CDP sues W2 pirates. Update: listen to community and stop
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:23    Post subject: CDP sues W2 pirates. Update: listen to community and stop
http://torrentfreak.com/drm-free-witcher-2-cashes-in-on-bittorrent-pirates-111207/

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However, for CD Projekt this is not necessarily a bad thing as they had plans all along to cash in on piracy.

“Yes we will track illegal file-sharing hoping people will find the game good enough to actually change their mind and be willing to pay for it,” CD Projekt’s Agnieszka Szostak told us earlier.

Although this initially sounded quite reasonable, away from the spotlight the company followed in the footsteps of so-called copyright trolls, by signing up for a so-called “pay-up-or-else” scheme. CD Projekt hired a law firm and torrent monitoring company to track those who illegally downloaded and shared the game, and has been sending them hefty cash settlement proposals.

The price CD Projekt is asking through their lawyers is slightly higher than what gamers have to pay in stores, to say the least. Over the past several months thousands of alleged BitTorrent users in Germany were asked to cough up 911,80 euros ($1230) to pay off their apparent debt to the company.

As is often the case, these mass settlement schemes do not exist without collateral damage. Aside from targeting many people who indeed downloaded and shared the game without paying, CD Projekt’s lawyers are also wrongfully accusing people who have never even heard of the game.

After all, an IP-address doesn’t identify a person, and Wi-Fi piggybacking is not unusual. But CD Projekt, who don’t want to bug legitimate consumers with DRM, apparently take this collateral damage for granted.

The company, however, is no stranger to the business model which a US federal judge recently described as a shakedown. In 2008, large numbers of Internet users started receiving letters from notorious file-sharing lawyers Davenport Lyons in the UK demanding cash settlements. Among those letters were demands for payment on an Atari-published game with a familiar title – The Witcher.

At the time the actions were widely criticized in the UK by consumer rights groups and the media, mainly because of the many wrongful accusations. Despite this critique, CD Projekt continues to pursue BitTorrent users in Germany, probably because it earns them good money.


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Areius




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:30    Post subject:
Only noobs use torrent.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:32    Post subject:
But torrents are free, usenet is not - ergo the former is more true to the spirit of plunderin' on the seven digital seas. Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:33    Post subject:
inz wrote:
But torrents are free, usenet is not - ergo the former is more true to the spirit of plunderin' on the seven digital seas. Razz


Not at all, had to buy yourself a ship first, and find a crew!
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:37    Post subject:
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Areius




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:37    Post subject:
inz wrote:
But torrents are free, usenet is not - ergo the former is more true to the spirit of plunderin' on the seven digital seas. Razz
There is more besides usenet you know Wink Oh, and I'm not talking about Kazaa and RapidShare etc
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:39    Post subject:
fuck them i say.

(im one of the few here who never liked the witcher, 1 or 2 , Smile )
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Areius wrote:
There is more besides usenet you know Wink Oh, and I'm not talking about Kazaa and RapidShare etc


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:43    Post subject:
This shit happens all the time in my country. Why is this news?
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:47    Post subject:
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:48    Post subject:
pillermann wrote:
This shit happens all the time in my country. Why is this news?


1) What's your country?
2) Do people pay or they respond "nope, wasn't me, fuck off"? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:48    Post subject:
Areius wrote:
inz wrote:
But torrents are free, usenet is not - ergo the former is more true to the spirit of plunderin' on the seven digital seas. Razz
There is more besides usenet you know Wink Oh, and I'm not talking about Kazaa and RapidShare etc


Robbing people at gunpoint?
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 14:50    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
pillermann wrote:
This shit happens all the time in my country. Why is this news?


1) What's your country?
2) Do people pay or they respond "nope, wasn't me, fuck off"? Very Happy


1. Germany
2. Depends. Some ignore it, some take a lawyer to negotiate the fine, but many pay up. Which is why this is so profitable for publishers.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:07    Post subject:
hahah yea Germany, hence why my dad always gives me the usb hdd with a list of things to download Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:12    Post subject:
Good luck with that. Reaction
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:28    Post subject:
I will never understand how blackmail such as this can be legal.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:30    Post subject:
What a stupid move, they won't achieve anything useful with this. Paradoxically, it even contributes to damage their image..
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:39    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
I will never understand how blackmail such as this can be legal.

actually, it isn't. or rather, you can get out of that spot pretty easily if they caught you. followed the threadnoughts on the gulli forum (major german pirate and ex-warez board) back then when that sort of shakedown was all the rage in the games industry - in the end, the genereal consensus was sending them a juridical correct "fuck off" letter and no one doing that was ever bothered again.

anyway, torrents--> Laughing people who are too fucking stupid for "proper" pirating kinda deserve it
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:49    Post subject:
BearishSun wrote:
Areius wrote:
inz wrote:
But torrents are free, usenet is not - ergo the former is more true to the spirit of plunderin' on the seven digital seas. Razz
There is more besides usenet you know Wink Oh, and I'm not talking about Kazaa and RapidShare etc


Robbing people at gunpoint?
Almost Razz Nah, FTP works fine Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:51    Post subject:
bushwacka wrote:
anyway, torrents--> Laughing people who are too fucking stupid for "proper" pirating kinda deserve it


I use private tracker, and its as good as usenet


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:55    Post subject:
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I use private tracker, and its as good as usenet


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:55    Post subject:
Better yet for me. Since I got access to a private tracker I haven't used usenet. I like that it's more organized, among other things.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 15:56    Post subject:
Used to stick to private trackers, but having to seed everything was a major pain with my slow-ass upload.

Been using Usenet for the past year or two, works great.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 16:01    Post subject:
yeah private trackers are great, especially for rare stuff you couldn't get anywhere else. i still miss my BCG account Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 16:09    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Used to stick to private trackers, but having to seed everything was a major pain with my slow-ass upload.

Been using Usenet for the past year or two, works great.

There is "cheat" for that: if you use utorrent 1.6 you can delete the tracker url from the torrent after you connected to some seeds. The client doesn't know where to send your download stats and on the tracker page it shows as 0 bytes downloaded. Laughing
Works always for me.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 16:12    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Used to stick to private trackers, but having to seed everything was a major pain with my slow-ass upload.

Been using Usenet for the past year or two, works great.


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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 16:17    Post subject:
What the fuck happened with them? Oo
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Garus, have you ratted us out? Polak bastard.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 16:33    Post subject:
xExtreme wrote:
What the fuck happened with them? Oo

Lawyers happened. I imagine it goes like this:

CDPR: Damn. We sold 1mil+ copies but a gazillion people downloaded our gaem. We're losing money!
Goldstein & partners: Oy vey! But we have a solution for you! We will threaten p2p users with lawsuits and scare them into paying fines. Even if only a fraction of them pay up that's millions of dolari we split 50/50!
CDPR: WHere do we sign?! Very Happy

And the practice is legal, at least in Germany. After all you are breaking copyright law by torrenting stuff. But the law limits the fine and lawyer costs in minor, private cases to 100€. But they often demand 10 times as much, which is what makes it so outrageous.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Dec 2011 16:35    Post subject:
Yes, I'm sure it's the lawyers fooling the poor naive developers into this.
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