segment. For games that ARE pirated - we almost exclusively have to wait for a day or two after official release, at which point most people who're interested have already bought it. That makes piracy much less desirable/interesting than in the past.
As for music/TV - I'm not including them.
Still, I suppose we can pretend things are what they used to be - for your sake. |
oh golly gosh. lol. you're one incredible [expletive deleted]. Times have changes for the better. And pirates still do an incredible job.
back in the day it was easier to get access to something. now it isn't. there are stricter rules. stricter penalties. and you get fucked more if you do something bad. that's why back in the day you had dvd rips way in advance because you could simply walk out with it and not be searched. Now you do. and if you get away with it... you still lost your job. heck some employees at walmart or what other stories are out there in the world do help pirates get shit early. As early as a week or even two weeks in advance when the shipment comes and just sit in the back until release day. (sometimes you can get a product few days in advance. woooo. look at that)
As for games coming out after release... yeah. so? they still come out. you can thank the advance in technology for that. oh wait... pc piracy sucks because... we have online services that are required for the games. So... if it weren't for steam/origin we'd have early access to games... but steam and origin offer gamers a convenience. and it still get cracked. but legit gamers don't care. and legit gamers who pirate games also don't care. we still get free games. \o/
Same goes for music industry. if you're an editor you get access to all the tracks of an album months in advance. Heck even better sounding tracks before some idiot producer fucks it up. (i know i heard so many revisions of one song and one idiot producer changed it and it became worse and was actually sold  ) Same for music producers and radio stations. So if you don't value your career you can leak an HD copy of a movie that just hit theatres because... all you have to do is export it and put it on a drive and say goodbye to your job and your career.
All the stuff is available months in advance it's just nobody wants to ruin their lives/jobs by doing stupid shit that was "ok" years ago. Lol.
And piracy is still desiarble. it's just less and less people care about it because you have itunes with affordable music, steam sales, and legal online tv streaming. and soon VOD will become a huge hit. and we won't even have to watch cams.
Dude... you suck. 
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:19 Post subject: |
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It's always like this in any medium. It starts small and fast, later becomes huge and sluggish. Of course 12 years ago there were DVD screeners - technology was new, Internet was new and bozos at studios probably didn't even know there is such thing as a DVD drive on the PC. Nowadays, the "p2p" does most of the heavy lifting. They have sources in Bluray manufacturing plants, they release cracks before "scene" groups do. At times, scene steals from p2p also. Pace has slowed, there is much more awareness of it, but it is still very much widespread, and hardly dying. |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:20 Post subject: |
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Shhh leo... they'll know our secret.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:21 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | Casus wrote: | You might be unaware, being so young
But - in the past - movies and games were typically available days, weeks or even months before their official release.
These days, we need to wait for movies to become available on DVD/Bluray before they're pirated - and screeners are rare - and several games are never pirated because they have a strong online segment. For games that ARE pirated - we almost exclusively have to wait for a day or two after official release, at which point most people who're interested have already bought it. That makes piracy much less desirable/interesting than in the past.
As for music/TV - I'm not including them.
Still, I suppose we can pretend things are what they used to be - for your sake. |
oh golly gosh. lol. you're one incredible retard. Times have changes for the better. And pirates still do an incredible job.
back in the day it was easier to get access to something. now it isn't. there are stricter rules. stricter penalties. and you get fucked more if you do something bad. that's why back in the day you had dvd rips way in advance because you could simply walk out with it and not be searched. Now you do. and if you get away with it... you still lost your job. heck some employees at walmart or what other stories are out there in the world do help pirates get shit early. As early as a week or even two weeks in advance when the shipment comes and just sit in the back until release day. (sometimes you can get a product few days in advance. woooo. look at that)
As for games coming out after release... yeah. so? they still come out. you can thank the advance in technology for that. oh wait... pc piracy sucks because... we have online services that are required for the games. So... if it weren't for steam/origin we'd have early access to games... but steam and origin offer gamers a convenience. and it still get cracked. but legit gamers don't care. and legit gamers who pirate games also don't care. we still get free games. \o/
Same goes for music industry. if you're an editor you get access to all the tracks of an album months in advance. Heck even better sounding tracks before some idiot producer fucks it up. (i know i heard so many revisions of one song and one idiot producer changed it and it became worse and was actually sold ) Same for music producers and radio stations. So if you don't value your career you can leak an HD copy of a movie that just hit theatres because... all you have to do is export it and put it on a drive and say goodbye to your job and your career.
All the stuff is available months in advance it's just nobody wants to ruin their lives/jobs by doing stupid shit that was "ok" years ago. Lol.
And piracy is still desiarble. it's just less and less people care about it because you have itunes with affordable music, steam sales, and legal online tv streaming. and soon VOD will become a huge hit. and we won't even have to watch cams.
Dude... you suck. |
Ok, so you agree with me that piracy is less efficient and early releases are much rarer - and then you proceed to attempt to insult me every chance you get?
I never said it wasn't desirable - but that it's becoming redundant. That's obvious enough - even for you.
However, I'm kinda amused by your petty personal insults. So, I humbly ask for more.
Give it to me baby 
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:25 Post subject: |
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I can't believe you guys are biting.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:28 Post subject: |
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Hear opposing opinions, cry insults. This has also been rampant on the humps as of late.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:29 Post subject: |
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Everything gets cracked these days, scene or p2p for me is the same as long as it works. 
Even if we need a wait a bit more, it's not a big deal.
For the record, I used to buy more games back then than now. 
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:30 Post subject: |
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Let's call it opposing opinions trying to implement insults.
But that's the funny thing.
Is an insult an insult if it's not working?
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:30 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:31 Post subject: |
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Is an opposing opinion supposed to work as an insult when it is not meant to be one? 
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:33 Post subject: |
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it's not less efficient. just rules changed.
you still get your shit for free. time frame never mattered. unless you're an idiot who wanted to play max payne before everyone else. or what ever. and played it just because and never really liked it or understood why it was awesome. y'know... oldfagderp pirate everything and anything regardless of taste. and then internet has changed. it became faster and more efficient. except for the 'free' 'democratic' part of the world. so even if you got awesome early leaks... you'd still be the last to watch it and your e-penis would shrivel up and die.
yeah... less efficient. lol. it was less efficient back in the day. good copies were duped because someone rushed a poor release. asshole matches. dick sucking contests. yeah. i miss the childish days of yore. and we still use some of those 'epic' oldfag rules that just need to die out. p2p began to release quality. especially since back in the day p2p was frowned upon and laughed at. so yeah... it has evolved into something better and something more efficient and something that has balls and actually had sex more than once.
Please child... firstly you're not an oldfag. you have no clue what piracy was back in the day. oh you got a floppy disk from a friend with a colour zebra sticker on it. oooh you pirate you. Ooooh. you went to the asian market and bought a copy of a movie that just hit theatres. you paid 10 dollars for a quality shit cam (which were decent cams back in the day because again... people knew it was wrong but people still got away with it)
Mmhmm... please tell me how piracy is less efficient nowadays? Hmmm? if all you got is time frame then seriously... you need to re-evaluate your life.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Oct 2012 19:35 Post subject: |
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| Casus wrote: | | Like "oldfag" is actually a compliment, right? |
It's meant to ridicule your petty attempt at snobbery. |
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