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dingo_d
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 22:00    Post subject: When you 'know' too much...
So dad's friend brought some old laptop, and said that I see if it can be fixed, because it's broken.

Ok, since everything was working (disk and the fan), but there was a black screen, I thought, ok, maybe it's the screen. So I plugged it in my monitor. Nothing.

Hmm ok, let's take it apart and see what's underneath. So I disassemble the whole thing, and leave just the memory and the disk, and again, plug it in (who knows, maybe there was some short circuit with keyboard, or some other line). Nothing...

Ok, but, what's this blue light next to the caps lock that seems to be blinking in strange intervals?

Oh there are codes when your notebook is broken....

...

...

AND I JUST TOOK THE WHOLE THING APART!! -.-"


It appears that the PCB is dead (5 blinks). Dad's friend said that I try and sell it for pieces. Disk works (I plugged it in my comp), memory can be sold, and the screen seems to be working...


Sometimes knowing things can totally cloud the simple things and solutions...

I remember when the doorman at my uni gave a simple puzzle to me and my friends. And we all started to think about integrals, geometric series... Needles to say the answer to the problem was just a simple multiplication.
But that never came to our mind. As you start to know more and more you start to complicate even the simplest things...

Funny, eh? Very Happy


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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 22:05    Post subject:
You could also have made us a nice video with an African knife. Very Happy


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You could also have made us a nice video with an African knife. Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 19:20    Post subject: Re: When you 'know' too much...
dingo_d wrote:
Sometimes knowing things can totally cloud the simple things and solutions...

I remember when the doorman at my uni gave a simple puzzle to me and my friends. And we all started to think about integrals, geometric series... Needles to say the answer to the problem was just a simple multiplication.
But that never came to our mind. As you start to know more and more you start to complicate even the simplest things...

Funny, eh? Very Happy


So true Laughing
Hard to see the obvious when we are looking beyond it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 19:21    Post subject: Re: When you 'know' too much...
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 19:23    Post subject: Re: When you 'know' too much...
garus wrote:
Invasor wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
Sometimes knowing things can totally cloud the simple things and solutions...

I remember when the doorman at my uni gave a simple puzzle to me and my friends. And we all started to think about integrals, geometric series... Needles to say the answer to the problem was just a simple multiplication.
But that never came to our mind. As you start to know more and more you start to complicate even the simplest things...

Funny, eh? Very Happy


So true Laughing
Hard to see the obvious when we are looking beyond it.


Exactly. Ban higher math in schools!


Yeah!


Oh, wait... o.o


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 19:25    Post subject: Re: When you 'know' too much...
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 19:27    Post subject:
Yeah, the oatmeal has great comics Very Happy


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 19:35    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 19:36    Post subject:
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That's true. I never ever had to use higher math outside of classes. All thoses classes wasted so much time of mine it makes me angry.


Well I use way more higher math these days, so I can't say that learning that was useless Very Happy xD


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 19:40    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 21:12    Post subject:
garus wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
garus wrote:
That's true. I never ever had to use higher math outside of classes. All thoses classes wasted so much time of mine it makes me angry.


Well I use way more higher math these days, so I can't say that learning that was useless Very Happy xD


Do you use it at work or do you use it for calculating probability of getting cancer by eating a burger? Razz


If by work you mean my studies, then most certainly Very Happy

And you can't do physics without math so Neutral


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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 21:55    Post subject:
Almighty dingo_d. Teach me fourier transforms :[

Mah brains are about to blow the fuck up from this ^_^


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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 22:32    Post subject:
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Almighty dingo_d. Teach me fourier transforms :[

Mah brains are about to blow the fuck up from this ^_^


You serious? Very Happy

Because I could go on and on and on Very Happy

One professor from MIT said: If you can't do a Fourier transform of sth it's not real math xD

If you need any help just PM me Smile


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 22:33    Post subject: Re: When you 'know' too much...
dingo_d wrote:
I remember when the doorman at my uni gave a simple puzzle to me and my friends.

