So game journalism.
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WaldoJ
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 21:48    Post subject: So game journalism.
who's following the delightful shit storm currently happening?

what are your thoughts? I'm lolling. and a bit sad. but it's getting hardcore now.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 22:02    Post subject:
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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos



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They've edited out some journo references from the article above, real nice job euroderpers Laughing


Editor's Note wrote:
Following receipt of a complaint from Lauren Wainwright, Eurogamer has removed part of this article (but without admission of any liability). Eurogamer apologises for any distress caused to Ms Wainwright by the references to her. The article otherwise remains as originally published.


Bing cache has the original, though:
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=http%3a%2f%2fwww.eurogamer.net%2farticles%2f2012-10-24-lost-humanity-18-a-table-of-doritos&d=27022188077646630&mkt=en-GB&setlang=en-GB&w=a7eabab0,e4a2d0b9


Because quoting oneself is what cool people do Smug


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 22:14    Post subject:
full article is out there. guy lost his job. the girl is covering up her ties to se. lol. good stuff.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 22:19    Post subject:
I've also quoted the original and forbes also included the removed text in this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/10/25/video-game-journalist-robert-florence-leaves-eurogamer-after-libel-complaints/

Now I want to see some game journo blood... Twisted Evil


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 22:27    Post subject:
Honestly, it's all pathetic. The guy was absolutely correct in every way.. these journalists pander to game companies, pander to publishers and manufacturers, in order to get free stuff .. it's happened forever .. and to be called out on it suddenly means threatening to sue for libel? Pathetic.
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 22:40    Post subject:
well many game journos aren't on tv. and geoff lol what a silly canadian name is a tv celeberity. a lot of them are 'forced' to endorse shit. ms and halo and mt dew and dorittos are running a promotion for the new halo... and he was prolly paid to promote it since gametrailers is THE gaming site in the world.

I get what the article was saying but geoff is no longer a game journalist, he's a game journalist / celebrity / endorser. he's pretty much the face of gametrailers and they're ran by mtv thing (the bigger company) and they do state that they're owned by another company when they review a game that had its hands in that company. so it's all cool in my books.

no one is hating on brad pitt for promoting channel 05 Laughing even though he's totally gay for doing that.

but this bs. Neutral guy lost his job cause one girl got all upset. not to be mean or anything but that bitch is prolly on her period or she clearly is a dumb cunt. to let it go this far for a guy to lose his job... she's fucking evil stupid bitch. she's a serious bitch. like black girl on reality tv bitch. OH NO YOU DIDN'T YOU HOE! *rips hair extensions out* could've just said no it's ok let him keep his job. i overreacted the article only says that people might think i'm corrupt but im not really. it didn't imply anything. just stated a view of current game journo life. and it sort of is correct. but nope. she let a guy lose his job because she's a dumb cunt.

I really dislike her. Sad



but it's serious lol. can't wait to see where it goes. pretty much everyone out there is on the side of the guy who lost his job and people will start gunning for that slut in no time.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 22:54    Post subject:
She's pretty much fucked, IMO.

Demonstrated her stupidity and/or guilt by trying to hopelessly covering her trails but I'm sure plenty of people already backed/saved her stuff up.

I also can't wait to see euroderp's pathetic response to all of this.


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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:09    Post subject:
She's even locked her Twitter so that nobody can read her tweets. Honestly, I don't care if the White Knights around here call me sexist or chauvinistic or whatever; but she's a malicious and spiteful fucking bitch. Somebody lost his job just because she got butthurt about an something less than an INSINUATION. He didn't even accuse her of anything, nor did he state any supposed "facts" which could ever be construed as libelous, he simply stated an opinion and a concern.

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Furthermore, Lauren Wainwright may indeed have exactly the deeper conflict of interest that Florence only hinted at and suggested by using her tweet merely as an example.

Her resume, for instance, lists Square Enix as a company she has freelanced for.

Square Enix being the publisher of Tomb Raider, one of the games at the heart of this particular controversy, and a game that Wainwright has written about previously at MCV.


