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AMD HD 7000 delayed to 2012
Besides the launch of AMD Bulldozer and Intel Sandy Bridge-E we are eagerly awaiting the first graphics cards with GPUs built on the new 28nm node. NVIDIA has already confirmed that its first graphics cards built on 28nm will come in 2012 and we can now confirm that the same applies to AMD. The reason is because the HD 6000 series is still in high demand.
The new cards from AMD and NVIDIA at 28nm are anticipated by many, but none of the companies are near to release cards. NVIDIA has confirmed that it will not launch any products on 28nm this year, but wait until early 2012.
We have now acquired information that says the same about AMD. The launch has been moved from 2011 to 2012 due to high demand for the HD 6000 series, and capacity problems. AMD has been having capacity problems over the last months for HD 6000, which has led to orders from OEM manufacturers and distribution channels have been stacking up. It also says that the HD 6000 series is hardly a year old and there is no rush to introduce the HD 7000 at the present day.
While what AMD has told us may be true, other ources contradict at least the point of high demand. The HD 6000 series is not selling as well as AMD would like us to believe. This has resulted in low store stocks, but there is more to it. We know that TSMC will manufacture GPUs for both AMD and NVIDIA, and the large capacity problems there have lowered the expectations to 7-10,000 wafers based on 28nm this year.
No matter, we know that the launch of the HD 7000 series and the first GPUs on 28nm from AMD will not happen in 2011, but we are waiting for early 2012.[/quote]
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/71-graphics/44180-amd-hd-7000-delayed-to-2012.html
The 6900-series was released in December 2010 so I can sort of understand the reasoning, but it sure is a disappointment nevertheless. I'm deadly curious about the new architecture in the performance-class Southern Island GPU's.
But I guess it makes sense to release Southern Islands closer to Kepler. We'll see.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2011 09:20 Post subject: |
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The current generation of cards is still in high demand because they still handle the console ports extremely well. No point in next generation...as it is right now, hardly any game uses the power of modern PC (and there are exceptions of course).
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2011 10:31 Post subject: |
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Especially since a lot of people these days are also getting into multi GPU setups instead of paying $500 for a single card upgrade.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2011 13:12 Post subject: |
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I dont mind waiting, not planning to upgrade GPU till around June next year.
The Q is now, AMD or Nvidia for the new series..
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2011 13:13 Post subject: |
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Knew it from a light-year distance away.
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| Posted: Sat, 1st Oct 2011 13:35 Post subject: |
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It's not confirmed by anyone yet. Nordic are just basing that off the reports that Llano and Barts are having production issues. What they fail to mention is that Llano, Barts/Cayman and SI are all three entirely different processes - not to mention the fact that it's different nodes.
We still know nothing 
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| Posted: Sun, 2nd Oct 2011 13:52 Post subject: |
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On a sidenote, this is about as "solid" as the rumours about NVIDIA doing a bottom-up schedule are. That would mean NVIDIA won't bring out its GF110 replacement until Q3/Q4 *next* year.
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2011 10:37 Post subject: |
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In before someone else posts it: references to 610M and 630M found in NVIDIA drivers. That would support a bottom-up approach. Just a shame that it's the extremely low end mobile parts, which are rebrands 
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2011 11:34 Post subject: |
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I doubt I'll have to upgrade my HD5850, which is already old, in the next two years. A new gen every so often is no longer necessary for gamers since the HW is there but SW isn't up to it.
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2011 12:19 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | I doubt I'll have to upgrade my HD5850, which is already old, in the next two years. A new gen every so often is no longer necessary for gamers since the HW is there but SW isn't up to it. |
Heck, only few months I bought a 5850 (light sapphire version) and it's such a champ in all the new games.
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2011 12:34 Post subject: |
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Well, im defo going to upgrade next year, my gpu is holding my cpu back 
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| Posted: Thu, 6th Oct 2011 13:04 Post subject: |
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Damn it if they don't release it in Q1 I'll kill someone.
My games run fine and I believe they will continue doing so but CUDA 1.3 is killing me. And with C++ AMP announced I'm even in a larger bind to buy a current gen card...but who knows what will kepler bring in that area and I don't want to upgrade AGAIN next year.
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My point is that PhysX is not more widely spread. Neither is used anywhere near as much as Havok is. Difference is that Bullet has the potential to spread than PhysX due to its open nature. I've not seen anything about Havok FX (their version of GPU accelerated physics) in ages, so it's safe to assume that that's dead (thanks Intel  ). Not to mention the difference in how they can be used, as PhysX isn't even capable of accelerating most of what it does on the GPU (rigid body collision were all CPU last I checked, only the gimmicky shit is GPU accelerated).
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Oct 2011 17:16 Post subject: |
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From what I've picked up, the first HD7000-cards coming out are VLIW4-GPU's, ie. low-midrange & mobile GPU's evolved from Barts & Cayman. The proper Southern Islands architecture using MIMD instruction set, which is the performance and enthusiast parts, won't show up until 2012. Your article says it's unknown whether it's the lower end parts that will arrive before 2012 or not.
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Thats why they say "might still be"
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Oct 2011 18:03 Post subject: |
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they are gonna go the 4770 road again it seems , which is a good idea
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Oct 2011 18:51 Post subject: |
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HWI are like Nordic Hardware, picking up on rumours and posting it as news a week after most of the tech forums have already discussed them and thrown them aside
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