What was it?
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Oct 2011 22:54    Post subject: Re: When you 'know' too much...
human_steel wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
I remember when the doorman at my uni gave a simple puzzle to me and my friends.

What was it?


Something with two trains going towards each other and a bug iirc... It was really simple actually, but we all started to complicate it.


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson
chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 15:15    Post subject:
dingo_d for president!

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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 17:19    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
besthijacker wrote:
Almighty dingo_d. Teach me fourier transforms :[

Mah brains are about to blow the fuck up from this ^_^


You serious? Very Happy

Because I could go on and on and on Very Happy

One professor from MIT said: If you can't do a Fourier transform of sth it's not real math xD

If you need any help just PM me Smile


No make a topic instead. Some of us like to read that stuff or comment.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 17:23    Post subject:
Yeah would be interested as well. Recently encountered FFT for prime search purposes and although I have had a bit of education in FT, to try to understand the higher math almost 20 years later again, is not that easy.


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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 17:25    Post subject:
I had an exam that I got 0/100 on. I scan it and sent a copy to him.
He solved all the answers AND wrote explanations on how to do each question.

Plus he gave me few cool links on fourier transform and cauchy reside theorem to read about it!


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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 17:46    Post subject:
I can't even remember why FT works :/
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 18:50    Post subject:
Atropa wrote:
I can't even remember why FT works :/


Because it does! grinhurt

J/k

math behind FT is not that trivial, so to try to explain it in layman terms would be rather interesting Very Happy

EDIT: Oh and I fully support besthijackers idea about me as president.

I won't let you down! And you'll all get free healthcare, dingocare!

*dingocare healthcare is basically you getting eaten by dingos xD*


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 19:18    Post subject: Re: When you 'know' too much...
dingo_d wrote:
human_steel wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
I remember when the doorman at my uni gave a simple puzzle to me and my friends.

What was it?


Something with two trains going towards each other and a bug iirc... It was really simple actually, but we all started to complicate it.

But what was it exactly?
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 19:56    Post subject: Re: When you 'know' too much...
human_steel wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
human_steel wrote:

What was it?


Something with two trains going towards each other and a bug iirc... It was really simple actually, but we all started to complicate it.

But what was it exactly?


I think it was sth like this:

Two trains are like 200 km apart and leave the station at the same time with the same speed of 50 km/h, and a bug going 100 km/h is in the middle and starts to go towards one train. And the question is what will be the length of the traveled path of the bug before the trains meet?

I think it's that, if I haven't forgot sth...

Oh and you assume no friction, and perfect 'elastic' scattering of the bug from the train Laughing You know, your ACME conditions Very Happy


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 20:37    Post subject:
Two trains. Leaving two 200km-apart stations at the same time. Going towards each other. Velocity of both is 50km/h. A bug right in the middle heading the direction of one of the trains (doesn't matter which one) at 100 km/h. Isn't it asked the traveled distance of the bug right at the time they meet?
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Two trains. Leaving two 200km-apart stations at the same time. Going towards each other. Velocity of both is 50km/h. A bug right in the middle heading the direction of one of the trains (doesn't matter which one) at 100 km/h. Isn't it asked the traveled distance of the bug right at the time they meet?


Well yeah. What is the distance traveled by the bug, until the trains meet. So the bug goes from one to another and so forth until they meet...


"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson
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thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.

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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 21:56    Post subject:
200km?
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 22:04    Post subject:
nah train speed 50 km/h, bug speed 100 km/h, so they travel to each other at 150 km/h in total
100 km is the distance, 2/3 * 100 km distance = ...

Edit: This only works with Newton speeds. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Oct 2011 22:08    Post subject:
The trains will meet in exactly 2 hours. So, the fly will have flown in the air for exactly 2 hours as well by then. Its speed is 100km/h. So, its traveled distance will be 200 km. Laughing
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