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jippyuk
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 Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 10:03 Post subject: Iphone / ipad support |
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Hi guys.
Probably been brought up before couldnt find reference if so, however one of things i always like to do is read up on the forums from my iphone etc when im not at my pc...
However its pretty difficult to navigate on the iphone.
There are several board readers out there on the appstore like "forums" and "tapatalk" which have a small file you upload onto the forum part of the website which converts the forums in a viewable format on the iphone through these readers... Not sure if you guys are dead against something like that but it would be really useful for some of the more regular readers (me) to be able to read the forum posts and reply easily whilst out and about.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 11:27 Post subject: |
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It has been discussed. The forum would need to be upgraded (which it wont, because it is mainly custom written code and runs well). Get better hardware.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 11:35 Post subject: |
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Erm, it works fine on both an ASUS EEE Transformer as well as my HTC Desire. What exactly is so hard to navigate?
The only thing that MIGHT go wrong is the viewport scaling, because Safari fucks that up, but I can provide a little bit of JS to fix that.
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jippyuk
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Aug 2011 11:41 Post subject: |
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Not that its super hard to navigate but text size is annoyingly small as safari tries to fit everything in so a lot of zooming in and zooming out.
With the apps available which i use on a few other sites, it basically just takes the post and opens it like big text as opposed to it being displayed as a website through safari...
http://www.tapatalk.com/ is the one i use a lot.
Like Lutz says if its all customized this site I guess there isnt much that can be done :S app above says its compatibile with most of the forums types out there these days but I guess even if implemented it would be messy if this has all been changed around a lot by mods
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Aug 2011 17:02 Post subject: |
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lol @ paint skillz 
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[mrt]
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 14:04 Post subject: |
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I dont mean to be captain caveman here, but i'm all for it. I'd implement it but i have no suitable hardware to adopt it on. I'm still stuck with pre-smart dumb-phones and such. So unless that changes i dont think there will be support anytime soon.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 14:22 Post subject: |
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mrt, fat chance but do you perhaps own a Mac? If so, you need no smartphone, you can develop an iPhone/iPad app with Xcode and the built-in emulator.
For Android, you don't even need a Mac, you can develop in Windows and use the Android emulator.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 14:38 Post subject: |
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[mrt]
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 14:48 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | mrt, fat chance but do you perhaps own a Mac? If so, you need no smartphone, you can develop an iPhone/iPad app with Xcode and the built-in emulator.
For Android, you don't even need a Mac, you can develop in Windows and use the Android emulator. |
All the mac I own is a BigMac, so yea, stop talking nonsense 
The android emu can be a tiny beacon of hope, but from my experience there are huge differences between an emulator and a real in-your-sweaty-palms hardware..especially for webpages.
Anyone throwing their android into a trashcan? I'd happily make you throw it into mine
Any other ideas?
| Interinactive wrote: | It could easilly have a responsive style applied to it
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Yeah, basically we need a design suited for touchy-touchy phones. All good and well, but it entails some prerequisites I dont have atm..except the BigMac
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 14:53 Post subject: |
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The problem is that most of the site is fixed-size mrt 
Tapatalk gets around that by basically just providing an API to the underlying forum software. Developing a proper standalone app wouldn't be hard - developing the API would be.
If you want, I'll have a fiddle and make some separate JS and CSS files for mobile platforms. Luckily, they're quite easy to detect and work with and me and my colleagues already got most of this ready
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[mrt]
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 15:01 Post subject: |
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I'd rather have a crack at the API. Since it's support is the most wide-spread, I'd take a gamble with that. Than afterwards we should focus on a phone-fit layout and design.
Werelds, I can't give you a solid answer tho, because I dont want to send you down a silly goosechase riddled with pains of CSS and JS for nothing. I'll whistle my way out of this one.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 15:13 Post subject: |
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What changes are needed in JS?
I think only CSS + minor layout changes should be enough to make increase usability tenfold on mobile devices.
And testing mobile layout can be as simple as resizing your Firefox and changing useragent string.
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[mrt]
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 18:41 Post subject: |
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On my iphone4 the only pain in the ass is that the zoom resets when I navigate. Besides that it looks fine (but then again I'm used to fiddling around with websites on winmo 6.5!)
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 19:32 Post subject: |
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mrt, stuff the snippet below just before </body>, should fix some zoom/scaling issues on the iPhones.
| Quote: | (function(doc) {
var addEvent = 'addEventListener',
type = 'gesturestart',
qsa = 'querySelectorAll',
scales = [1, 1],
meta = qsa in doc ? doc[qsa]('meta[name=viewport]') : [];
function fix() {
meta.content = 'width=device-width,minimum-scale=' + scales[0] + ',maximum-scale=' + scales[1];
doc.removeEventListener(type, fix, true);
}
if ((meta = meta[meta.length - 1]) && addEvent in doc) {
fix();
scales = [.25, 1.6];
doc[addEvent](type, fix, true);
}
}(document)); |
@ Leo: some JS will always be needed to get around some problems. In some cases there are hacks to apply within CSS, but not always
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 20:40 Post subject: |
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Well I am proponent of HTML+CSS only, so if there is proper planning, JS (for styling sake) is unnecessary.  Unless you have to deal with IE6-7-8.
How will your script addition cope with large images?
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 20:57 Post subject: |
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garus
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Aug 2011 21:31 Post subject: |
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Werelds
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garus
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Aug 2011 11:34 Post subject: |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Aug 2011 11:55 Post subject: |
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hahahaha, awesome. Next time i ll answer: "no way, only if you give mrt an android phone to dev on it"
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[mrt]
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Aug 2011 21:16 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Aug 2011 21:34 Post subject: |
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It always worked fine on my Android 
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Aug 2011 21:42 Post subject: |
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Sorry mrt, you need to wrap that in <script type="javascript"></script> obviously 
On a more serious note, I'm due for contract renewal somewhere in the next couple of months, so I might just get myself a new phone. If I do, I'll send you my Desire, don't think I can still sell it for a good amount so
Also, once my job calms down a bit I'll have a look at the hump's CSS and markup, see what we can do to make it even better. I'm just completely swamped right now, 50 grand total in the three projects I'm working on, quite an important source of income
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Aug 2011 21:49 Post subject: |
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May I ask what your next phone will be? The desire must've scared you from android I suppose
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 14th Aug 2011 22:01 Post subject: |
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Oh yes it did, because it is really fucking slow and shit and infested with malware and buggy and ...
I'll be sticking to Android, I'm loving what Google are doing and they just keep getting better. Also, I still don't fancy paying 10 EUR/month extra just for an iPhone 4; without even taking my "loyal customer" discount into account (got Vodafone, been with them for about 7 years now I think, no reception problems in any country so far), something like a Sensation I can get for 30/month at no extra charge - iPhone 4 16GB is 40/month with 150 for the phone, while both have the exact same minute/data limits. Fucking ridiculous
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[mrt]
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