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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2012 15:03    Post subject: [XBOX360] 50hz/60hz
I have a PAL xbox360 and using it only with VGA cable on the same pc monitor as my pc with res set yo 1680x1050.

The lil bulb just lightened in my mind Laughing

It is supposed to be set to 50hz by default right, since it's european? But 60 should be better yes?
The option is not there with VGA cable, but would the options stck if I connected it to a TV with sd stock cable, changed to 60hz (if it is not already) and go back to vga?


Or is 50hz better for some weird retarded reason ?
Does all of it have anyyhing to do with performance ?


oh btw. I found it out, when searching about Dead Rising1 terrible no vsync. I am replaying it and screen TEARS apart like crazy on my monitor

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2012 15:12    Post subject:
The option won't be there on the VGA cable because it's locked at 60Hz when using VGA. You'll only get the 50Hz option (which is useless anyway unless you're playing most EU Xbox Classics which require 50Hz) when using the standard TV cable. Just leave it at 60Hz default when playing on the TV Smile
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2012 15:21    Post subject:
thanks !

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2012 15:25    Post subject:
Oh and there's no performance drop at 60Hz either (quite the opposite, if you play 60Hz games at 50Hz you'll lose performance and have other issues) it's been a long time since any 360 titles were actually made with 50Hz in mind. A handful of launch titles were 50Hz but then games started coming out that required 60Hz and it just went from there -- and you can still play 50Hz titles when 60Hz is set -- just be warned; most EU Xbox Classics won't work on the VGA cable due to the fact that they don't support 60Hz, you'll get an error message telling you that you need to play over HDMI or Composite. Which is another thing; why use VGA on your PC monitor? 1680 native res? No HDMI? Same here Sad I just wish Sony would stop being so friggin' archaic and get with the program like Microsoft did. I have to run my PS3 on my TV since my monitor doesn't support 720/1080 and looks like shit when the PS3 forces the resolution change Mad
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2012 15:29    Post subject:
Yes. My 226bw 22" samsung have only dvi and vga. Dvi is coming to pc so vga is left for xbox.

It is 1680x1050 but thankfully 360 supports that res and nothing is stretched. There are just black 16:9 bars at the top and bottom


ps3 doesnt do that? I was still considering buyiing it sometime. Just for killzone, mgs, uncharted, god of war and shadow of the colossus

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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2012 15:35    Post subject:
Aye, the 360 has its own internal scaler (the Xenos itself) and over VGA supports 16:10 PC resolutions, it's an awesome feature of the 360 and means I play it on my PC monitor quite happily. Sadly Sony doesn't offer the same, it's just TV resolutions; 480/576/720/1080 Mad Mad Mad It would be okay if I had a FullHD monitor, one that supported 720/1080, or at least had its own internal scaler but egh.. oh well Sad
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2012 15:36    Post subject:
Here's a summary on this subject. 50Hz is shitty garbage, 60Hz is good (mostly everyone who started gaming in psx/ps2 era knows this)
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readonly




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2012 22:51    Post subject:
Should get some sort of KVM (minus the K and M) for the DVI port and use an HDMI to DVI cable for ur 360.
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Jul 2012 22:52    Post subject:
readonly wrote:
Should get some sort of KVM (minus the K and M) for the DVI port and use an HDMI to DVI cable for ur 360.

I've also got that cable and tested xbox360 connected to 226bw via vga or hdmi->dvi and acually hdmi looks worse.

Sharpness is the same but dvi had slightly flickering shades of grey in games like gears of war

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