Windows Vista Service Pack 1 RC installed on nongenuine?
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riahc3




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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 14:19    Post subject: Windows Vista Service Pack 1 RC installed on nongenuine?
Hey

Im wondering if Windows Vista Service Pack 1 RC can be installed on nongenuine versions of Windows Vista?
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 15:04    Post subject:
It certainly can be installed on non-genuine OS but after that you may have nag screens if it doesn't detect your OS as genuine, dunno yet if the OEM emulated bios cracked versions will fall in this category. I would wait for the final version release.
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 18:09    Post subject:
appartently the full (rtm) sp1 will ask you to enter the coa sticker serial number if you have an oem bios installed, not sure how accurate that info is.


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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 21:51    Post subject:
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We currently see two primary types of exploits pirates often use to generate counterfeit versions of Windows Vista. One is known as the OEM Bios exploit, which involves modifying system files and the BIOS of the motherboard to mimic a type of product activation performed on copies of Windows that are pre-installed by OEMs in the factory. Another is called the Grace Timer exploit. This exploit attempts to reset the “grace time” limit between installation and activation to something like the year 2099 in some cases. Implementing exploits involves extreme alterations to key system components and can seriously affect system stability.

So we are taking action. SP1 will include updates that will target those exploits and disable them.
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 00:08    Post subject:
dangerouseddy wrote:
appartently the full (rtm) sp1 will ask you to enter the coa sticker serial number if you have an oem bios installed, not sure how accurate that info is.


and if u have the retail? u have to put in ur key code again?


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 00:14    Post subject:
exitjen wrote:
dangerouseddy wrote:
appartently the full (rtm) sp1 will ask you to enter the coa sticker serial number if you have an oem bios installed, not sure how accurate that info is.


and if u have the retail? u have to put in ur key code again?


good thing they don't charge u for beta testing Laughing
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dangerouseddy




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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 03:00    Post subject:
exitjen wrote:
dangerouseddy wrote:
appartently the full (rtm) sp1 will ask you to enter the coa sticker serial number if you have an oem bios installed, not sure how accurate that info is.


and if u have the retail? u have to put in ur key code again?



no i think it only applys to oem versions of vista (legit or not), i dont think retail copys are affected.


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Dec 2007 04:15    Post subject:
did you read this "Windows Vista SP1 RC will no longer operate after June 30, 2008 and should be uninstalled prior to that date. After installation your desktop will show the text “Evaluation Copy”. This does not mean that your system is no longer genuine but that you have installed a test version of software which is time-limited. The “Evaluation Copy” text will appear on your desktop after the second reboot after installing the service pack. Likewise, the “Evaluation Copy” text will remain on your desktop during the first reboot after uninstall the service pack, but will disappear after the next reboot. "


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Dec 2007 00:11    Post subject:
It works fine with oem boot loader hack. This hack is used in monthly BIE releases etc.


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 08:07    Post subject:
I have build 668 installed and so far, 1 issue. Fraps crashes if I attempt to record video. I've seen others report the same thing. Not sure if it affects everybody though. Could somebody try and see if it happens to them too?

I'm thinking of rolling it back and just installing the 2 recent compatibility and reliability updates to see if it happens then.

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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2008 13:00    Post subject:
The new copy protection enhancements are not in the current SP1 beta. They will be in the full one.
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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Jan 2008 02:10    Post subject:
I used the RC, it slugged my system in the face. Slower hard drive reads, and it enabled a bunch of services that are unnecessary. I'll probably be installing XP back onto my new box with SP3 in it because of the travesty that is vista Sp1.


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PostPosted: Sun, 6th Jan 2008 11:45    Post subject:
Phluxed wrote:
I used the RC, it slugged my system in the face. Slower hard drive reads, and it enabled a bunch of services that are unnecessary. I'll probably be installing XP back onto my new box with SP3 in it because of the travesty that is vista Sp1.


Yeah it's not very impressive. I couldn't notice the difference. After installing SP1 everything seemed the same. This really p*ssed me off Smile Vista was running really slowly, with my fast new processor taking longer to boot than my old machine running xp. Since then I resorted to the default services and re-tweaked the machine, seems I'd over-tweaked it. Leaving Superfetch on seemed to help too. If you can put up with the annoying hard-disk use it does wonders for boot time, browser launch time etc

Not happy with Vista just it's such a pain in the arse to go back to xp. If only xp had dx10..
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riahc3




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 02:20    Post subject:
So the official SP1 RC can be installed on non-genunie?

Sounds great. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jan 2008 02:48    Post subject:
riahc3 wrote:
So the official SP1 RC can be installed on non-genunie?

Sounds great. Smile


Have a look here Wink http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41413


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riahc3




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jan 2008 11:47    Post subject:
Mythril wrote:
riahc3 wrote:
So the official SP1 RC can be installed on non-genunie?

Sounds great. Smile


Have a look here Wink http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=41413

Yes I know this but maybe some has:
a) Released a fixed installer
b) Some workarounds do work

Which in case B, Id like to know which workarounds work Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jan 2008 14:49    Post subject:
With Vista SP1 RC Refresh 2 rolled out, hopefully SP1 final will be with us soon in early February Smile
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