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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 06:19    Post subject: 2045
http://2045.com/
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The "2045" team is working towards creating an international research center where leading scientists will be engaged in research and development in the fields of anthropomorphic robotics, living systems modeling and brain and consciousness modeling with the goal of transferring one’s individual consciousness to an artificial carrier and achieving cybernetic immortality.


This guy says mankind (and by mankind he means billionaires only, I suppose) could achieve immortality (by transferring one's mind to a robot) by 2045. While it seems to me that it is just a (not so) elaborate scam, the concept always interested me.

Will it ever be possible to transfer the human mind, a unique consciousness, to a digital form? How would that work? You go to sleep and then wake up in a different body? Or it would be a simple clone?

Would you want to be transferred?
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 06:44    Post subject:
You can't transfer you can only copy, so you're gonna be dead anyway
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 07:00    Post subject:
i really dont know if id want that. on the one hand... rocket launcher arms and immortality! on the other... what will i lose? will i be able to feel things in the same way? it just depends on how far the technology goes i guess... and also how secure it is. once you 'become' digital, you're opening yourself up to a whole new mess of trouble.


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 07:02    Post subject:
What if you get hit by a virus that makes all your dreams into goatse or all the people's faces into goatse? or worse, what if it turns them into my face?
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 07:06    Post subject:
well thats what im saying... how secure could it be?. what if i get hacked, and everyones face that i see becomes yours, and every word they say is 'firemaster'. what good is immortality if i want to blow my cyberbrain apart after only 10 seconds?


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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 07:13    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
well thats what im saying... how secure could it be?. what if i get hacked, and everyones face that i see becomes yours, and every word they say is 'firemaster'. what good is immortality if i want to blow my cyberbrain apart after only 10 seconds?


Hahahahahahaha, see? Death has its benefits too!
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 07:39    Post subject:
Biological immortality will happen before mind transferral. 2045 might be a tad optimistic in any case. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 08:06    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 08:09    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_O68HUcHos&feature=player_detailpage#t=25s


And then he died. Cool Face
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 08:16    Post subject:
bring on the singularity
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 08:40    Post subject:
Well, I personally think that what we can imagine, we can achieve, just in due time Smile

So, yeah, there are no impossibilities.

As for the: will I feel the same way as I do now? Well that's a tough question. Since we don't really know anything about how our brain works. Are our emotions just some kind of weird chemical reaction or?

But then, why wouldn't robots feel? That is, if you made AI, or a silicon based life form, what would be so different between us and them? We are carbon based, they silicon, but we are both alive, no? Wink


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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 08:44    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Sin317 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_O68HUcHos&feature=player_detailpage#t=25s


And then he died. Cool Face


immortality != being alive.
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 08:49    Post subject:
I'll take actually living forever over being immortalized by my deeds (but still dying) any day of the week. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 08:56    Post subject:
inz wrote:
I'll take actually living forever over being immortalized by my deeds (but still dying) any day of the week. Razz

One is possible, the other is not. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Aug 2012 07:23    Post subject:
Speaking of 2045 (totally unrelated btw, so forgive me Very Happy ) the B-52 stratofortress is slated to be in service until 2045:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-52

Now how cool is that? A plane that will see almost ~100 years of service Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Aug 2012 10:45    Post subject:
even if you can copy your mind into a new body, how do you retain your id, ie. the sense of being you?
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Aug 2012 11:41    Post subject:



So I suppose this is me in a couple of years!



EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th Aug 2012 11:46    Post subject:
I've been wondering about this sometimes with relation to teleportation, assuming we will eventually be able to deconstruct one body and then reconstruct it in another place. Does the reconstruction just recreate the original as a clone with the exact same memories and personality as the original, and the individual initially deconstructed gets killed in the process ?

Or does it actually work like in the movies (although first hypothesis wouldn't infirm movies either since no one would actually be able to tell the resulting individual was not actually the same, but you get what i'm saying - same dude comes out, without getting murdered in the process Razz)
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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Aug 2012 22:50    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:



So I suppose this is me in a couple of years!



EXTERMINATE! EXTERMINATE!

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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 00:05    Post subject:
should be nice, lots of knowledge and a biomechanical dick!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 17th Aug 2012 02:02    Post subject:


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