She's since removed the Square-Enix bit from her resume. Pathetic Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu, 25th Oct 2012 23:13    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
I've also quoted the original and forbes also included the removed text in this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/10/25/video-game-journalist-robert-florence-leaves-eurogamer-after-libel-complaints/

Good article.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 01:22    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
She's even locked her Twitter so that nobody can read her tweets. Honestly, I don't care if the White Knights around here call me sexist or chauvinistic or whatever; but she's a malicious and spiteful fucking bitch. Somebody lost his job just because she got butthurt about an something less than an INSINUATION. He didn't even accuse her of anything, nor did he state any supposed "facts" which could ever be construed as libelous, he simply stated an opinion and a concern.

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Furthermore, Lauren Wainwright may indeed have exactly the deeper conflict of interest that Florence only hinted at and suggested by using her tweet merely as an example.

Her resume, for instance, lists Square Enix as a company she has freelanced for.

Square Enix being the publisher of Tomb Raider, one of the games at the heart of this particular controversy, and a game that Wainwright has written about previously at MCV.


She's since removed the Square-Enix bit from her resume. Pathetic Rolling Eyes

Lulz doesn't the stupid bitch realize you can't really "delete" stuff that's gone public on the internet ? Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 08:14    Post subject:


inb4 those tweets magically disappear Cool Face








Also:
http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/libel-alleged-legal-threats-and-conflicts-of-interest-the-twisted-story-of-


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 09:21    Post subject:
Wait, I have no idea what this "shit storm" is about, and maybe one of the links in this thread sums it up, but which one? I want a summary! Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 10:00    Post subject:
Seems Florence is the only one of the bunch worth reading. Nothing I didn't know already though, game journalism's been dead for years Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 13:29    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
Wait, I have no idea what this "shit storm" is about, and maybe one of the links in this thread sums it up, but which one? I want a summary! Razz


THIS.


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 13:43    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
I've also quoted the original and forbes also included the removed text in this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/10/25/video-game-journalist-robert-florence-leaves-eurogamer-after-libel-complaints/

Now I want to see some game journo blood... Twisted Evil


Just read that, it explains everything.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 13:50    Post subject:
difm wrote:
_SiN_ wrote:
Wait, I have no idea what this "shit storm" is about, and maybe one of the links in this thread sums it up, but which one? I want a summary! Razz


THIS.


From what Ive gathered:
Giveaway PS3 if game journalists retweet something, many do it. Bit of angry muttering from the sidestands, one dude writes an article and adresses the issue of "funded" journalism, of which the PS3 giveaway was an example.
He named some girl in his article who was pretty much riding Square Enixes dick, she bawws at boss who bawws at eurogamer threatening with legal action, eurogamer edites the article and poor journalist who wrote the thing gets fired. Shit hits the fan from here because the public gets word of it. Now all rats are jumping the sinking ship that is "funded" game journalism.

Seriously we need a list of these people and a community guideline on who to completely ignore in the industry.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 13:55    Post subject:
Hell of a summary Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 14:08    Post subject:
Gaming "journalism" really is a joke, it has nothing to do with proper journalism.
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 14:16    Post subject:
wow... some people are just tearing into the whole situation right now. wow. it's like she's gonna lose all credibility over this. \o/


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 14:17    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
wow... some people are just tearing into the whole situation right now. wow. it's like she's gonna lose all credibility over this. \o/


Good luck trying to sue the internet for libel!

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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 14:23    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 14:23    Post subject:
Hello, I am now a gaming journalist because I know how to spell my own name, own a keyboard that might or might not be connected to a computer, have an internet connection and an opinion about a game.
HEAR ME ROAR!!!


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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 14:33    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 15:12    Post subject:
puts all those 8´s and 9´s in perspective...
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 15:43    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Seems Florence is the only one of the bunch worth reading. Nothing I didn't know already though, game journalism's been dead for years Smile

Indeed Razz
This is just the cherry on top Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 16:20    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Fri, 26th Oct 2012 17:21    Post subject:
Ragedoctor wrote:
Seriously we need a list of these people and a community guideline on who to completely ignore in the industry.


how about ignore all of them?
seriously, in the last few months the reviews / ratings have contrasted my personal
opinion on the given games´quality (whether in a positive or negative way) like never
before.
i am not a professional authority in the field or anything,
but i have played enough games over several decades to have a pretty good idea about what constitutes good game design and what doesnt.
thus, i have had a strong feeling that something is very wrong with game journalism nowadays, and this drama proves it.
fuck that shit, there is a reason we have isodemos Laughing
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