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Sin317
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 Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 12:47 Post subject: jesse ventura conspiracy theory |
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anyone watch this ? i was a bit skeptic at first, but he really gets into the shit, trying to find the truth. (jesse Ventura is an ex-navy seal, ex-wrestler and ex-governor).
He gets into a lot of controversial topics, like 9/11, Kennedy etc. he doesn't necessary finds a conclusive answer, but he sure raises a lot of questions while doing so.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 14:49 Post subject: |
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What's contraversial about 9/11? It's obvious what's been done and with what purpose. America is not the first empire in history to sacrify its people in order to have an excuse for further conquering, and it certainly won't be the last.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 15:20 Post subject: |
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| Guy_Incognito wrote: | | What's contraversial about 9/11? It's obvious what's been done and with what purpose. America is not the first empire in history to sacrify its people in order to have an excuse for further conquering, and it certainly won't be the last. |
like Germany WWII Gleiwitz incident |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 15:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 18:17 Post subject: |
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Hahaha! In the now immortal words of Barack Obama: Go on...
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 18:41 Post subject: |
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the JFK one was a good ep with actual facts and info, but its a shame how cheesy they make that show so if i didnt know anything about JFK i would call the whole show a sham.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 23:18 Post subject: |
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| Hfric wrote: | | Guy_Incognito wrote: | | What's contraversial about 9/11? It's obvious what's been done and with what purpose. America is not the first empire in history to sacrify its people in order to have an excuse for further conquering, and it certainly won't be the last. |
like Germany WWII Gleiwitz incident |
don't you mean the "kristallnacht" incident aka the burning of the Reichstag blamed on a communist ?
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 23:23 Post subject: |
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9/11 im sure wasnt planned and executed by the US gov, not that i dont think they could or would, it just came as a good time and the real question is how much did they know before hand ....
though its not the first time it would have been the case. USS Liberty and Gulf of Tonkin come to mind.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 23:35 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | Hfric wrote: | | Guy_Incognito wrote: | | What's contraversial about 9/11? It's obvious what's been done and with what purpose. America is not the first empire in history to sacrify its people in order to have an excuse for further conquering, and it certainly won't be the last. |
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don't you mean the "kristallnacht" incident aka the burning of the Reichstag blamed on a communist ? |
I think he means the false-attack by German soldiers dressed as Polish ones, that was used as cassus belli against Poland. But unlike 9/11, that shit was proven. 
My favorite argument against those who still insist (every other argument has been shot down by a million other people in a much better fashion than I ever could), is Bush's reaction when he heard the news.
Let's, for a second, entertain the notion that it was a false-flag attack, hell even just the notion that they knew about it in advance and let it happen. What would you do in Bush's place? Spring to your feet, start issuing orders to your staff, and look like a competent leader who the people can look up to? Or do you stay in the chair, holding that children's book, having a "holyshitholyshitholyshit" expression on your face, crapping your pants and looking stupid and incompetent?
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Dec 2012 23:39 Post subject: |
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| zmed wrote: | | Let's, for a second, entertain the notion that it was a false-flag attack, hell even just the notion that they knew about it in advance and let it happen. What would you do in Bush's place? Spring to your feet, start issuing orders to your staff, and look like a competent leader who the people can look up to? Or do you stay in the chair, holding that children's book, having a "holyshitholyshitholyshit" expression on your face, crapping your pants and looking stupid and incompetent? |
well he smoked weed on daily basis, probably was stoned as fuck  |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2012 00:14 Post subject: |
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about 9/11 :
4/4 black boxes "vanished" but they find PAPER passports and other crap.
WTC 7 destroyed by a couple fires, no impact or anything.
NORAD staying down.
etc etc
there is just too much crap going on, that makes me thing it was something else, then what they make us believe.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2012 00:28 Post subject: |
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9/11 was obviously a conspiracy. That is the official story.
It's just that the conspirators were Arabs.
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Great show! Already have it setup in slick beard..Jesse tells it like it is..great wrestler, great governor. He got me believing.the episode about Plum Island was great..Making humans and animals combined..
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guy used to be a badass, but i saw one episode of this, and its like hes just slumming it. i actually felt embarassed for him, the ep i saw he sounded like a total crackpot.
i just want him to chuck all this bullshit in and go be in expendables 3.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Dec 2012 00:55 Post subject: |
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| todd72173 wrote: | | Great show! Already have it setup in slick beard..Jesse tells it like it is..great wrestler, great governor. He got me believing.the episode about Plum Island was great..Making humans and animals combined.. |
Actual proof that television IS dumbing down the people
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| Posted: Tue, 18th Dec 2012 16:01 Post subject: |
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watching the plum island one now.. feels very... showy/historychannel so far lol, even the trailer like narrator lol
we go investigate a conspiracy theory AND FIND AN EVEN BIGGER CONSPRIACY THEORY ZOMGORS
edit: turned it off at 5 minutes. hate these zomgeverythinghastobeoverthetop flockumentary's
Anyone know any actual proper documentary's about that plum island, or maybe Shirō Ishii/unit731 ?
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I watch it, but i dislike the show and how it is setup. It doesn't really go deep into the subjects and just leaves you with more questions then you already had...
However, it's fun to watch something about these topics, even if it's shit like this 
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He ain't got time to bleed, you know?
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